Is it possible to port fmsx 6.0 to Amiga 68k?

xboxown · 06 April 2021, 02:39

Putting aside performance, is it possible technically to port fmsx 6.0 to Amiga 68k, even if it is runs at 5 fps? Forget the question, "Why? What is the point?" or other negative remarks. I just want to know the technicality part. Is it possible to fMSX 6.0 to Amiga 68k?

Thanks in advance.

stevelord · 07 April 2021, 21:36

Yes. There's code for 2.4a. You should probably start by getting that to compile, then hitting 6 with hammers till it works. I wouldn't expect it to be easy though.

I notice 2.4 used SAS-C and DevPac. That might not work so well with 6 and you might need a more modern compiler.

xboxown · 08 April 2021, 07:22

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Originally Posted by stevelord

Yes. There's code for 2.4a. You should probably start by getting that to compile, then hitting 6 with hammers till it works. I wouldn't expect it to be easy though.

I notice 2.4 used SAS-C and DevPac. That might not work so well with 6 and you might need a more modern compiler.

What about 4 or 3.8 or the most possible latest FMSX that can be ported to Amiga 68k?

stevelord · 08 April 2021, 17:19

6 Can be ported. It'd just be a lot of work. Older versions may or may not require less work.

Thorham · 08 April 2021, 19:24

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Originally Posted by xboxown

I just want to know the technicality part.

Technically it's possible to port anything to 68k. Anything. Literally. Same goes for just about every other CPU ever made.

xboxown · 09 April 2021, 21:42

So what it takes to have it a ported? A petition?

coldacid · 09 April 2021, 21:49

Someone to actually do the work and maintain it, I would assume. For most projects that means whoever suggests it either volunteers or it doesn't happen.

Retro1234 · 09 April 2021, 22:09

why not just use AmiMsx.

Thorham · 09 April 2021, 23:18

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Originally Posted by xboxown

So what it takes to have it a ported?

There has to be a point. If it won't ever run fast enough to be usable, then it ain't gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Retro1234

why not just use AmiMsx.

+1

NovaCoder · 10 April 2021, 11:32

As someone who spent many hours porting DOSBox to 68k, of course it is possible but not much point.

meynaf · 10 April 2021, 12:14

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Originally Posted by xboxown

So what it takes to have it a ported? A petition?

Like everything else it is a matter of motivation.
A petition would not work.

A huge donation could, though

(this is where ppl asking for the moon suddenly disappear overnight)

xboxown · 10 April 2021, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Retro1234

why not just use AmiMsx.

Lack of game compatibility. I purchased two new games for MSX and both failed to run on AmiMSX.

fMSX 3.x worked with one game but not the other. I had hoped that if at least fmsx 4.0 get ported, it will open more doors for game compatibly that it is enough for all games to run. That was my original intention, you see? But it seems for some games I have no choice but to use blueMSX in windows to run it. To be honest, I would have preferred it on Amiga more.

xboxown · 10 April 2021, 21:01

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Originally Posted by meynaf

Like everything else it is a matter of motivation.
A petition would not work.

A huge donation could, though

(this is where ppl asking for the moon suddenly disappear overnight)

I am ok to donate. But if it is something outside my scope of budget, I may have to pay in sums if that person agrees to that term. As you can see, I am but an average Joe here.

meynaf · 12 April 2021, 08:25

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Originally Posted by xboxown

I am ok to donate. But if it is something outside my scope of budget, I may have to pay in sums if that person agrees to that term. As you can see, I am but an average Joe here.

That may well be outside your scope of budget, at least, if you're alone donating.

xboxown · 12 April 2021, 21:53

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Originally Posted by meynaf

That may well be outside your scope of budget, at least, if you're alone donating.

If I was expected to pay in full, sure. But if agreed in chunks I can do as much as I can do.

NovaCoder · 14 April 2021, 02:48

Why do you think this port would work out any better than DOSBox? I assume it would be just as demanding?

