What's the best gfx card specifically made for Amigas ??

Kristian95 · 11 July 2007, 17:22

I was just wondering what is the best gfx card made specifically for the amiga ?? Also how much is such a card worth these days ??
My guess is that the Picasso IV ranks high there ??

alexh · 11 July 2007, 17:50

Picasso IV and about £200 perhaps a bit lower.

A bvision is good for a desktop A1200 but you need a BPPC.

Kristian95 · 11 July 2007, 17:58

Thanks

I'm mainly interested in the card for a Box Amiga

Also, with a Picasso IV, is it possible to have all gfx output (incl. native modes) scandoubled with that card or is a scandoubler required for the native modes ??

alexh · 11 July 2007, 18:00

It has a 24-bit integrated scandoubler.

The scandoubler can be "removed" so make sure you get one with it fitted or separate with cables.

Kristian95 · 11 July 2007, 18:06

ok

much obliged!!

Effy · 11 July 2007, 23:41

I see some go for 80 GBP and I see the same cards go for over 130 GBP, and I also see some people asking 150 GBP for it, so what is the real price ? Depends on where you want to buy it from, and if you want to buy from Ebay then I can tell you that the best deals can be made on a Sunday evening

Most winning bids are pretty low then ...

keropi · 12 July 2007, 07:47

effy! u alive!

pIV's rule...

jabsy · 12 July 2007, 08:28

I paid $US275 for a PIV about 2 or 3 months ago. I thought it was a fair price.

Effy · 12 July 2007, 13:02

The more people charge extreme prices, the more potential buyer think this really is the actual price, even if the cards do not get sold at those prices ...

Hi to you too Keropi

ancalimon · 13 July 2007, 20:01

I've got CVisionPPC and I think it is the best card made specifically for Amigas.

Zetr0 · 13 July 2007, 20:42

I have a voodoo5500 pci... and it is the best card that should of been made for the amiga!

does that count...

infact I do hava a cybervision 64/3d Mk2 and i found it a very nice card to work with. it was very simple to setup under p96 (i think most cards are) and its highly configurable with cgfx.

Its a shame the (limmited) 3d acceleration of the Virge S3D chip was never used. it could of opened up some interesting demos and game posibilites. I was totaly p*ssed with H&P with their lack of support with StormC & Warp3D grrr... still bites me now.... grrr....

well i just looks like i gotta write an opengl library for the amiga OS3.x

)

then a few games... make loads of money porting them over to the PS3/GBA

ahhh.... if only...

keropi · 13 July 2007, 21:25

the best zorro-based card is the picassoIV, the best PCI card is the voodoo3-3000 and the best custom-slot card (pci) are the Bvision/Cvision

coze · 13 July 2007, 21:41

how compatible are BVision/CVision ? (I mean with each other) there are some demos (Planet Potion, the bestest amiga demo ever) which is said to be specifically for BVision. Would it work on a CVision ? anybody tried ?

ancalimon · 13 July 2007, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

how compatible are BVision/CVision ? (I mean with each other) there are some demos (Planet Potion, the bestest amiga demo ever) which is said to be specifically for BVision. Would it work on a CVision ? anybody tried ?

They sould be 100% compatible.

ancalimon · 13 July 2007, 22:01

CVision and BVision are much faster than any PCI solution because of the increadibly fast transfers between CPU and GFX mem.

keropi · 13 July 2007, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancalimon

CVision and BVision are much faster than any PCI solution because of the increadibly fast transfers between CPU and GFX mem.

but not faster than a voodoo card on a G-Rex1200/4000 PCI ....

CU_AMiGA · 13 July 2007, 22:36

i always thought any PCI were faster than C/BVision

Zetr0 · 13 July 2007, 22:39

I am under the impression that the Bvision's is mini PCI, making it quite a mute point?

aha!.. interesting, the Bvision is (miniPCI) infact a 25mhz PCI bus. the mediators / grex have a 33mhz bus (for the wont of a shark ppc so i can have it at 66mhz LOL )

The cybervsion is on a 50mhz VL bus (z3) but really doesn't have many hardware 3d features.

