Fault: Lemmings 2 Disk

Hungry Horace · 02 February 2008, 02:17

this might be caused by an unsupported IPF or something, or might just be a fault in the slave... dunno.

anyway, been playing Lemmings online tonight, using KG's pre-installed 2 disk version, and 3 times the game froze up... music carried on, but the lemmings stopped. (twice on level 2, once on level 4)

I dont think it's caused by winuae-kaillera, as it wasnt a lag-type error, and afterwards
oh no more lemmings was played for ages, and that was fine.

just thought i should mention it.

killergorilla · 02 February 2008, 02:34

How old is winuae-k?

Hungry Horace · 02 February 2008, 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

How old is winuae-k?

WinUAE 0.8.22, Release 1; Kaillera Client 0.9

token link to it for you. just thought it was odd since 'Oh no!' played fine. usually if something in incompatibile, it fails spectacularly, rather than like this.

killergorilla · 02 February 2008, 02:40

well there is pretty much 0 chance of me looking in to this then

Hungry Horace · 02 February 2008, 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

well there is pretty much 0 chance of me looking in to this then

only thing i could think you could do is use the verison i have, and / or test the 2 player mode on new winuae, see if it happens there. i will let you know if it happens on 1 disk version.

Hungry Horace · 05 February 2008, 00:54

this DID reoccur with the one disk version

i installed it with the JST and it hasnt happened at all. From reading JOTDs docs, it seems the protection is very strong - perhaps this is just a result of the slave needing some further tweeks? has anyone ever really tested the 2 player mode? it seems to occur almost every other level when the whdload slave is used.

Galahad/FLT · 05 February 2008, 10:22

You need to contact Psygore about the WHDLoad version.

Hungry Horace · 05 February 2008, 14:03

will do, but would like to sure its a slave not emulator / other fault first

19 December 2009, 06:41

This issue is still occurring. Exact same symptoms. The music continues but the graphics freeze up.

Using WHDload 16.9 and WinUAE 2.01 public beta 0 (2009.12.17)

rkauer · 20 September 2010, 02:01

Thread necromancy!

Same happens with all my HD-equipped Amigas: A500 (1+4Mb, WB2.1), A2000 (1+12Mb 030, OS3.9 or 3.1), A600 (2+1Mb, OS3.1) and A1200 (2+128Mb 060, OS3.9).

The game goes well and suddenly freezes on some point (level 8 up to 14), even on single player mode.

Updating JST will cure the problem?

Hungry Horace · 20 September 2010, 08:09

i still think a comparrison between the JST code and the WHD slave code would be a good idea (perhaps something is missed on the WHD)

Psygore · 26 November 2010, 17:57

Atm, the slave supports only 2 disks versions SPS #901,2089,2238 (it should work without any prob) and 1 disk version #270 (but protection check fails, versions #132,1977 too).
For info:
- '1 disk' version doesn't contain the special levels (awesome, beast1&2 and menace) data sound/gfx are removed.
- #2238 has 2 differents levels (ie. 'Something weighting on your mind?' instead of 'Walk to the web rope')

killergorilla · 16 December 2010, 13:48

Ah interesting info thanks...

Mick · 28 January 2011, 16:37

I can confirm this.

I am using the 2 disk version from whdownload I thought I would have a blast on fun mode... I had got to about the 10th level and it froze up solid with the music continuing and pressing F10 to exit worked.

I'm running an A1200 with Blizzard VI 64MB and a very basic WB3.1 install.

Is it because I didn't use original disks to install? I thought whdownload already did?

Thanks.

TCD · 28 January 2011, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick

Is it because I didn't use original disks to install? I thought whdownload already did?

If you downloaded from WHDownload.com then you don't need to install it yourself... in fact you can't. Anyway, it seems there is still a bug in the slave itself. Has WHDLoad created a crash dump?

StingRay · 28 January 2011, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick

Is it because I didn't use original disks to install?

