What is fastest image viewer for Amiga classic

nikosidis · 21 May 2020, 16:15

I use original OS3.1. Amiga 1200, AGA, 030/FPU.
I tried to install warpDT but it require later version of picture.datatype etc.

That fastest I could find was VPNG. I liked the way to program found the best screenmode for AGA to display the pictures. I would like to know from the experts about other good picture viewer options. Jpeg is very slow on my 030 but I prefer PDF anyway.

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drHirudo · 21 May 2020, 16:22

For many years I used Visage:

https://aminet.net/gfx/show/Visage.lha

It is very fast and displays JPG pictures on AGA very nice.

PeterK · 21 May 2020, 16:25

You can also try Meynaf's fast picture viewer (but no PDF support yet):

http://meynaf.free.fr/pr/index_en.html

nikosidis · 21 May 2020, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by drHirudo

For many years I used Visage:

https://aminet.net/gfx/show/Visage.lha

It is very fast and displays JPG pictures on AGA very nice.

Yes, thank you

PNG was much faster with VPNG but for JPG it is the fastest I tried

nikosidis · 21 May 2020, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

You can also try Meynaf's fast picture viewer (but no PDF support yet):

http://meynaf.free.fr/pr/index_en.html

Stupid me. It was not PDF but PNG

I tried it and it is very nice

As fast as the one from Aminet but more compatible. Thank you.

edit: I donated 10Euro to him. Great program.

PeterK · 21 May 2020, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

Stupid me. It was not PDF but PNG

Ah, now I've got it.

Quote:

edit: I donated 10Euro to him. Great program.

... and no commission?

nikosidis · 21 May 2020, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

Ah, now I've got it.

... and no commission?

Haha

Ask Meynaf

meynaf · 21 May 2020, 20:25

If by commission you mean paypal took its fee, then i can tell you i only got 9,36Euro...
(but thanks !

)

PDF support isn't planned because it's a text format, not a picture format

Else, PNG is supported and is as fast as VPNG (actually even faster for 24-bit images because my HAM8 renderer is hard to beat

). At least, last time i've checked it was.

For JPEG it should be faster than Visage. It can eventually, however, reject files that don't respect the spec. It is also probably too verbose about unused blocks, corrupt data, or whatever warnings it can find.

It's been some time i didn't touch this program and i admit it was originally designed only for my own usage. I guess that i could come back to it if there is enough interest (but don't ask me for jpeg2000 support, urgh !).

nikosidis · 21 May 2020, 22:39

Hi Meynaf

Thank you for the program. I enjoy it a lot. As you said I get some error messages with some Jpeg files but they are still displayed when using shell. You should upload the program to Aminet. That way lot's more will see and use it.

nikosidis · 22 May 2020, 00:34

It is not error messages but with .jpg I mostly get this message. Marqueur AAP1 non supporte, Marqueur APP2 non supporte. Then the prog. display the picture as normal.

Misclegend · 22 May 2020, 03:13

fastview is very fast
http://aminet.net/gfx/show/fastview.lha

meynaf · 22 May 2020, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

It is not error messages but with .jpg I mostly get this message. Marqueur AAP1 non supporte, Marqueur APP2 non supporte. Then the prog. display the picture as normal.

There are often strange things in jpeg files. A lot of software inserts markers which are supposed to be reserved/unused.
You can use the "quiet" option from the command line to switch these warnings off.

nikosidis · 22 May 2020, 10:50

Meynaf: Ok, thanks

Will do.

PeterK · 22 May 2020, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

If by commission you mean paypal took its fee, then i can tell you i only got 9,36Euro...
(but thanks !

)

No, I have no PayPal account, that was just a joke.

Some years ago, I once used a PayPal guest account to make a donation to EAB, but then I got such a lot of PayPal Spam that I would never do it again.

nikosidis · 22 May 2020, 11:58

There are some .jpeg files where I get "No composante inattendu". They will not display. Fail returncode 20.
How can V be so much faster than anything else? What is the magic. Does the program use FPU?

meynaf · 22 May 2020, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

There are some .jpeg files where I get "No composante inattendu". They will not display. Fail returncode 20.

