AmigaOS 3.2 and beyond

[duga]

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

No,.. Therefore the driver must be in ROM, which is not

Luckily, A600 & A1200 can handle 1 MB ROMs (and 2MB too) if boot from PCMCIA is wanted in a future release beyond 3.2.

[Daedalus]

Well, booting from PCMCIA is a possibility. Booting from one of those cheap CF card adaptors is not. With some funky hardware you could boot a small, minimal system that loads the drivers needed and passes control over to the inserted CF card. I'm sure there was an external hard drive that worked that way in the past... But it would be much cheaper and easier to burn a custom ROM with the necessary drivers.

[Mikerochip]

external hhd and external cdrom

[lmimmfn]

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Well, booting from PCMCIA is a possibility. Booting from one of those cheap CF card adaptors is not. With some funky hardware you could boot a small, minimal system that loads the drivers needed and passes control over to the inserted CF card. I'm sure there was an external hard drive that worked that way in the past... But it would be much cheaper and easier to burn a custom ROM with the necessary drivers.

This is my thinking also, but people burning custom roms is basically sayibg it should be in the OS.
Really at this stage the possibility should be in the rom.

[ancalimon]

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

I'm not so foolish to give a release date at this time, and to make announcements of things that are not yet working to my full satisfaction. Things will be ready when they are ready. However, to give you a tentative estimate, a release this year is highly likely.

To make another announcement of things that are in a state "ready enough to make an announcement", we will have a CVisionPPC driver as well. However, the chip the cvision is based on lacks a necessary hardware feature to support screen dragging. Thus, no screen dragging support for this card, sorry.

[AC/DC HACKER!]

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

I'm not so foolish to give a release date at this time, and to make announcements of things that are not yet working to my full satisfaction. Things will be ready when they are ready. However, to give you a tentative estimate, a release this year is highly likely.

To make another announcement of things that are in a state "ready enough to make an announcement", we will have a CVisionPPC driver as well. However, the chip the cvision is based on lacks a necessary hardware feature to support screen dragging. Thus, no screen dragging support for this card, sorry.

So, some time in rest of 2020 is highly likely. Sweet!


I primarily use the CVisionPPC for games. Sometimes using the Workbench for 3D displays. Mostly I use Picasso 4..screen dragging works great there, so I'm not concerned CVisionPPC won't support it. Having it functional to use P96 only vs swapping..is excellent news. I made 2 scripts to <-> P96 (newer) and CGX4.


Soooo...

[ancalimon]

Originally Posted by AC/DC HACKER!

So, some time in rest of 2020 is highly likely. Sweet!


I primarily use the CVisionPPC for games. Sometimes using the Workbench for 3D displays. Mostly I use Picasso 4..screen dragging works great there, so I'm not concerned CVisionPPC won't support it. Having it functional to use P96 only vs swapping..is excellent news. I made 2 scripts to <-> P96 (newer) and CGX4.


Soooo...

I dont care about 3d games at all on classics. Just having it run at least as fast and compatible with the new intuition would be enough.

[Rotzloeffel]

Originally Posted by ancalimon

I dont care about 3d games at all on classics. Just having it run at least as fast and compatible with the new intuition would be enough.

This works perfect actually

[ancalimon]

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

This works perfect actually

If someone really wants to play an old game, he can always create a script that converts things to cgx4 and exchanges new intuition with the old old one and and cold reboot... And vice versa.

[matt3k]

Thanks for all the hardwork to the 3.2 team!

I have a few suggestions:
1. Incorporate TLSFMEM into the memory handling.
2. Incorporate Executive like multitasking, under heavy loads it runs much better than round robin.
3. Features like visual prefs for tweaking the gui.
4. Incorporate a network stack into it.
5. Incorporate PFS3 into it.
6. Anything to make a quick process for getting a blank Amiga up and going.

[gulliver]

AmigaOS 3.2 status update:

The past few months have been critical towards putting all AmigaOS 3.2 components together and properly integrating them to get them to be ready for a release distributable format, which is no small feat by itself.

During that period, we have also hunted and bugfixed literally hundreds of issues. Many of them which came from all the new features we have
implemented, but as you may well have guessed by now, also many others that have been lurking in the shadows for decades. Suffice to say, this has been an arduous job for all of us.

We are currently at our last stretch towards a release. The bug count is now pretty low, but those few bugs remaining still need to be
addressed and are probably the most difficult ones to deal with.

So when we are asked: When will AmigaOS 3.2 be released?
There is no way we could tangibly measure this, I am afraid. And this is because it is subject mostly to solving those few remaining bugs.

By the way, no spoilers: features will be announced only when 3.2 is out.

We are all truly proud of the work we have done so far, and we are
sure Amiga fans will be more than pleased with the outcome.

Stay tuned, AmigaOS 3.2 is just around the corner!

Now which corner is that? Well, that is a good question.

[Tigerskunk]

Sounds amazing. Thanks for the great work, guys and girls..

[mrprawns]

Wowee

Is there any tentative feature list yet or is it top secret at this time?

[LoadWB]

Originally Posted by mrprawns

Wowee

Is there any tentative feature list yet or is it top secret at this time?

Dude.

Originally Posted by gulliver

AmigaOS 3.2 status update:

(snip)

By the way, no spoilers: features will be announced only when 3.2 is out.

[AC/DC HACKER!]

Originally Posted by ancalimon

I dont care about 3d games at all on classics. Just having it run at least as fast and compatible with the new intuition would be enough.

I'm not only interested in 3D games. So that's not my only reason for excitement.

Originally Posted by ancalimon

If someone really wants to play an old game, he can always create a script that converts things to cgx4 and exchanges new intuition with the old old one and and cold reboot... And vice versa.

I already created scripts to switch between P96 and CGX4. I'd rather only use 1. I've been more of a fan of P96 though, so...great news to me.

Originally Posted by gulliver

AmigaOS 3.2 status update:

Exxxxcelllllent!!

[Rotzloeffel]

Originally Posted by AC/DC HACKER!

I already created scripts to switch between P96 and CGX4. I'd rather only use 1. I've been more of a fan of P96 though, so...great news to me.

With Picasso96 3.0 you can soon use Cybervision PPC and Warp3D. It will be released soon

[malko]

@gulliver & dev-team: thanks for this excellent news and the work done so far on the OS improvement !

[AC/DC HACKER!]

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

With Picasso96 3.0 you can soon use Cybervision PPC and Warp3D. It will be released soon

Yup! That's what I read from Thomas also. Very excited about that. I won't be switching to CGX4 anymore if it goes well (Thor is very good..so..). My Picasso 4 and AGA handle moving stuff off screen well, so I'm fine with CVPPC not doing that.


I'd love to see WinUAE have Warp3D with actual 3D hardware emulation but until then...my A4K will be happy, as if that's possible for machine. Ha, ha!!

[duga]

Is CD-ROM the chosen physical release format?

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

With Picasso96 3.0 you can soon use Cybervision PPC and Warp3D. It will be released soon

"P96" surely ;-)
And is it Thomas R co-developing that one too for iComp?