It's because of a protection check, the slave doesn't support all versions of Lemmings, see Psygore's post above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Has WHDLoad created a crash dump?

Mick already answered that question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick

I had got to about the 10th level and it froze up solid with the music continuing and pressing F10 to exit worked

Which means: no.

Mick · 28 January 2011, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Anyway, it seems there is still a bug in the slave itself. Has WHDLoad created a crash dump?

Where would it be located? I can check just to be certain but I did exit normally.

Retro-Nerd · 28 January 2011, 18:20

Would be probably in c: by default, but only if whdload really crash.

Mick · 28 January 2011, 18:54

I can confirm that there is definitely nothing in c: and that's where I have WHDLoad installed to.

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02 February 2008, 02:17	#1
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	Fault: Lemmings 2 Disk this might be caused by an unsupported IPF or something, or might just be a fault in the slave... dunno. anyway, been playing Lemmings online tonight, using KG's pre-installed 2 disk version, and 3 times the game froze up... music carried on, but the lemmings stopped. (twice on level 2, once on level 4) I dont think it's caused by winuae-kaillera, as it wasnt a lag-type error, and afterwards oh no more lemmings was played for ages, and that was fine. just thought i should mention it.

02 February 2008, 02:34	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	How old is winuae-k?

02 February 2008, 02:40	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	well there is pretty much 0 chance of me looking in to this then

05 February 2008, 00:54	#6
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	this DID reoccur with the one disk version i installed it with the JST and it hasnt happened at all. From reading JOTDs docs, it seems the protection is very strong - perhaps this is just a result of the slave needing some further tweeks? has anyone ever really tested the 2 player mode? it seems to occur almost every other level when the whdload slave is used.

05 February 2008, 10:22	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	You need to contact Psygore about the WHDLoad version.

05 February 2008, 14:03	#8
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	will do, but would like to sure its a slave not emulator / other fault first

19 December 2009, 06:41	#9
prismra Posts: n/a	This issue is still occurring. Exact same symptoms. The music continues but the graphics freeze up. Using WHDload 16.9 and WinUAE 2.01 public beta 0 (2009.12.17)

20 September 2010, 02:01	#10
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Thread necromancy! Same happens with all my HD-equipped Amigas: A500 (1+4Mb, WB2.1), A2000 (1+12Mb 030, OS3.9 or 3.1), A600 (2+1Mb, OS3.1) and A1200 (2+128Mb 060, OS3.9). The game goes well and suddenly freezes on some point (level 8 up to 14), even on single player mode. Updating JST will cure the problem?

20 September 2010, 08:09	#11
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	i still think a comparrison between the JST code and the WHD slave code would be a good idea (perhaps something is missed on the WHD)

26 November 2010, 17:57	#12
Psygore Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: France Posts: 491	Atm, the slave supports only 2 disks versions SPS #901,2089,2238 (it should work without any prob) and 1 disk version #270 (but protection check fails, versions #132,1977 too). For info: - '1 disk' version doesn't contain the special levels (awesome, beast1&2 and menace) data sound/gfx are removed. - #2238 has 2 differents levels (ie. 'Something weighting on your mind?' instead of 'Walk to the web rope')

16 December 2010, 13:48	#13
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Ah interesting info thanks...

28 January 2011, 16:37	#14
Mick Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 710	I can confirm this. I am using the 2 disk version from whdownload I thought I would have a blast on fun mode... I had got to about the 10th level and it froze up solid with the music continuing and pressing F10 to exit worked. I'm running an A1200 with Blizzard VI 64MB and a very basic WB3.1 install. Is it because I didn't use original disks to install? I thought whdownload already did? Thanks.

28 January 2011, 18:20	#18
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Would be probably in c: by default, but only if whdload really crash.

28 January 2011, 18:54	#19
Mick Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 710	I can confirm that there is definitely nothing in c: and that's where I have WHDLoad installed to.

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