Nitro

[Eclipse]

Hi,
I didn't realise until today there is no IPF of Nitro. Is it still due to bad mastering?? Or are all overwritten with the high scores?
Thanks.

[Harry]

There are 4 Psygnosis Amiga games which use a very special encoding which would require special programming to support them as ipf. Nitro is one of them.
See http://www.softpres.org/wip:2003-04-04 for details.

[Eclipse]

Wow, that's interesting.
So even with Kryo we still wouldn't be able to dump Psygnosis recording format disks?

[IFW]

They are perfectly well dumped and have been even with Amiga.
The problem is that I never support data that is blindly stored in a file - and those games require a special encoding/decoding implemented in the analyser and ipf library.
Very small return for quite some work, so it has to wait.

[SquawkBox]

@SPS Team
Care to reconsider ? That instant classic fails to load on my A500.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

@SPS Team
Care to reconsider ? That instant classic fails to load on my A500.

If you go onto the file server and search "nitro scoopex", your problems are solved.

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

@SPS Team
Care to reconsider ? That instant classic fails to load on my A500.

HFE v3 to run the game. I tested it, it works on my A500.

[Nobby_UK]

What's the deal with the 'Unofficial' one ?

Arnie/SPS/Non TOSEC IPFs - Unofficial/Nitro (Europe,Australia)(Unofficial ipf)

[StingRay]

The unofficial IPF is fine!

[SquawkBox]

Let me rephrase : As far as the canonical cracked versions are concerned e.q. melnok's, the game loads fine. Trouble is it doesn't transition from Disk 1 (intro) to Disk 2. That's why a Scoopex version bearing the intro and the game on the same disk image is most welcome.

Originally Posted by StingRay

The unofficial IPF is fine!

Just curious, what prevents this batch of IPF's from gaining official status then ? Some kind of reluctancy to cross the red line that was drawn by the big cheese @SPS ?

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

Let me rephrase : As far as the canonical cracked versions are concerned e.q. melnok's, the game loads fine. Trouble is it doesn't transition from Disk 1 (intro) to Disk 2. That's why a Scoopex version bearing the intro and the game on the same disk image is most welcome.


Just curious, what prevents this batch of IPF's from gaining official status then ? Some kind of reluctancy to cross the red line that was drawn by the big cheese @SPS ?

The IPF of Nitro, the current one, has blind data inside it. It is not described (like any IPF should be).

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

Let me rephrase : As far as the canonical cracked versions are concerned e.q. melnok's, the game loads fine. Trouble is it doesn't transition from Disk 1 (intro) to Disk 2. That's why a Scoopex version bearing the intro and the game on the same disk image is most welcome.


Just curious, what prevents this batch of IPF's from gaining official status then ? Some kind of reluctancy to cross the red line that was drawn by the big cheese @SPS ?

SPS made it clear right from the off, they would preserve any and all Amiga disks with the intention of them being able to be written back to floppy in the future.

There are 5 or so Psygnosis games where although SPS understands the format and knows it inside out, because this format was written blind with no checking of the data as it wrote to floppy, means that SPS cannot guarantee that what is in the IPF, will be correctly written to floppy.

So these 5 or so games were never officially released as IPF because of this issue.

Its basically SPS ensuring that anything contained in the IPF format is 100% verified so that its a trusted format.

They don't modify IPF files, they don't fix broken versions of games, they preserve them warts and all.

Its simply SPS being meticulous.

[New Sky]

Hi,

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

If you go onto the file server and search "nitro scoopex", your problems are solved.

Just curious, does anybody know when was released that cracked version of Nitro ?

Thanks

[SquawkBox]

Can't say for sure, but the ADF was posted in the zone in 2017. Intro (during startup, left click to watch intro, right click to play according to cracktro) of said release doesn't seem to load on my machine (no biggie).

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

Can't say for sure, but the ADF was posted in the zone in 2017. Intro (during startup, left click to watch intro, right click to play according to cracktro) of said release doesn't seem to load on my machine (no biggie).

What is your machine?

[SquawkBox]

1 Mo chip ECS A500 equipped with Gotek and latest FF

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

1 Mo chip ECS A500 equipped with Gotek and latest FF

Where does it fail?

There is nothing special about that setup, it works on AGA machines

[SquawkBox]

The intro fails (again, not the game) to load, no error message, just a colored horizontal stripe flashing. Just to make things clear, it's the game itself that matters to me, so I am cool with your release. There is not much more that comes to mind, maybe related to the way it is packed inside the tracks (aka the ECS chipset that would have a hard time dealing with Shrinkler intricacies ) ?

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

The intro fails (again, not the game) to load, no error message, just a colored horizontal stripe flashing. Just to make things clear, it's the game itself that matters to me, so I am cool with your release. There is not much more that comes to mind, maybe related to the way it is packed inside the tracks (aka the ECS chipset that would have a hard time dealing with Shrinkler intricacies ) ?

You sure you left it long enough?

It's very very very very slow to depack the intro on 68000

[SquawkBox]

Ah, I've just seen it! Not to be nit picking, but I must say that colored stripe that displays while it's depacking is pretty seizure-inducing, not sure I will repeat the experience anytime soon .