Ghosts N Goblins patch v0.6a for test

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 01:18

Hi,

With Codetapper agreement, i have continue beta patch of Gng.

i have just uploading new beta patch in TheZone!

Can you test it?

I hope to have removed definitely temporary freeze on 68020 and > CPU

If many guys are no freeze, I'll continue patch and will release whdload's patch.

regards
Bertrand

Uptade:
Version 0.6c in TheZone!

Bamiga2002 · 20 February 2013, 10:15

Well I played to 5th stage, no freezes

. The sound still has some bugs but now you can actually hear a sound when collecting a "treasure". Is this going to include the jump-&-turn-&-shoot feature?

Looking forward to v1.0 patch

dlfrsilver · 20 February 2013, 10:27

the arcade boast this feature ?

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

Well I played to 5th stage, no freezes

. The sound still has some bugs but now you can actually hear a sound when collecting a "treasure".

Looking forward to v1.0 patch

great!!

I'll can finish it and add trainer option on whdload startup windows (both version will be supported ans debugged if possible)

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

Looking forward to v1.0 patch

I think it's possible but for a Gng's fan it's a crime!!!! because you change original gameplay...

Gng is for me one of the better amiga conversion, it's exactly arcade version (with same bugs!!) but with less colors

if i have some timeds, i will perhaps add colors using copper list (changing color palette several times in one screen).

For level one it's easy because there no vertical scrolling for other is possible but more complicate (i must found scrollling code and understand it but it's not really complicate in my option just it's needed precious time....)

Bamiga2002 · 20 February 2013, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

the arcade boast this feature ?

I don't remember, I played the original arcade cabinet many many moons ago...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFOU!

I think it's possible but for a Gng's fan it's a crime!!!! because you change original gameplay...

Gng is for me one of the better amiga conversion, it's exactly arcade version (with same bugs!!) but with less colors...

If it's not an original feature (jump&turn) then it's not needed. And yes, I'm a GnG fan!

Retro-Nerd · 20 February 2013, 11:13

Sadly the controls aren't really exact/smooth and the scrolling runs faster when you jump in some levels. It could have been an Amiga classic, but the port was a bit sloppy.

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Sadly the controls aren't really exact/smooth and the scrolling runs faster when you jump in some levels. It could have been an Amiga classic, but the port was a bit sloppy.

I do not totally agree ....

I know the arcade (I've played a lot in my youth

).

It seems to me that the rotten scrolling is also present in the arcade version (eg in amount at the beginning of Level 2 or Level 5.

It is not annoying as we know the game perfectly ...

If scrolling was fluid on amiga, I was disappointed because it would have changed the gameplay (including the speed of the character that would have faster)

Retro-Nerd · 20 February 2013, 11:38

That's true. The orginal Arcade version has a shitty scrolling too. At least the controls are really smooth.

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

That's true. The orginal Arcade version has a shitty scrolling too. At least the controls are really smooth.

playing amiga version, i am same pleasure and same sensation that playing arcade version..

Is this not the most important point for a successful conversion?

Retro-Nerd · 20 February 2013, 11:59

Maybe you should compare it via MAME. But it's OK for me if you like the Amiga version as much as the arcade version. It's a normal port, but not as good as some other Amiga arcade ports.

Anyway, it's good to see that you have time again to improve/do new WHDLoad patches.

dlfrsilver · 20 February 2013, 12:00

Very much like Toki or Snow Bros, or Pang.

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Maybe you should compare it via MAME. But it's OK for me if you like the Amiga version as much as the arcade version. It's a normal port, but not as good as some other Amiga arcade ports.

Lots Once I finished the arcade version and for me it is a good conversion on amiga because I have the same fun to play and the game is also addictive.

But it is certain that things could be improved in this conversion.

What is for you the best arcade conversion on amiga?

ps: for me, the best converter was FRANCE OCEAN (pang, snowbros,toki)

Rødland was wonderfull conversion too...

Retro-Nerd · 20 February 2013, 12:28

Pang is pretty good. Toki too but the viewable screen is too small. Arkanoid, Super Hang-on, Marble Madness, Midnight Resistance, Silkworm, Rainbow Islands, to name a few really good ports. I'm disappointed about the Ghouls'n'Ghosts Amiga conversion. Nearly unplayable and the scrolling is torture for your eyes.