Yeah, sorry. Normally a file contains ID for each component (Y, Cb, Cr) which are supposed to be 1,2,3. But sometimes completely bogus values are here and i don't know how to handle them...
As i told earlier, it sometimes rejects files that don't respect the spec.
I guess i could do a fix nevertheless. Can you provide me such files ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

How can V be so much faster than anything else? What is the magic. Does the program use FPU?

No, it does not make use of the FPU.
The magic is this : it's written in 100% asm.

nikosidis · 22 May 2020, 19:48

Meynaf: Yes, of cause

Thx for looking into it. https://filebin.net/1dtc62bsk0yyrxtw

meynaf · 22 May 2020, 20:17

Seems this was already fixed in current version i'm using. I just forgot to release it.
Now done. New version available in same place as before.

If you find other images that don't work, shoot again

nikosidis · 22 May 2020, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Seems this was already fixed in current version i'm using. I just forgot to release it.
Now done. New version available in same place as before.

If you find other images that don't work, shoot again

That is fantastic Meynaf

Thanks a lot

DamienD · 31 May 2020, 14:45

Heya meynaf,

Been playing around with your picture viewer... really fast when I compared it with Visage

2 x suggestions if I may, that would make it perfect:

1) ability to load more than one file.
2) ability to add a delay for skipping to the next file (needs above implemented first).

21 May 2020, 16:15	#1
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	What is fastest image viewer for Amiga classic I use original OS3.1. Amiga 1200, AGA, 030/FPU. I tried to install warpDT but it require later version of picture.datatype etc. That fastest I could find was VPNG. I liked the way to program found the best screenmode for AGA to display the pictures. I would like to know from the experts about other good picture viewer options. Jpeg is very slow on my 030 but I prefer PDF anyway. [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by nikosidis; 21 May 2020 at 16:43.

21 May 2020, 22:39	#9
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	Hi Meynaf Thank you for the program. I enjoy it a lot. As you said I get some error messages with some Jpeg files but they are still displayed when using shell. You should upload the program to Aminet. That way lot's more will see and use it. Last edited by nikosidis; 22 May 2020 at 00:21.

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21 May 2020, 16:22	#2
drHirudo Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sofia / Bulgaria Posts: 463	For many years I used Visage: https://aminet.net/gfx/show/Visage.lha It is very fast and displays JPG pictures on AGA very nice.

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PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,378	You can also try Meynaf's fast picture viewer (but no PDF support yet): http://meynaf.free.fr/pr/index_en.html

21 May 2020, 20:25	#8
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,335	If by commission you mean paypal took its fee, then i can tell you i only got 9,36Euro... (but thanks ! ) PDF support isn't planned because it's a text format, not a picture format Else, PNG is supported and is as fast as VPNG (actually even faster for 24-bit images because my HAM8 renderer is hard to beat ). At least, last time i've checked it was. For JPEG it should be faster than Visage. It can eventually, however, reject files that don't respect the spec. It is also probably too verbose about unused blocks, corrupt data, or whatever warnings it can find. It's been some time i didn't touch this program and i admit it was originally designed only for my own usage. I guess that i could come back to it if there is enough interest (but don't ask me for jpeg2000 support, urgh !).

22 May 2020, 00:34	#10
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	It is not error messages but with .jpg I mostly get this message. Marqueur AAP1 non supporte, Marqueur APP2 non supporte. Then the prog. display the picture as normal.

22 May 2020, 03:13	#11
Misclegend Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Uranus Posts: 193	fastview is very fast http://aminet.net/gfx/show/fastview.lha

22 May 2020, 10:50	#13
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	Meynaf: Ok, thanks Will do.

22 May 2020, 11:58	#15
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	There are some .jpeg files where I get "No composante inattendu". They will not display. Fail returncode 20. How can V be so much faster than anything else? What is the magic. Does the program use FPU?

22 May 2020, 19:48	#17
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,609	Meynaf: Yes, of cause Thx for looking into it. https://filebin.net/1dtc62bsk0yyrxtw

22 May 2020, 20:17	#18
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,335	Seems this was already fixed in current version i'm using. I just forgot to release it. Now done. New version available in same place as before. If you find other images that don't work, shoot again

31 May 2020, 14:45	#20
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Heya meynaf, Been playing around with your picture viewer... really fast when I compared it with Visage 2 x suggestions if I may, that would make it perfect: 1) ability to load more than one file. 2) ability to add a delay for skipping to the next file (needs above implemented first).

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