Even after spending many hours optimizing DOSBox it is still (almost) useless on an overclocked 060, you can play some old 286 games maybe but that's about it.

Bruce Abbott · 15 April 2021, 15:54

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Originally Posted by xboxown

I purchased two new games for MSX and both failed to run on AmiMSX.

Which games? In what way did they 'fail to run'?

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it seems for some games I have no choice but to use blueMSX in windows to run it.

You can't run them on a real MSX computer?

haps · 15 April 2021, 16:08

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Originally Posted by xboxown

But it seems for some games I have no choice but to use blueMSX in windows to run it. To be honest, I would have preferred it on Amiga more.

That makes no sense. That is like the next time I have to pull an engine out of one my cars I might use a block and tackle instead of my engine hoist. Use the tool that works not the one you can 'force' to work.

ma693541 · 15 April 2021, 16:23

The easy part to donate and get donations to this project is to set up different pledge levels on Kickstarter.

xboxown · 15 April 2021, 20:01

And that is the hostile and negative energy that eab forum that is so famous about. Each person here is trying to convince me it is a futile and useless attempt. 060? Everyone forgot Vampire and AMMX technology. We are having games that run on PSX ported to v4 and runs at alarming speed.

You think optimizing and porting fmsx 6.0 would be bad as dosbox? Speaking of dosbox, I tried dosbox 0.74 rtg...it is not bad. It is playable speed...all optimization

Can we move away from old 030-060 and focus in new hardware Amiga?

06 April 2021, 02:39	#1
xboxown Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Vancouver/Canada Posts: 675	Is it possible to port fmsx 6.0 to Amiga 68k? Putting aside performance, is it possible technically to port fmsx 6.0 to Amiga 68k, even if it is runs at 5 fps? Forget the question, "Why? What is the point?" or other negative remarks. I just want to know the technicality part. Is it possible to fMSX 6.0 to Amiga 68k? Thanks in advance.

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07 April 2021, 21:36	#2
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	Yes. There's code for 2.4a. You should probably start by getting that to compile, then hitting 6 with hammers till it works. I wouldn't expect it to be easy though. I notice 2.4 used SAS-C and DevPac. That might not work so well with 6 and you might need a more modern compiler.

08 April 2021, 17:19	#4
stevelord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: UK Posts: 540	6 Can be ported. It'd just be a lot of work. Older versions may or may not require less work.

09 April 2021, 21:42	#6
xboxown Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Vancouver/Canada Posts: 675	So what it takes to have it a ported? A petition?

09 April 2021, 21:49	#7
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	Someone to actually do the work and maintain it, I would assume. For most projects that means whoever suggests it either volunteers or it doesn't happen.

09 April 2021, 22:09	#8
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	why not just use AmiMsx.

10 April 2021, 11:32	#10
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	As someone who spent many hours porting DOSBox to 68k, of course it is possible but not much point.

14 April 2021, 02:48	#16
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	Why do you think this port would work out any better than DOSBox? I assume it would be just as demanding? Even after spending many hours optimizing DOSBox it is still (almost) useless on an overclocked 060, you can play some old 286 games maybe but that's about it.

15 April 2021, 16:23	#19
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	The easy part to donate and get donations to this project is to set up different pledge levels on Kickstarter.

15 April 2021, 20:01	#20
xboxown Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Vancouver/Canada Posts: 675	And that is the hostile and negative energy that eab forum that is so famous about. Each person here is trying to convince me it is a futile and useless attempt. 060? Everyone forgot Vampire and AMMX technology. We are having games that run on PSX ported to v4 and runs at alarming speed. You think optimizing and porting fmsx 6.0 would be bad as dosbox? Speaking of dosbox, I tried dosbox 0.74 rtg...it is not bad. It is playable speed...all optimization Can we move away from old 030-060 and focus in new hardware Amiga?

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