APoV - The Next Big Project!

CodyJarrett · 09 January 2003, 09:10

The HOL has been released and the updating will be continuing steadily for some time now.

However, there is another new project on the horizon...

It's called APoV - Amiga Point of View!

APoV is an online Amiga retro games magazine in PDF form. It will be much like an old paper-based Amiga magazine in that there will be:

Reviews of games
Articles
Walkthroughs/cheats
Letters
etc.

However, we need more people in the team! So far we have:

[Edited by Cody]

Twistin Ghost' - Concept originator, General publisher (layout etc.), writer
CodyJarrett - Concept originator, Co-Managing Editor, writer
Walker - Concept originator, Co-Managing Editor, writer, walkthroughs/tips
blackcornflake - writer
Steve - writer
APFelon - writer
Shatterhand - writer
Belgarath - writer, walkthroughs/tips

At the moment, we mostly need writers. But remember, the writing needs to be of a professional quality. You'll need to properly play games (good and bad) again to write reviews and do a lot of research for many articles. Think carefully before signing on...

I've uploaded a taster review of APoV into the Zone (writing by me and layout by Twistin') to give you an idea. However, much still needs to be decided: for example, the theme/style of the magazine (both writing and graphics) and other issues.

Post here if you are interested, or PM me.

Fred the Fop · 09 January 2003, 09:45

No retrogaming community is as well maintained and no retrogame platfrom is as dearly loved. Deservedly so.

APFelon · 09 January 2003, 09:47

This sounds like something I could be interested in.

While I may hardly be the ultimate Amiga user on this forum, I am first and foremost a gamer... An advantage, actually, since I would be coming in to most games fresh and ignorant (let's not dwell on the "ignorant" part).

I can put together a decent article together when I am serious about it...

Just a few questions, maybe others have these as well:

Will the articles be released under real names or nyms?

Will the topics be self-selected or assigned?

Will we be responsible for selecting screen shots and writing captions/tags, or will an editor do that?

Will the articles focus on the Amiga as a whole, or just the gaming aspect?

How much does it pay? (ha, ha, just kidding).

Would you like to see a "sample" article before you sign on a writer?

Will this run like a regular magazine, with deadlines, etc?

Will this mag be monthly, bi-monthly, or quarterly?

How many articles would you like per writer per issue?

Not that your answers to any of these questions would affect my decision to enlist in the project, I am just curious about the minute details.

CodyJarrett · 09 January 2003, 09:58

Will the articles be released under real names or nyms?
Real names, but you can use an invented real name, if you like. I'm using my own name.

Will the topics be self-selected or assigned?
There will be usually be an ultimate decision maker to keep things moving, but mostly it's democratic and if you want to do something you can go ahead and do it. However, it should all be discussed first, so we know what's happening.

Will we be responsible for selecting screen shots and writing captions/tags, or will an editor do that?
The person reviewing the game or writing the article will grab screens and write captions (unless you're using a real Amiga, in which case someone else will do it). If you don't want to grab screens or write captions, no problem - someone else can it.

Will the articles focus on the Amiga as a whole, or just the gaming aspect?
Pretty much the gaming aspect, but a section on serious stuff would be a valid consideration. Also, a tutorial on writing games in Blitz would be a non-gaming thing that could be included. The amount of recent Amiga coverage is something else that needs to be decided.

How much does it pay? (ha, ha, just kidding).
Only the satisfaction of a job well done!

Would you like to see a "sample" article before you sign on a writer?
It might be a good idea if we don't know someone's writing, but in your case APFelon, we've all read yours and would love to have you onboard.

Will this run like a regular magazine, with deadlines, etc?
Mostly it will be like a regular magazine, tailored to suit our situations.

Will this mag be monthly, bi-monthly, or quarterly?
This is another decision that hasn't been made - it might be better to release issues roughly when they are ready instead of working to a deadline, because this is not a fulltime job and we all have lives to lead. But, regular releases are better than having one issue and then not having another one for a year.

How many articles would you like per writer per issue?
Each issue would probably have one to three articles per issue, depending on size and circumstances. There will be lots of special, smaller and regular articles too.

