Stones n bones in Pinball fantasies problem

Kristian95 · 10 May 2008, 18:46

I just played the Stones n Bones table in Pinball fantasies and it works like a charm.... until I had the kickback enabled and a ball ended there... then nothing happened, the ball never got kicked back

My system is still an A4000T 060...

Graham Humphrey · 10 May 2008, 18:47

It is a bugged table I think so that could well be a problem with the game rather than the WHDLoad slave. Not certain on that though.

Kristian95 · 10 May 2008, 20:51

ah ok.... I know that back in the "good old days" when I played the floppy version the kickback thing worked.
Now that my A4000T is up and running I'll pop by every time I find something not working the way it should hehehe

Kristian95 · 10 May 2008, 21:48

I just tried the Party Land table in Pinball fantasies too and that has the same problem, when a ball is in a "kick back like" situation the game just stalls... the music and all works the ball is just never released again.

Graham Humphrey · 10 May 2008, 22:58

Er, okay, that a bit odd, actually... never had any problems like this on my '040 though so I just assumed it was a bug in a game (and there are a few)...

Hopefully someone can confirm what the problem is...?

mailman · 10 May 2008, 22:58

ECS version is totally unplayable on my configuration (BPPC 040). From floppies it is not working at all. I used WHDLoad version from Killergorilla's site. The music in menu was too fast but I gave it a try. When I launched the ball the screen slowed down and speeded up randomly so it was hard to aim at anything. When hitting targets or ramps no scores were added. I tried with NOCACHE tooltype. The music was OK, the game seemed to be OK also (scores were running) but when I shot the ball in any lock it wasn't left free...

This is what I wrote in other thread about Pinball Fantasies...

musashi5150 · 10 May 2008, 23:23

This 'ball lock' problem also occurs in the GBA version... much to my frustration

It doesn't happen very often though.

Kristian95 · 11 May 2008, 03:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

ECS version is totally unplayable on my configuration (BPPC 040). From floppies it is not working at all. I used WHDLoad version from Killergorilla's site. The music in menu was too fast but I gave it a try. When I launched the ball the screen slowed down and speeded up randomly so it was hard to aim at anything. When hitting targets or ramps no scores were added. I tried with NOCACHE tooltype. The music was OK, the game seemed to be OK also (scores were running) but when I shot the ball in any lock it wasn't left free...

This is what I wrote in other thread about Pinball Fantasies...

The thing is my game runs perfectly well, music and speed, until the ball gets locked

Btw, I am pretty sure it is the AGA version I have on my hd... it's from KG's pack.

mailman · 11 May 2008, 11:23

In my case AGA version works flawlessly

Graham Humphrey · 11 May 2008, 12:00

You could try the CD32 version. It's the one I use, it's a bit of a long shot though, admittedly.

Kristian95 · 11 May 2008, 19:26

I'll take a look into it again... maybe even re-download the game from KG's site

Kristian95 · 11 May 2008, 20:30

Strange! I just tried installing the Chip only AGA version and replicated the no score counted bug... adding NOCACHE to that only made it worse (slow downs). I then deleted the install and tried the regular AGA version (not the CD32 one) and suddently it all works perfectly fine... oh well, I'm just happy it works... now I need a lot of practice on "Stones n Bones" hehehe

pintcat · 16 November 2009, 06:49

I recently found out that the ChipOnly version seems to be extremely buggy (all the stuff that was mentioned before plus some more). I'm one of those poor people with that FastRAM problem and so I was forced to use the ChipOnly slave. I got rid of this problem by allocating the memory blocks $7f000000-7ff7ffff with a small tool from aminet. Now that I'm able to use the AGA slave, the game appears to work fine again.

jotd · 04 December 2020, 23:13

I just noticed that users using A4000 kickstart 3.1 in DEVS:kickstart will have issues too. FastMem slave only works with A1200 kickstart. Kristian95 who reported that back in 2008 is a A4000 owner so probably was using A4000 kick for whdload (and probably NOMMU or it would have crashed to wb with access fault)

I just fixed that in the to-be-released version of the slave. To add to the confusion, the version of the slave where it works will be ... 3.1

Sorry for the inconvenience but the fastmem patch was released on 15.12.2002 so even in 2008 this was old to me... Another mystery fixed probably.

