Backup Utility

fpmpaolo · 09 June 2016, 22:00

Hello people.
I recently set up my ClassicWB SD with a DH1 partition made of games.
I choose almost 200 WhdLoad games.
I'm looking for something that can create a backup of my DH1 without having to arc-extract all of them one by one.
What can I use?
Thanks

DamienD · 09 June 2016, 22:06

WinUAE and a PC (with SD card reader) possibly?

rare_j · 09 June 2016, 22:51

Where are you backing up the data to?
If your target device has enough space you could just image the whole partition using tsgui.

idrougge · 10 June 2016, 00:50

Copy CLONE ALL FROM dh1: TO somewhereelse:

fgh · 10 June 2016, 04:27

LHA a -aezrx archive.lha source_partition:

ma693541 · 10 June 2016, 09:59

@fgh, read first post closer!

fgh · 10 June 2016, 10:08

Ok, I've read it again, and I still think making an LHA archive is the best way to back up a whole partition

Without compression it's quick, too..

idrougge · 10 June 2016, 10:47

LhA is a bad idea since your memory will run out before the entire partition is compressed.

DrBong · 10 June 2016, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpmpaolo

I'm looking for something that can create a backup of my DH1 without having to arc-extract all of them one by one.
What can I use?

On Amiga, your best bet is probably Diavolo 2000. Good alternatives include BackUp, ABackup and Ami-Back.

Daedalus · 10 June 2016, 12:53

Another vote for BackUp, I use it to back up my drives to a network share. It doesn't do any compression, simply clones source files at the destination, and only copies files that are newer than the destination version.

idrougge · 10 June 2016, 16:04

Just make sure you're not using a version of Diavolo that misbehaves. I remember that it could detect that you were running a pirate copy and write junk instead of backing up your files.

idrougge · 10 June 2016, 16:04

Another alternative, fresh off Aminet: http://aminet.net/package/util/cli/FolderSync2

mark_k · 10 June 2016, 16:32

QuarterBack is another backup program to try.

mark_k · 10 June 2016, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Copy CLONE ALL FROM dh1: TO somewhereelse:

It's been a while, but... does Copy CLONE preserve directory datestamps and comments? I seem to remember that it didn't. Or maybe it was LhA with that problem, I forget.

daxb · 10 June 2016, 16:48

I would also recommend BackUp for several reasons. Compression is more or less obsolete and doesn`t make much sense for backup of Amiga partitions. At best it make it just worse.

daxb · 10 June 2016, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_k

It's been a while, but... does Copy CLONE preserve directory datestamps and comments? I seem to remember that it didn't.

Yes it does. That is the reason for CLONE. Without at least datestamps are overwritten.

fgh · 10 June 2016, 17:16

Keep in mind that not all files will be stored correctly on a windows file system. (a few illegal filenames and attributes)

Never run out of memory with lha so far, but I've used WinUAE with plenty of RAM and never done a huge games partition.
(I didn't suggest to actually compress anything. Perhaps it's easier on the RAM without compression?)

I make backups of system partitions with lha as described above, and whole CF/SD cards with WinUAE's imaging feature.

mark_k · 10 June 2016, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

Yes it does. That is the reason for CLONE. Without at least datestamps are overwritten.

Testing here on OS 3.1, Copy CLONE does not preserve directory comments.

Try this:
MakeDir Test Test/Directory1 Test/Directory2
FileNote Test/Directory1 "comment one"
FileNote Test/Directory2 "comment two"
Copy Test Test2 ALL CLONE
List Test
List Test2

daxb · 11 June 2016, 01:01

You are right. I never tried with directories and thought only to file comments. So if you want to preserve directory comments BackUp has another plus.

idrougge · 11 June 2016, 02:17

That's just amazing. What were Commodore thinking?

09 June 2016, 22:00	#1
fpmpaolo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Bologna / italy Age: 43 Posts: 135	Backup Utility Hello people. I recently set up my ClassicWB SD with a DH1 partition made of games. I choose almost 200 WhdLoad games. I'm looking for something that can create a backup of my DH1 without having to arc-extract all of them one by one. What can I use? Thanks

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10 June 2016, 00:50	#4
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	Copy CLONE ALL FROM dh1: TO somewhereelse:

10 June 2016, 04:27	#5
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 819	LHA a -aezrx archive.lha source_partition:

10 June 2016, 09:59	#6
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	@fgh, read first post closer!

10 June 2016, 10:08	#7
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 819	Ok, I've read it again, and I still think making an LHA archive is the best way to back up a whole partition Without compression it's quick, too..

10 June 2016, 10:47	#8
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	LhA is a bad idea since your memory will run out before the entire partition is compressed.

10 June 2016, 12:53	#10
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,343	Another vote for BackUp, I use it to back up my drives to a network share. It doesn't do any compression, simply clones source files at the destination, and only copies files that are newer than the destination version.

10 June 2016, 16:04	#11
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	Just make sure you're not using a version of Diavolo that misbehaves. I remember that it could detect that you were running a pirate copy and write junk instead of backing up your files.

10 June 2016, 16:32	#13
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,343	QuarterBack is another backup program to try.

10 June 2016, 16:48	#15
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	I would also recommend BackUp for several reasons. Compression is more or less obsolete and doesn`t make much sense for backup of Amiga partitions. At best it make it just worse.

10 June 2016, 17:16	#17
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 819	Keep in mind that not all files will be stored correctly on a windows file system. (a few illegal filenames and attributes) Never run out of memory with lha so far, but I've used WinUAE with plenty of RAM and never done a huge games partition. (I didn't suggest to actually compress anything. Perhaps it's easier on the RAM without compression?) I make backups of system partitions with lha as described above, and whole CF/SD cards with WinUAE's imaging feature.

11 June 2016, 01:01	#19
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	You are right. I never tried with directories and thought only to file comments. So if you want to preserve directory comments BackUp has another plus.

11 June 2016, 02:17	#20
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	That's just amazing. What were Commodore thinking?

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