Bamiga2002 · 20 February 2013, 13:03

Hmm...Sidewinder was a great "conversion"

I thought Bubble Bobble was good also.

dlfrsilver · 20 February 2013, 13:11

Rodland is pretty awesome in this regard, indeed

Midnight resistance too ; Rainbow Islands is quite average, and the game is not complete, (worlds missing, etc etc).

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I'm disappointed about the Ghouls'n'Ghosts Amiga conversion. Nearly unplayable and the scrolling is torture for your eyes.

Yes, me too.

Indeed, Ghouls'n ghost is a shame for amiga....

Bamiga2002 · 20 February 2013, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFOU!

Yes, me too.

Indeed, Ghouls'n ghost is a shame for amiga....

As a conversion it's shameful yes, but I must confess it's still one of my favorite games. Quite playable, great music but collision-detection is too wide.

Whitesnake · 20 February 2013, 16:37

I think a lot of people confuse Ghost'n Goblins with Ghouls'n Ghosts when it comes to their memory of it being in the arcade.

I don't think you could jump and throw your spears up and down in Ghost'n Goblins Arcade but you could in Ghouls'n Ghosts Arcade.

Although I could be getting mixed up.

It was also strange that Ghouls'n Ghosts was released before Ghost'n Goblins for the Amiga.

CFou! · 20 February 2013, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

I think a lot of people confuse Ghost'n Goblins with Ghouls'n Ghosts when it comes to their memory of it being in the arcade.

I don't think you could jump and throw your spears up and down in Ghost'n Goblins Arcade but you could in Ghouls'n Ghosts Arcade.

Although I could be getting mixed up.

It was also strange that Ghouls'n Ghosts was released before Ghost'n Goblins for the Amiga.

This is more sad because the more recent productions of the coder are better coded (http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_artist=739)

Indeed a GhoulsN Ghost version coded as DojoDan, assassin or Overdrive was been really better and perhaps in aga

20 February 2013, 01:18	#1
CFou! Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Age: 51 Posts: 4,277	Ghosts N Goblins patch v0.6d for test Hi, With Codetapper agreement, i have continue beta patch of Gng. i have just uploading new beta patch in TheZone! Can you test it? I hope to have removed definitely temporary freeze on 68020 and > CPU If many guys are no freeze, I'll continue patch and will release whdload's patch. regards Bertrand Uptade: Version 0.6c in TheZone! Last edited by CFou!; 22 February 2013 at 20:42. Reason: version superieur du patch

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20 February 2013, 10:15	#2
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Well I played to 5th stage, no freezes . The sound still has some bugs but now you can actually hear a sound when collecting a "treasure". Is this going to include the jump-&-turn-&-shoot feature? Looking forward to v1.0 patch

20 February 2013, 10:27	#3
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,474	the arcade boast this feature ?

20 February 2013, 11:13	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Sadly the controls aren't really exact/smooth and the scrolling runs faster when you jump in some levels. It could have been an Amiga classic, but the port was a bit sloppy.

20 February 2013, 11:38	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	That's true. The orginal Arcade version has a shitty scrolling too. At least the controls are really smooth.

20 February 2013, 11:59	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Maybe you should compare it via MAME. But it's OK for me if you like the Amiga version as much as the arcade version. It's a normal port, but not as good as some other Amiga arcade ports. Anyway, it's good to see that you have time again to improve/do new WHDLoad patches.

20 February 2013, 12:00	#12
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,474	Very much like Toki or Snow Bros, or Pang.

20 February 2013, 12:28	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Pang is pretty good. Toki too but the viewable screen is too small. Arkanoid, Super Hang-on, Marble Madness, Midnight Resistance, Silkworm, Rainbow Islands, to name a few really good ports. I'm disappointed about the Ghouls'n'Ghosts Amiga conversion. Nearly unplayable and the scrolling is torture for your eyes.

20 February 2013, 13:03	#15
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Hmm...Sidewinder was a great "conversion" I thought Bubble Bobble was good also.

20 February 2013, 13:11	#16
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,474	Rodland is pretty awesome in this regard, indeed Midnight resistance too ; Rainbow Islands is quite average, and the game is not complete, (worlds missing, etc etc).

20 February 2013, 16:37	#19
Whitesnake Martin Shaw Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 463	I think a lot of people confuse Ghost'n Goblins with Ghouls'n Ghosts when it comes to their memory of it being in the arcade. I don't think you could jump and throw your spears up and down in Ghost'n Goblins Arcade but you could in Ghouls'n Ghosts Arcade. Although I could be getting mixed up. It was also strange that Ghouls'n Ghosts was released before Ghost'n Goblins for the Amiga.

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