10 May 2008, 18:46	#1
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Stones n bones in Pinball fantasies problem I just played the Stones n Bones table in Pinball fantasies and it works like a charm.... until I had the kickback enabled and a ball ended there... then nothing happened, the ball never got kicked back My system is still an A4000T 060...

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10 May 2008, 18:47	#2
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	It is a bugged table I think so that could well be a problem with the game rather than the WHDLoad slave. Not certain on that though.

10 May 2008, 20:51	#3
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	ah ok.... I know that back in the "good old days" when I played the floppy version the kickback thing worked. Now that my A4000T is up and running I'll pop by every time I find something not working the way it should hehehe

10 May 2008, 21:48	#4
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	I just tried the Party Land table in Pinball fantasies too and that has the same problem, when a ball is in a "kick back like" situation the game just stalls... the music and all works the ball is just never released again.

10 May 2008, 22:58	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Er, okay, that a bit odd, actually... never had any problems like this on my '040 though so I just assumed it was a bug in a game (and there are a few)... Hopefully someone can confirm what the problem is...?

10 May 2008, 22:58	#6
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 2,428	ECS version is totally unplayable on my configuration (BPPC 040). From floppies it is not working at all. I used WHDLoad version from Killergorilla's site. The music in menu was too fast but I gave it a try. When I launched the ball the screen slowed down and speeded up randomly so it was hard to aim at anything. When hitting targets or ramps no scores were added. I tried with NOCACHE tooltype. The music was OK, the game seemed to be OK also (scores were running) but when I shot the ball in any lock it wasn't left free... This is what I wrote in other thread about Pinball Fantasies...

10 May 2008, 23:23	#7
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	This 'ball lock' problem also occurs in the GBA version... much to my frustration It doesn't happen very often though.

11 May 2008, 11:23	#9
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 2,428	In my case AGA version works flawlessly

11 May 2008, 12:00	#10
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	You could try the CD32 version. It's the one I use, it's a bit of a long shot though, admittedly.

11 May 2008, 19:26	#11
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	I'll take a look into it again... maybe even re-download the game from KG's site

11 May 2008, 20:30	#12
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Strange! I just tried installing the Chip only AGA version and replicated the no score counted bug... adding NOCACHE to that only made it worse (slow downs). I then deleted the install and tried the regular AGA version (not the CD32 one) and suddently it all works perfectly fine... oh well, I'm just happy it works... now I need a lot of practice on "Stones n Bones" hehehe

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16 November 2009, 06:49	#13
pintcat Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Berlin/Germany Posts: 226	I recently found out that the ChipOnly version seems to be extremely buggy (all the stuff that was mentioned before plus some more). I'm one of those poor people with that FastRAM problem and so I was forced to use the ChipOnly slave. I got rid of this problem by allocating the memory blocks $7f000000-7ff7ffff with a small tool from aminet. Now that I'm able to use the AGA slave, the game appears to work fine again.

04 December 2020, 23:13	#14
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,174	I just noticed that users using A4000 kickstart 3.1 in DEVS:kickstart will have issues too. FastMem slave only works with A1200 kickstart. Kristian95 who reported that back in 2008 is a A4000 owner so probably was using A4000 kick for whdload (and probably NOMMU or it would have crashed to wb with access fault) I just fixed that in the to-be-released version of the slave. To add to the confusion, the version of the slave where it works will be ... 3.1 Sorry for the inconvenience but the fastmem patch was released on 15.12.2002 so even in 2008 this was old to me... Another mystery fixed probably.