for those in their 20somethings, Do old amiga memories make you sad..

[lost_lemming]

..because you know it's never going to be 1988-mid90s again?
I do.

They say childhood memories will always warm you in a pleasant way but for me I dunno really.
You could say this about anything really, not just Amiga gaming, Anything at all.

This is probably a repost but I'll get to the point now - Basically, the Amiga back in the late 80s and early 90s was like a socialising spot for me and my sister growing up. I had my games which I liked and she had hers (She was about 5 years older so whilst I was playing simple games like Nebulus, She was playing Defender of the Crown and stuff) but Now sister has left. mom/dad used to buy me all the mags (Which I guess you could get from any shop really like you can get now in super markets etc, It's funny to think you'd go in and look at the shelf and there were a couple of Amiga mags just as comon as PS3/XBOX mags are like today). I was so young I didn't even know my mom/dad were buying these mags for me, I just assumed all these games disks were like coming out of nowhere haha! I'm waffling on a bit but basically the scene's gone.

I can't quite decide if it's good that I was growing up at a young age (not really understanding the long words on the games and written in the mags) OR - being this age now (24) and TOTALLY understanding the scene for my self, going out and ordering more high tech stuff from the back-page adverts on the mags hehheh.


makes me feel sad I'll never be 5 again playing with amiga with sister and family. I mean I could do a revival with my sister/family but I don't think they do the whole nostelgia-events and nostelgia-thinking overthetop like I do. - and it just wouldn't feel the same. just, not the same at all. you can't feel like it's 1989 in 2009.

anyway message over.

Sorry if none of this makes sense and yeah my spelling and puntuation is terrible I know.

[Adropac2]

Not for me so much because Amiga never went away as far as i was concerned - the biggest gap where i didn't game on mine was probably 4 or 5 years but i still wrote music on it

With what you said, it gets worse past the age of 30 i found(at least for me) or indeed maybe past a time you first start to enjoy gaming.The mystery of things just isn't there regarding a whole lot of stuff when you grow up some - and not just games either.It's a time where things leave more an impression i suppose and it's that reason now the magic seems to have drained from life as we know it now - nothing is a suprise anymore.

It's just as well then that i'm still a kid at heart and i can lose myself to game worlds - especially the older visually simpler games like Pitfall on 2600 say

In a way though i'm pleased for not needing to revisit the Amiga after some 15 years break say.It would be driven heavily by nostalgia if i did and i find that fond memories like these are often destroyed when revisited.I'm quite good these days at spotting what things i should leave well alone if i don't want the memory overwritten or blended new and old - this applies to everything of course because everything about what we know of our fond memories is something we will always want to relive - we really shouldn't of course as it's impossible to fully recreate a lot of this stuff.I should just enjoy your memories of what once was because it wont ever be like that again

Luckily this will never apply to how i enjoy my Amiga as it feels like it's always been part of what i do, but certainly other times in my life, i'd like to do all again

You might want to change the last word of your title by the way as i didn't understand what you meant at first

[TCD]

We had this 'Why do I hate everything' thread recently and this seems to be somewhat related. While I wasn't really sure about this 'hate/wow' thing being only age related (hi eLowar ), here it is surely the case. I think it's mainly about childhood memories tied with the Amiga and not so much about the Amiga itself. For some it's the Atari 2600, Lego or maybe the treehouse in the backyard. Surely I remember (and also miss) the times when you called up a friend after school and then played Speedball 2 the whole day, but I still really like to play Speedball 2 with my friends. It's not the same today, but it's still great fun
Ah well that were my 2 cents

[laffer]

Nostalgia can easily make one a bit depressed, happens to me often

[TCD]

/me pats laffer on the back
It's okay mate. We are here to help you
I think we all know know these situations and somehow for me it makes me call old friends or just fire up my real A500 (yeah baby ) I guess it's about what you make of these nostalgia 'flashbacks'

[alexh]

What makes me sad is that you're in your 20-somethings and you're already considering that the time gone by is better than the time ahead!

Madness.

Nostalgia is good, always nice to look back with fond memories (as long as they are not rose tinted), but I still look forward to the future more!! The next gen games, consoles, gadgets etc.

I wouldn't want to go back. Crappy Vinyl records, no mobile phone, no internet, no money, no car, no privacy, acne, school, yeuch!

[Paul_s]

Originally Posted by alexh

I wouldn't want to go back. Crappy Vinyl records, no mobile phone, no internet, no money, no car, no privacy, acne, school, yeuch!

CDs were pretty much in the limelight after '85. Vinyl's sound better than some CD recordings.. .depends who's mastering it though. Heard worse CD versions. Analogue = cool.

I'd quite happily trade my mobile phone to the bin - who wants to be contactable 24 hours a day! I certaintly don't so switch it off after work.

privacy? Are you kidding? There's none at all these days compared to back then. CCTV everywhere, government databases which will be combined so any tom dick or harry can access them. 25 million people's info copied to CD and lost....

Acne - at least we had clearasil.

School was better, far more social and no computers which meant teachers taught you.

I miss the old days, more fun, less carp to deal with and life was simple and less rushed imo. Computers nowadays are just soulless. Games are 3D and lifeless.

[asm1]

Originally Posted by Paul_s

CDs were pretty much in the limelight after '85. Vinyl's sound better than some CD recordings.. .depends who's mastering it though. Heard worse CD versions. Analogue = cool.

Yup, thats why I have a working turntable

Originally Posted by Paul_s

Acne - at least we had clearasil.

or for the really stubborn stuff oxy 5/10 lol

[s2325]

I have not mobile phone even today. For me it's only annoying toy (and I hate people screaming to them on street). I bought my first LCD ~month ago. Problems with refresh rate and not working WinUAE (0.8.25, maybe newer version can help).