Phiber · 09 January 2003, 12:32

Hmmh.. a mag.. a PDF mag for us old retro farts like me..

This is very interesting.. I'm looking forward to see how this project gets going

Steve · 09 January 2003, 13:40

I like it a lot. I'd definitely be interested in writing for this new online Amiga mag. I've actually done some reviews for websites before. Here is a couple of reviews I've done of two C64 Dizzy games:

http://www.lemon64.com

Click on the Reviews button and then D.
I've reviewed Dizzy and Treasure Island Dizzy.

I'd be interested in writing games reviews, special Amiga related articles and possibly some sort of serious feature maybe on programming. I've a couple of questions. Who would be the editor of the magazine and is the mag name set in stone? I usually buy a magazine if the title is quite interesting like Edge magazine for instance and APoV doesn't really grab me.

CodyJarrett · 09 January 2003, 14:00

I'll probably take on the editor role of the magazine, unless anyone objects!

The name is pretty much fixed now...

Fjrb · 09 January 2003, 19:15

Very nice ... be sure to drop a notice when the first issue hits the street

Shatterhand · 09 January 2003, 21:16

This is great stuff! I am looking forward to the first issue.

I would love to be a writer, but I doubt my below-average english can do the job.

Check out those reviews and see if my english can do it. If it isn't good enough, then fine

http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=4883
http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=586
http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=1937
http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=5615
http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=4862

CodyJarrett · 09 January 2003, 21:36

If you really want to be a reviewer, I'm sure we can find a position for you!

I've just noticed that I spelt 'tail' as 'tale' in the review - doh!

thinlega · 09 January 2003, 22:16

I must say this looks great!!! And I look forward to your first edition....

Nyarlathotep · 09 January 2003, 22:36

Great idea!
Sadly my english don't allow me to contribute, but I wait for the first issue!

09 January 2003, 23:35

There's a lot of gfx and layout work to do it seems....great!

Cody, if you can provide the text and images seperately, I'll try to make an alternative layout.

Paul · 10 January 2003, 09:54

It looks a good idea

The sample page looks very professional. The only thing I do not like is the edge of the magnifying glass on the Summary.

Twistin'Ghost · 10 January 2003, 10:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul
It looks a good idea

The sample page looks very professional. The only thing I do not like is the edge of the magnifying glass on the Summary.

Yeah, I wanted to see the effect and just typed "magnifying glass" in Google and ended up finding a lacklustre image in the process.

7-Zark-7 · 10 January 2003, 15:51

Ambitious, but after seeing your work at HOL, I'm certain you guys can make a success of it.
To complete the cheesey retro-feel, I'd love to see the classic Zzap 64 speech bubble & "reviewer head" that give an expression of whether they thought the game was good/bad/ mediocre,(& if anyone remembers Zzap in fact did cover both Commodore machines until towards the end of its publishing life), but I'm just being nitpicky!

It reminds me a bit of "The One" when it reached its peak during the editorship of David Upchurch.
As much as I'd like to write something, I'd be far to crappy to play through to play properly!

One question Cody, would you hope to try & track down Amiga "stars" of yesteryear like,eg:Archer Maclean, Geoff Crammond, Andrew Braybrook, Peter Molyneaux,John Twiddy etc., for any interviews about their years on the Amiga/home computer era?

CodyJarrett · 10 January 2003, 15:54

Quote:

Originally posted by 7-Zark-7
One question Cody, would you hope to try & track down Amiga "stars" of yesteryear like,eg:Archer Maclean, Geoff Crammond, Andrew Braybrook, Peter Molyneaux,John Twiddy etc., for any interviews about their years on the Amiga/home computer era?

Absolutely.

Antiriad · 11 January 2003, 16:20

A admirable but somewhat ambitious project Cody.

I cant help but think that HOL and real life are enough already...

Good luck though. I would like to contribute also, but perhaps after the Whd Dat is in a "easily updateable" state - which it will be in the not too distant future.

That and i still harbour ambitions to go through the box scans on HOL and restore them one at a time.

DrBong · 11 January 2003, 17:01

Methinks I'll have my hands full with HOL for many many days to come!

Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind being a guest reviewer/writer much like Mel Croucher was for Zzap!64 and The Games Machine.

