The Best Way To Put CF Cards On Amiga 2000 Is?

Loedown · 01 January 2010, 13:59

Greetings,
I know that Amiga 1200 has support for CF solutions, but is there a way of doing the same with Amiga 2000? Perhaps some form of bridging card?

Paul

alexh · 01 January 2010, 14:19

Depends what you already own. If you have a SCSI controller and SCSI hard drives then it is an SCSI->IDE adapter (£20)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320460883629

If you have nothing then it is an Individual Computers Buddha IDE card (£45) (buddha flash Pheonix edition is the latest version)

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=486

Both will need a 40-pin IDE->CF adapter (£3) and probably the best to get is a panel one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=260525014377

alexh · 01 January 2010, 14:23

More and more people are having trouble with newer CF cards being incompatible with Amiga because they are "removable" not "fixed". Might be worth looking at an IDE->SDHC adapter

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=370310560921

Loedown · 01 January 2010, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Depends what you already own. If you have a SCSI controller and SCSI hard drives then it is an SCSI->IDE adapter (£20)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320460883629

If you have nothing then it is an Individual Computers Buddha IDE card (£45) (buddha flash Pheonix edition is the latest version)

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=486

Both will need a 40-pin IDE->CF adapter (£3) and probably the best to get is a panel one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=260525014377

I've fortunately got SCSI ---> IDE converters, so just paid for the IDE ---> CF adapter. I believe the Sandisk cards are best for Amiga, from what I've read?

Cheers Alexh, appreciate it.

Paul

alexh · 01 January 2010, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loedown

I believe the Sandisk cards are best for Amiga, from what I've read?

Depends which version. Probably better to pay a premium and buy from an Amiga shop who has pre-tested them or from another Amiga owner.

Photon · 01 January 2010, 17:05

I bet SanDisk Extreme III will work with anything, Extreme IV will have a slight performance edge but not much.

Extreme III's are actually available as SDHC, and is a top performer there too - the best cards have a write speed of 20+ MB/s.

"Changes to the interface of the established format have made some older devices designed for standard SD cards (≤4GB) unable to handle newer formats such as SDHC (≥4GB)." - well, since the adapter is specifically made to support SDHC, the only problem I see is that the disks start at 4GB and up, which might mess up some file systems on some kickstarts. They certainly seem interesting, those and SDXC cards

orange · 01 January 2010, 20:41

well the cheapest one would be 'tandem' :
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=532

you can get them very easily on ami/ebay
only problem is they don't do autoboot (autoconfig?) and i haven't tested them so I'm not sure they work 100% with cf but why not. also they might have problems with bigger drives. (but since 'driver' is not in hardware, maybe that can be solved i think).

people mostly used them for cdrom drives but who needs those now..

Chain · 01 January 2010, 23:06

they works with cf
ive personally tested it with "bracketed" cf adapter and sandisk CF, in A2000
be sure to use oktopussy driver

Impakt · 02 January 2010, 01:40

this is a good read, as i'm thinking of having some sort of CF slot on my amiga 2000 as well. At the moment I'm burning CD-RW discs when i want to transfer files over, much easier to replace the SCSI hard drive with a CF card

alexh · 02 January 2010, 02:31

Or add to it. SCSI can take more than 1 device. No need to remove old hard drive except to lower heat and noise.

Impakt · 02 January 2010, 03:29

yeah but heat and noise are good enough reasons if you ask me. No point keeping the HD in there because one day it will die.

Does any SCSI-IDE converter work or should i invest in the one you linked to as it obviously already works with the GVP cards.

Loedown · 02 January 2010, 05:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impakt

yeah but heat and noise are good enough reasons if you ask me. No point keeping the HD in there because one day it will die.

Does any SCSI-IDE converter work or should i invest in the one you linked to as it obviously already works with the GVP cards.

SCSI to IDE cards work very well, I have two of them and they just plug in, you set some jumpers for SCSI device and terminators, that's it

Paul

Impakt · 02 January 2010, 05:56

looks like i'll be replacing the HD with a CD-IDE panel mount adapter, and an IDE-SCSI adapter.

alexh · 02 January 2010, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impakt

No point keeping the HD in there because one day it will die.

Same argument works for CF cards. I was just noting that SCSI supports multiple devices.

Acard AEC-7720U definitely works.

Chain · 02 January 2010, 18:29

just another my 2c. Acard AEC-7720U + IDE>CF bracket adapter fits perfectly together and hangs on that bracket. I dont have photo but i was surprise during installlation. It seems to be BUILD for A2000

Loedown · 03 January 2010, 03:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

just another my 2c. Acard AEC-7720U + IDE>CF bracket adapter fits perfectly together and hangs on that bracket. I dont have photo but i was surprise during installlation. It seems to be BUILD for A2000

Precisely what I have, shall I take a picture when the brackets arrive?