[pmc]

Just my opinion but I don't think it's necessarily particular technologies / music / TV / whatever that makes people nostalgic so much as the fact that firstly people tend to remember the good things from days gone by and filter out the day to day mundane stuff.

Secondly, for most, remembering back to their childhoods is remembering back to a time when they were more carefree.

Instead of worrying about the job / house / mortgage / wife / kids like you do as you get older you could just get on with enjoying whatever it was you liked to enjoy.

Who's not going to think of days like that fondly?

[Hungry Horace]

I miss some things, like gaming with my brothers.

I can also cant play Pinball Fantasies since my mum passed away, although she was still playing that right up until this year.

But no, generally I am not saddened by memories of Amiga days gone, as I try to actively involve myself in doing new things with/for the system... I was never capable of this in my youth, and it's a fun and rewarding thing to do.

As for missing other trivial things non-amiga... not really. Miss people, loves, freedoms and passions ... dont dwell on the small things - life is too short.

[killergorilla]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

As for missing other trivial things non-amiga... not really. Miss people, loves, freedoms and passions ... dont dwell on the small things - life is too short.

[Photon]

I don't miss any of the stuff I had/did when I was 5yo. The guys that were part of the scene drawing programming composing competing should be more sad. Because there is more that is gone for them, like the vibrant scene and close friendships. But I think they're not, at least when an old Amiga memory pops up I am filled with a nostalgic happy feeling

The only thing I'm sad about is the 80s "everything is possible, nothing has been done before, all options are open". (Not just talking about the scene here.) It's just not the same scenario, mindset, attitude as then.

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Paul_s

CDs were pretty much in the limelight after '85.

Not here in the [North West] UK. We got ours in about 90 and CD's were still much more expensive so we continued to buy vinyl for another 3-4 years.

Originally Posted by Paul_s

Vinyl's sound better than some CD recordings.. .depends who's mastering it though. Heard worse CD versions.

Pissing about with needles, scratches, dust, skipping. Walkman's with about 1hrs battery life before slooowing down. No thank you, I don't ever want to go back.

Originally Posted by Paul_s

I'd quite happily trade my mobile phone to the bin - who wants to be contactable 24 hours a day!

Perhaps not 24, but certainly about 18. I cannot think why you wouldn't want to be contacted. You're complaining that life isnt social as much now and you're also complaining that it is too social?!?

Originally Posted by Paul_s

I certaintly don't, so switch it off after work.

Dunno about you, but I have not given my mobile number to work colleagues so I get no calls about work at all. Just friends and family, usually about where to meet up for a beer etc.

Originally Posted by Paul_s

privacy? Are you kidding? There's none at all these days compared to back then. CCTV everywhere, government databases which will be combined so any tom dick or harry can access them. 25 million people's info copied to CD and lost....

Who gives a crap about that kind of privacy? If they have any sense, no-one! What I meant was personal privacy. Remember what it was like to live at home:

Mothers who go through your personal things daily!

Siblings who steal your favourite stuff no matter where you hide it!

Not being able to have girl friends stay the night ("not in my house young man!")

Originally Posted by Paul_s

School was better, far more social and no computers which meant teachers taught you.

Homework, bullies, crap school dinners, stupid uniforms, fights over nothing, lessons about stuff that have absolutely no practical use in the real world, no-one taking you seriously "cos you're just a kid".

There were lots of good things about those days, but there are an equal number of things that were bad about them too!

Originally Posted by Paul_s

I miss the old days, more fun, less crap to deal with and life was simple and less rushed imo.

All self imposed "crap". Life could be as simple now as it was back then if you had decided to choose that path.

Originally Posted by Paul_s

Computers nowadays are just soulless. Games are 3D and lifeless.

You say lifeless, I say immersive and interactive.

[seuden]

Originally Posted by alexh

Not here in the UK. We got ours in about 90 and CD's were still much more expensive so we continued to buy vinyl for another 3-4 years.

I can remember having a cd player from around the mid 80's.

[alexh]

Well you were probably a rich southerner if you lived in Kent back then.

Whereas I was a poor Northerner from Lancashire

Thinking about it, I could probably have had a CD player a year earlier (88/89) had I chosen to. But there was at the time a Ghetto Blaster portable tape-deck craze and I'd asked for one of those instead. Perfect for hanging around the Park, in the cold, with your mates because you were too young to get into pubs. (Another reason why I'd never want to go back!)

[killergorilla]

I think we got a CD player in our house around 1992.

It came with 3 compilation disks which were crap!

[seuden]

Originally Posted by alexh

Well you were probably a rich southerner if you lived in Kent back then.

Whereas I was a poor Northerner from Lancashire

When I finally got one it was an Amstrad Midi hi-fi which was quite poetic as I had always wanted an Amstrad home computer.

Haha, unfortunately no. At the time we were living in a council estate in a very bad part of Leeds.

It wasn't mine btw, it was my parents and they were the first ones around to get a CD player. A set up very similar to this http://www.edwardsamuels.com/illustr...TV-BWfinal.jpg .

[Adropac2]

Alex

While 3d graphics have certainly accelerated to the point that they look pretty bloody good, there is actually less immersion seemingly now because of it -realism just isn't the key wether it's graphics or a desire for the dev to include a ton of stuff they want you to interact with.

Going back some when games did only a reasonable job of looking real, the design was such that it went well with those graphics.Certain game types these days are a little souless because we expect so much more of a match to those graphics than we ever did

Graphics are so far ahead of where interaction needs to also be that i wish sometimes they hadn't advanced at all in some respects.With that said however i wouldn't like to be without my Halo

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by alexh

Well you were probably a rich southerner if you lived in Kent back then.

I hope you are not implying there would be anything wrong with that!