C=64 using Pc monitor

[Retrofan]

Hi:
I would like to know what do I need exactly to use it. Reading and searching a bit I know I could use a converter like this: http://www.ebay.es/itm/TV-RCA-Compos...06df20e&_uhb=1

or perhaps this: http://www.ebay.es/itm/Dreamcast-VGA...47477d8&_uhb=1

and a C= video to S-video like this: http://www.ebay.es/itm/291017503992?...84.m1438.l2649

to get a result like this: [ Show youtube player ]

but I was wondering (I don't like so much cables) if I coudn't use just the C= video to S-video cable and an S-Video to VGA cable like this: http://www.ebay.es/itm/VGA-Computer-...055a04b&_uhb=1

and also I was wondering how do I get the sound from the C=64.

[ajk]

I assume that last cable isn't going to work. It seems to be for the opposite purpose of converting a VGA signal into other signals, not s-video to VGA.

I'd also think that for the s-video output of that converter to work the outputting graphics card needs to support such use of the VGA port. Converting VGA to s-video requires quite a bit of electronics, and I can't imagine it could be made to fit inside that plug and at that kind of price.

[Retrofan]

And how can I get the sound using a Pc monitor?

Edit: Ah, ok the s-video cable has an Rca audio jack. I will need just an splitter to get it stereo.

[Amiga1992]

That last cable is for video cards that output all that stuff through their VGA port. It's not a converter. It doesn't doanything, it's just a cable.

You NEED an upscaler to connect a C64 to a VGA monitor. There is no other way.

[Retrofan]

Thanks. Yes, yes, I've already ordered the one of my first link.

[mark_k]

The converter you ordered should work fine. However many video-to-VGA converters always convert the frame rate, so the VGA output frame rate is 60Hz even for PAL 50Hz input. That means that smooth-scrolling games & demos aren't quite as smooth. I'd be interested to hear whether your converter has an option to not convert the frame rate.

[lukassid]

http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtop...ight=cheap+vga

[Retrofan]

I think it gets a wonderful quality. I don't mind if I -perhaps- lose a bit of smooth scrolling.

And you know... back in the day we used small monitors/Tv's, but I'm not going to use a big old CRT, so better a Led Pc monitor with so high quality.

Another example: [ Show youtube player ]

[xc8]

hi,

I used a similar to the 1st one you mentioned, I built a custom cable for c64->svideo. The results were mixed, there was some colour bleeding , but playing with the contrast/brightness/hue controls helped a bit.

[lukassid]

I had 3 of them, they all look the same but some give better picture and some are crap. They also die after few months of heavy use.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by lukassid

I had 3 of them, they all look the same but some give better picture and some are crap. They also die after few months of heavy use.

So what are you actually using?

Originally Posted by xc8

hi,

I used a similar to the 1st one you mentioned, I built a custom cable for c64->svideo. The results were mixed, there was some colour bleeding , but playing with the contrast/brightness/hue controls helped a bit.

Have you seen this? http://www.commodoreserver.com/BlogE...4A104C65DB541E

Edit: And this too: http://www.bigmech.com/misc/c64mods/noisereduction.html

Perhaps your cable isn't right. And you, lukassid? Perhaps a bad s-video cable without the 300Ω resistor on pin 6, Chroma, can destroy the converter with time. Edit: The cable I've ordered hasn't got the resistor either.

Perhaps some guy here could make the right/best s-video cable and sell it...

[tin]

Originally Posted by lukassid

I had 3 of them, they all look the same but some give better picture and some are crap. They also die after few months of heavy use.

I dunno, my local market one of them behind their CCTV monitor, which has been there and working for as long as I care to remember

[lukassid]

i got this one now: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221032560515
I also send one back to other ebay seller as picture was shaking.
I don't use it now as I managed to get HP 2025 monitor with s-video input. It works great with A600 too. I got PC connected with DVI, Amiga with VGA and C64 with S-Video to same screen.

[lukassid]

Originally Posted by tin

I dunno, my local market one of them behind their CCTV monitor, which has been there and working for as long as I care to remember

You can have my dead one as I can't find that ebay seller anymore. Just pay the postage.
I bought 3. First was good but died after 6 months, second is working great http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221032560515, third was looking almost the same but picture quality was rubbish.

[lukassid]

Aha, and I got proper S-video cable now for LCD from protovision
http://www.protovision-online.de/sho...roducts_id=118

[Retrofan]

Yep, that seems the best cable. Thanks

[Devlin]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2906312990...84.m1497.l2649

I just picked up one of these(it only cost me £1.45 yay nectar points) so i'll be digging my amiga out to give it a good testing later

[Neil79]

Originally Posted by Devlin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2906312990...84.m1497.l2649

I just picked up one of these(it only cost me £1.45 yay nectar points) so i'll be digging my amiga out to give it a good testing later

Please do, with screenshots

[Retrofan]

Yep, I want to see how it works.

And now, (completely off topic) as I haven't found an appropiate place to post this absolutely wonderful video, watch this "modern-retro" video of a C=64 connecting to bbs:

[ Show youtube player ]

[Devlin]

Originally Posted by Neil79

Please do, with screenshots

Sure. I don't have an amiga monitor to vga cable so i won't be able to see what the quality is like or if it will even work, since it has VGA-input too