7-Zark-7 · 13 January 2003, 02:30

@Cody. Great to hear! It'll be interesting to hear if there was any more stories like that behind Abandoned Places' 2 development. And maybe what they think now of the "professional" industry as it exist today compared to the "cottage industry" it was back then.

09 January 2003, 09:10	#1
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	APoV - The Next Big Project! The HOL has been released and the updating will be continuing steadily for some time now. However, there is another new project on the horizon... It's called APoV - Amiga Point of View! APoV is an online Amiga retro games magazine in PDF form. It will be much like an old paper-based Amiga magazine in that there will be: Reviews of games Articles Walkthroughs/cheats Letters etc. However, we need more people in the team! So far we have: [Edited by Cody] Twistin Ghost' - Concept originator, General publisher (layout etc.), writer CodyJarrett - Concept originator, Co-Managing Editor, writer Walker - Concept originator, Co-Managing Editor, writer, walkthroughs/tips blackcornflake - writer Steve - writer APFelon - writer Shatterhand - writer Belgarath - writer, walkthroughs/tips At the moment, we mostly need writers. But remember, the writing needs to be of a professional quality. You'll need to properly play games (good and bad) again to write reviews and do a lot of research for many articles. Think carefully before signing on... I've uploaded a taster review of APoV into the Zone (writing by me and layout by Twistin') to give you an idea. However, much still needs to be decided: for example, the theme/style of the magazine (both writing and graphics) and other issues. Post here if you are interested, or PM me. Attached Thumbnails

09 January 2003, 13:40	#6
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Great Idea Cody! I like it a lot. I'd definitely be interested in writing for this new online Amiga mag. I've actually done some reviews for websites before. Here is a couple of reviews I've done of two C64 Dizzy games: http://www.lemon64.com Click on the Reviews button and then D. I've reviewed Dizzy and Treasure Island Dizzy. I'd be interested in writing games reviews, special Amiga related articles and possibly some sort of serious feature maybe on programming. I've a couple of questions. Who would be the editor of the magazine and is the mag name set in stone? I usually buy a magazine if the title is quite interesting like Edge magazine for instance and APoV doesn't really grab me.

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09 January 2003, 09:45	#2
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	No retrogaming community is as well maintained and no retrogame platfrom is as dearly loved. Deservedly so.

09 January 2003, 09:47	#3
APFelon Cable Buyer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Big Lake, USA Age: 52 Posts: 123	This sounds like something I could be interested in. While I may hardly be the ultimate Amiga user on this forum, I am first and foremost a gamer... An advantage, actually, since I would be coming in to most games fresh and ignorant (let's not dwell on the "ignorant" part). I can put together a decent article together when I am serious about it... Just a few questions, maybe others have these as well: Will the articles be released under real names or nyms? Will the topics be self-selected or assigned? Will we be responsible for selecting screen shots and writing captions/tags, or will an editor do that? Will the articles focus on the Amiga as a whole, or just the gaming aspect? How much does it pay? (ha, ha, just kidding). Would you like to see a "sample" article before you sign on a writer? Will this run like a regular magazine, with deadlines, etc? Will this mag be monthly, bi-monthly, or quarterly? How many articles would you like per writer per issue? Not that your answers to any of these questions would affect my decision to enlist in the project, I am just curious about the minute details.