Paul

Chain · 03 January 2010, 11:37

sure thing! Im too lazy to dismantling it just for picture

Loedown · 14 January 2010, 12:13

Greetings,
Got the last of the molex to 3.5 floppy adapters today so I could fit the CF card to the A2000, an absolute breeze.

Huge thumbs up to Alexh for setting me straight on all things CF, cheers

Paul

Chain · 19 January 2010, 21:30

and dont forget the pics please

Loedown · 20 January 2010, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

and dont forget the pics please

I've just this morning bought 3 metres of 50 way IDC cable, I've simply got to transfer the old HDD to CF, then fit it all, so no, I haven't forgotten

Paul

01 January 2010, 13:59	#1
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	The Best Way To Put CF Cards On Amiga 2000 Is? Greetings, I know that Amiga 1200 has support for CF solutions, but is there a way of doing the same with Amiga 2000? Perhaps some form of bridging card? Paul

01 January 2010, 14:23	#3
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	More and more people are having trouble with newer CF cards being incompatible with Amiga because they are "removable" not "fixed". Might be worth looking at an IDE->SDHC adapter http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=370310560921 Last edited by alexh; 01 January 2010 at 15:34.

02 January 2010, 18:29	#15
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	just another my 2c. Acard AEC-7720U + IDE>CF bracket adapter fits perfectly together and hangs on that bracket. I dont have photo but i was surprise during installlation. It seems to be BUILD for A2000 Last edited by Chain; 02 January 2010 at 18:30. Reason: typo, still left some for purists .)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Is there a way to put amiga games onto the cd32?	raditz669	New to Emulation or Amiga scene	20	12 June 2009 08:46
Be careful where you put your WTD: CDTV Amiga	alexh	MarketPlace	21	15 August 2008 22:32
Addon cards for the Amiga 2000	Unknown_K	Retrogaming General Discussion	1	27 November 2005 03:22
Graphics cards, can I put an ECS in an A500?	Sky_Shadow	support.Hardware	10	02 September 2005 03:38
Put Amiga infront of something and it costs more!	Smiley	MarketPlace	12	14 March 2005 04:10

01 January 2010, 14:19	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Depends what you already own. If you have a SCSI controller and SCSI hard drives then it is an SCSI->IDE adapter (£20) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320460883629 If you have nothing then it is an Individual Computers Buddha IDE card (£45) (buddha flash Pheonix edition is the latest version) http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=486 Both will need a 40-pin IDE->CF adapter (£3) and probably the best to get is a panel one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=260525014377

01 January 2010, 17:05	#6
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	I bet SanDisk Extreme III will work with anything, Extreme IV will have a slight performance edge but not much. Extreme III's are actually available as SDHC, and is a top performer there too - the best cards have a write speed of 20+ MB/s. "Changes to the interface of the established format have made some older devices designed for standard SD cards (≤4GB) unable to handle newer formats such as SDHC (≥4GB)." - well, since the adapter is specifically made to support SDHC, the only problem I see is that the disks start at 4GB and up, which might mess up some file systems on some kickstarts. They certainly seem interesting, those and SDXC cards

01 January 2010, 20:41	#7
orange Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Belgrade Posts: 567	well the cheapest one would be 'tandem' : http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=532 you can get them very easily on ami/ebay only problem is they don't do autoboot (autoconfig?) and i haven't tested them so I'm not sure they work 100% with cf but why not. also they might have problems with bigger drives. (but since 'driver' is not in hardware, maybe that can be solved i think). people mostly used them for cdrom drives but who needs those now..

01 January 2010, 23:06	#8
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	they works with cf ive personally tested it with "bracketed" cf adapter and sandisk CF, in A2000 be sure to use oktopussy driver

02 January 2010, 01:40	#9
Impakt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 54	this is a good read, as i'm thinking of having some sort of CF slot on my amiga 2000 as well. At the moment I'm burning CD-RW discs when i want to transfer files over, much easier to replace the SCSI hard drive with a CF card

02 January 2010, 02:31	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Or add to it. SCSI can take more than 1 device. No need to remove old hard drive except to lower heat and noise.

02 January 2010, 03:29	#11
Impakt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 54	yeah but heat and noise are good enough reasons if you ask me. No point keeping the HD in there because one day it will die. Does any SCSI-IDE converter work or should i invest in the one you linked to as it obviously already works with the GVP cards.

02 January 2010, 05:56	#13
Impakt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 54	looks like i'll be replacing the HD with a CD-IDE panel mount adapter, and an IDE-SCSI adapter.

03 January 2010, 11:37	#17
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	sure thing! Im too lazy to dismantling it just for picture

14 January 2010, 12:13	#18
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	Greetings, Got the last of the molex to 3.5 floppy adapters today so I could fit the CF card to the A2000, an absolute breeze. Huge thumbs up to Alexh for setting me straight on all things CF, cheers Paul

19 January 2010, 21:30	#19
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	and dont forget the pics please

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)