13 February 2020, 20:39 | #1 |
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New minimig core for the MIST
For everyone interested, there is a new minimig core for the MIST, date 09.02.2020 with further improvements. I would like to see infos about experiences of other minimig users on the MIST. Looking forward to any comments and discussion.
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14 February 2020, 14:03 | #2 |
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I use it with two 4GB hard drive images (PFS3) with 3.1.4.1, BestWB and WHDLoad. Works like a charm!
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So could you confirm it's cycle-accurate?
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14 February 2020, 18:38 | #5 |
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cycle accurate
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It can be if the core's designed to be cycle accurate. There is a cycle-accurate MC68000 core called FX68 - and the Mistery Atari ST core uses it. (The Amiga's much less sensitive to cycle-accuracy thanks to the custom chips - ST software sometimes uses the CPU to do things the Amiga would do with the copper - which require very precise timing. if the CPU timing is "wrong" then the effect falls apart.) The TG68K CPU used by Minimig was never intended to be a cycle-accurate replica of the MC68000 - just a CPU that's capable of running MC68000 (and 020) software - and in many cases its significantly quicker than the original. |
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14 February 2020, 19:38 | #7 |
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The reason I ask is because the lack of this feature causes problems on RPi/Amiberry. Some games (eg Barbarian) run too fast (not intentionally), making them unplayable.
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14 February 2020, 21:47 | #8 |
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not cycle exact
I have tried dozens of games the last 2 years and did not see one that runs to fast, so I think this is not a major issue here, if at all.Even demos that for example requires cycle exact cpu emulation on WINUAE like "100 most remembered 64 tunes" works on MIST.
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14 February 2020, 22:10 | #9 |
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It could be hard to tell perhaps in some games or demos, especially if you don't know about it and are not comparing against the real thing.
Try Barbarian, it's instantly visible. Or It Came From The Desert - intro, conversations and some action sequences are much faster. |
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15 February 2020, 20:42 | #11 |
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No, I was talking about Raspberry Pi. The explanation for these speedups there was that it's the lack of cycle-accurate feature. But I'm interestted in buying MiSTer, hence my questions.
Perhaps the FPGA boards/cores compensate for it somehow. Could you try It Came From The Desert as well, see how it behaves? |
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Bear in mind that while the MiST and MiSTer are related projects, they're not the same thing - and while I wouldn't expect the MiSTer's Minimig core to behave wildly differently, this thread has been about the latest MiST Minimig core. Quote:
It's probably because when configured without Fast RAM the memory timings are roughly correct on the Minimig core; the CPU can't run too far ahead if its having to wait for the chipset accessing memory like it would be on the real thing. |
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It's good to know that MiST development is still active though. If it was cheaper I'd've probably gotten it already, but around here it costs ~200 pounds (Lotharek) so not that much less than MiSTer. |
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