09 January 2003, 09:58	#4
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Will the articles be released under real names or nyms? Real names, but you can use an invented real name, if you like. I'm using my own name. Will the topics be self-selected or assigned? There will be usually be an ultimate decision maker to keep things moving, but mostly it's democratic and if you want to do something you can go ahead and do it. However, it should all be discussed first, so we know what's happening. Will we be responsible for selecting screen shots and writing captions/tags, or will an editor do that? The person reviewing the game or writing the article will grab screens and write captions (unless you're using a real Amiga, in which case someone else will do it). If you don't want to grab screens or write captions, no problem - someone else can it. Will the articles focus on the Amiga as a whole, or just the gaming aspect? Pretty much the gaming aspect, but a section on serious stuff would be a valid consideration. Also, a tutorial on writing games in Blitz would be a non-gaming thing that could be included. The amount of recent Amiga coverage is something else that needs to be decided. How much does it pay? (ha, ha, just kidding). Only the satisfaction of a job well done! Would you like to see a "sample" article before you sign on a writer? It might be a good idea if we don't know someone's writing, but in your case APFelon, we've all read yours and would love to have you onboard. Will this run like a regular magazine, with deadlines, etc? Mostly it will be like a regular magazine, tailored to suit our situations. Will this mag be monthly, bi-monthly, or quarterly? This is another decision that hasn't been made - it might be better to release issues roughly when they are ready instead of working to a deadline, because this is not a fulltime job and we all have lives to lead. But, regular releases are better than having one issue and then not having another one for a year. How many articles would you like per writer per issue? Each issue would probably have one to three articles per issue, depending on size and circumstances. There will be lots of special, smaller and regular articles too.

09 January 2003, 12:32	#5
Phiber Hardware Freak Join Date: May 2002 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 50 Posts: 222	Hmmh.. a mag.. a PDF mag for us old retro farts like me.. This is very interesting.. I'm looking forward to see how this project gets going

09 January 2003, 14:00	#7
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I'll probably take on the editor role of the magazine, unless anyone objects! The name is pretty much fixed now...

09 January 2003, 19:15	#8
Fjrb Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 82	Very nice ... be sure to drop a notice when the first issue hits the street

09 January 2003, 21:16	#9
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	This is great stuff! I am looking forward to the first issue. I would love to be a writer, but I doubt my below-average english can do the job. Check out those reviews and see if my english can do it. If it isn't good enough, then fine http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=4883 http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=586 http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=1937 http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=5615 http://fire.spejs.net/detail.php?spel=4862

09 January 2003, 21:36	#10
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	If you really want to be a reviewer, I'm sure we can find a position for you! I've just noticed that I spelt 'tail' as 'tale' in the review - doh!

09 January 2003, 22:16	#11
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	I must say this looks great!!! And I look forward to your first edition....

09 January 2003, 22:36	#12
Nyarlathotep Zone Friend Join Date: May 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 148	Great idea! Sadly my english don't allow me to contribute, but I wait for the first issue!

09 January 2003, 23:35	#13
oldpx Posts: n/a	There's a lot of gfx and layout work to do it seems....great! Cody, if you can provide the text and images seperately, I'll try to make an alternative layout.

10 January 2003, 09:54	#14
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	It looks a good idea The sample page looks very professional. The only thing I do not like is the edge of the magnifying glass on the Summary.

10 January 2003, 15:51	#16
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Ambitious, but after seeing your work at HOL, I'm certain you guys can make a success of it. To complete the cheesey retro-feel, I'd love to see the classic Zzap 64 speech bubble & "reviewer head" that give an expression of whether they thought the game was good/bad/ mediocre,(& if anyone remembers Zzap in fact did cover both Commodore machines until towards the end of its publishing life), but I'm just being nitpicky! It reminds me a bit of "The One" when it reached its peak during the editorship of David Upchurch. As much as I'd like to write something, I'd be far to crappy to play through to play properly! One question Cody, would you hope to try & track down Amiga "stars" of yesteryear like,eg:Archer Maclean, Geoff Crammond, Andrew Braybrook, Peter Molyneaux,John Twiddy etc., for any interviews about their years on the Amiga/home computer era?

11 January 2003, 16:20	#18
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	A admirable but somewhat ambitious project Cody. I cant help but think that HOL and real life are enough already... Good luck though. I would like to contribute also, but perhaps after the Whd Dat is in a "easily updateable" state - which it will be in the not too distant future. That and i still harbour ambitions to go through the box scans on HOL and restore them one at a time.

11 January 2003, 17:01	#19
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	Methinks I'll have my hands full with HOL for many many days to come! Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind being a guest reviewer/writer much like Mel Croucher was for Zzap!64 and The Games Machine.

13 January 2003, 02:30	#20
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	@Cody. Great to hear! It'll be interesting to hear if there was any more stories like that behind Abandoned Places' 2 development. And maybe what they think now of the "professional" industry as it exist today compared to the "cottage industry" it was back then.

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