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I have a dream - clustering miggys...
I want to blow top off Sysinfo speed tests and see how many MIPS we could manage by combining 10 A1200's with PPC's installed
Possible? Necessary? Cool? Too Cool? Pointless? Are you daft? etc |
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18 May 2009, 18:46 | #3 |
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One of the most practical applications of this would be in rendering, and I did have my miggy successfully controlling 2 pcs IIRC with Lightwave
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I've been feeling Amiga fever lately.
Anyway, seriously how would one cluster Amiga's together... kind of like a Google server? hmmm |
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Er, you really are madder than a treeful of frogs. I do seem to remember some form of Occam being available on the amiga, but that was for a local transputer not a cluster.
You want to parallel the processors up to increase processing power... To cluster like this, merely write a parallel programming language (or use parallel extensions to C), create an appropriate protocol (or use an existing one), write the algorithm you want in a parallel aware way, network the amigas, distribute the software then manage the execution. Makes me wonder why no-one's done it before! |
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18 May 2009, 23:21 | #13 |
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No. The guys from Babylon5. They use 5 clustered Amigas to render the space ships. |
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Does clustering actually work for anything other than encryption breaking, mass SPAM emailing or detecting little green men??
The only implementation I've ever seen that works was the client-server batch data processing system. Where a client asks for a set of data, goes away and processes the data (where processing takes a long time compared to send/receive of data), and returns the result before asking for another set of data. The concept of clustering was great, the implementations all rubbish. If programmers cannot even use the 4-cores in my CPU linked by incredibly fast buses, how on earth are they going to use ones which are connected by dog-slow ethernet? Only in the pilot episode did they use Amiga's to render. They must have been dog slow. Last edited by alexh; 19 May 2009 at 00:58. |
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we use clustering on websphere for high availability... It isn't just for getting more MIPS, but I guess you know that.
Using Lightwave screamernet was "fun", for a given value of fun. I really can't remember now if I had the 3000 controlling the 2 windows PCs or whether I had to copy the scene and stuff to the one PC and use that as the master... I *think* I controlled it from the amiga, but that's going back years... |
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I think clustering *may* be possible, if you run netBSD, but we need network cards that 'support' clustering and of course the suitable s/ware etc etc...
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Taking this back tothe original question:
You couldn't use Sysinfo in a clustered environment like this, even if you managed to cluster the miggys. You'd need to rewrite the benchmarking to be cluster aware. For clustering to work, you need to quantise work in a way that can be split across distinct CPUs. This works nicely for rendering frames (a frame is a work unit), web servers (session is the work unit), but for raw MIPS testing you'd need to write a parallel aware benchmark. |
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