CU_AMiGA · 13 July 2007, 22:49

i thought the bvision and cvision had tons of 3d hardware features (for the time) hence warp 3d, etc.

CU_AMiGA · 13 July 2007, 22:49

are you saying that cybervision is faster than blizzardvision by default?

11 July 2007, 17:22	#1
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	What's the best gfx card specifically made for Amigas ?? I was just wondering what is the best gfx card made specifically for the amiga ?? Also how much is such a card worth these days ?? My guess is that the Picasso IV ranks high there ??

13 July 2007, 22:39	#18
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I am under the impression that the Bvision's is mini PCI, making it quite a mute point? aha!.. interesting, the Bvision is (miniPCI) infact a 25mhz PCI bus. the mediators / grex have a 33mhz bus (for the wont of a shark ppc so i can have it at 66mhz LOL ) The cybervsion is on a 50mhz VL bus (z3) but really doesn't have many hardware 3d features. Last edited by Zetr0; 13 July 2007 at 22:45.

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11 July 2007, 17:50	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,479	Picasso IV and about £200 perhaps a bit lower. A bvision is good for a desktop A1200 but you need a BPPC.

11 July 2007, 17:58	#3
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Thanks I'm mainly interested in the card for a Box Amiga Also, with a Picasso IV, is it possible to have all gfx output (incl. native modes) scandoubled with that card or is a scandoubler required for the native modes ??

11 July 2007, 18:00	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,479	It has a 24-bit integrated scandoubler. The scandoubler can be "removed" so make sure you get one with it fitted or separate with cables.

11 July 2007, 18:06	#5
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	ok much obliged!!

11 July 2007, 23:41	#6
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 56 Posts: 677	I see some go for 80 GBP and I see the same cards go for over 130 GBP, and I also see some people asking 150 GBP for it, so what is the real price ? Depends on where you want to buy it from, and if you want to buy from Ebay then I can tell you that the best deals can be made on a Sunday evening Most winning bids are pretty low then ...

12 July 2007, 07:47	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	effy! u alive! pIV's rule...

12 July 2007, 08:28	#8
jabsy Yeah Hup! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 54 Posts: 345	I paid $US275 for a PIV about 2 or 3 months ago. I thought it was a fair price.

12 July 2007, 13:02	#9
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 56 Posts: 677	The more people charge extreme prices, the more potential buyer think this really is the actual price, even if the cards do not get sold at those prices ... Hi to you too Keropi

13 July 2007, 20:01	#10
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,416	I've got CVisionPPC and I think it is the best card made specifically for Amigas.

13 July 2007, 20:42	#11
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I have a voodoo5500 pci... and it is the best card that should of been made for the amiga! does that count... infact I do hava a cybervision 64/3d Mk2 and i found it a very nice card to work with. it was very simple to setup under p96 (i think most cards are) and its highly configurable with cgfx. Its a shame the (limmited) 3d acceleration of the Virge S3D chip was never used. it could of opened up some interesting demos and game posibilites. I was totaly p*ssed with H&P with their lack of support with StormC & Warp3D grrr... still bites me now.... grrr.... well i just looks like i gotta write an opengl library for the amiga OS3.x ) then a few games... make loads of money porting them over to the PS3/GBA ahhh.... if only...

13 July 2007, 21:25	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	the best zorro-based card is the picassoIV, the best PCI card is the voodoo3-3000 and the best custom-slot card (pci) are the Bvision/Cvision

13 July 2007, 21:41	#13
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	how compatible are BVision/CVision ? (I mean with each other) there are some demos (Planet Potion, the bestest amiga demo ever) which is said to be specifically for BVision. Would it work on a CVision ? anybody tried ?

13 July 2007, 22:01	#15
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,416	CVision and BVision are much faster than any PCI solution because of the increadibly fast transfers between CPU and GFX mem.

13 July 2007, 22:36	#17
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	i always thought any PCI were faster than C/BVision

13 July 2007, 22:49	#19
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	i thought the bvision and cvision had tons of 3d hardware features (for the time) hence warp 3d, etc.

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