PiStorm performance with different Pi models?

utri007 · 07 March 2023, 23:32

PiStorm supports Pi Zero, but how much it is slower than with Pi 3A+ or other models?

What SysInfo tells about different RaspBerry models and PiStorm?

nikosidis · 07 March 2023, 23:43

Well it is not that big difference from Pi Zero to Pi3 as it is to Pi4.
Pi 3 as I have is 900MIPS. I think Pi4 as almost the double.

project23 · 08 March 2023, 03:06

I believe with an overclock the zero 2 can be made to run at about the speed of the 3a+.

If in doubt jump on the pistorm discord and someone will give ya the answers ya need!

EDIT: The biggest speed difference by far comes from whether or not you choose emu68 (FAST, rtg, storage and fastram) or pistorm classic (about the speed of a 125mhz 030 on a 3a+, but with rtg, storage, fastram, networking, file sharing, command passthrough, keyboard and mouse passthrough).

Jolabandola · 08 March 2023, 22:04

I will get my Pi3a+ on friday so i can plug it in and test in my 1200 compared to my Pistorm600 with the Pi0

utri007 · 10 March 2023, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolabandola

I will get my Pi3a+ on friday so i can plug it in and test in my 1200 compared to my Pistorm600 with the Pi0

Did you mean this Friday

SKOLMAN_MWS · 10 March 2023, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

PiStorm supports Pi Zero, but how much it is slower than with Pi 3A+ or other models?

The RPi Zero is not supported, just the RPi Zero 2

Result from SysSpeed on A1200 with RPi Zero 2 link

shelter · 11 March 2023, 12:44

They really need to fix that chip speed vs A600.

alexh · 11 March 2023, 14:06

Pi4 instability in Emu68 is now fixed btw

wiz12 · 11 March 2023, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Pi4 instability in Emu68 is now fixed btw

Does the Pi3 still have better compatibility overall compared to the Pi4 or has the new nightly negated that?

Dunny · 13 March 2023, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boing-Ball

Hold and modify YouTube channel has installed a Pi4… you should see the RAM! You get on both chip and fast…

Just installed 3.2, Pi4 on Ps32Lite.

utri007 · 13 March 2023, 16:31

SysInfo benchmarks please?

alexh · 13 March 2023, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

SysInfo benchmarks please?

They are in the video linked to above by Boing Ball.

Here it is again, 5m06s.

[ Show youtube player ]

nikosidis · 13 March 2023, 20:28

Here is Pi3, A1200 on internet
[ Show youtube player ]

khph_re · 14 April 2023, 19:57

Hi all, i know that EMU68 is super fast,
But you lose network and RTG.
Can the Pi-os mode rival an 060?

nikosidis · 15 April 2023, 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by khph_re

Hi all, i know that EMU68 is super fast,
But you lose network and RTG.
Can the Pi-os mode rival an 060?

You do not loose RTG. It is own free driver for it.

Network is easy with PCMCIA network card on A1200 that is what Pistorm32 is running on for now.

desiv · 15 April 2023, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

Network is easy with PCMCIA network card on A1200 that is what Pistorm32 is running on for now.

True, although not all PiStorms are PiStorm32s.
My A500 wouldn't mind getting connected once his PiStorm shows up.
Although, if that just means just running a slower emulator core or something, that's fine with me.

StevenJGore · 05 July 2023, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

SysInfo benchmarks please?

I got my PiStorm32 Lite for my A1200 yesterday from AmigaKit, and I'm using it with a 2GB Pi 4B. I've attached the benchmarks using the latest May 10th nightly. Almost the same as in the video posted above. FWIW, I've also attached the benchmarks for my Vampire V2 V1200 for comparison.

The RTG is very good, I'm running Workbench in 1920x1080x32RGBA with visualprefs and anti-alisased fonts. Looks amazing.

alexh · 05 July 2023, 16:51

There have been several optimisations discovered for the Mushashi version just recently thanks to the efforts of the Atari ST Pistorm community (who can't currently use emu68) that have not made it back upstream I don't think.

RTG might be "good" but there is so much room for improvement. No acceleration, all emulated CPU driven.

StevenJGore · 05 July 2023, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boing-Ball

Half the Chip speed still? Looking at your comparisons. I guess the 1.5 is from the PiStorm32?

Yep, 1635 MIPS but 1.57 chip RAM speed. Over on the PiStorm discord channel, apparrently there's a new nightly imminent with much better chip RAM speed. I think somebody on here posted about it in the TFX thread.

Lemaru · 05 July 2023, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boing-Ball

Half the Chip speed still? Looking at your comparisons. I guess the 1.5 is from the PiStorm32?

They have hit the maximum possible chipram write speed with some experimental firmware that is in testing. It hasn't been publicly released yet, and work is currently ongoing on further improvements.

Unfortunately the chipram speed test on SysInfo is not too useful, better to use a proper benchmark tool

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07 March 2023, 23:43	#2
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,607	Well it is not that big difference from Pi Zero to Pi3 as it is to Pi4. Pi 3 as I have is 900MIPS. I think Pi4 as almost the double.

08 March 2023, 03:06	#3
project23 Used Register Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Liverpool Age: 41 Posts: 437	I believe with an overclock the zero 2 can be made to run at about the speed of the 3a+. If in doubt jump on the pistorm discord and someone will give ya the answers ya need! EDIT: The biggest speed difference by far comes from whether or not you choose emu68 (FAST, rtg, storage and fastram) or pistorm classic (about the speed of a 125mhz 030 on a 3a+, but with rtg, storage, fastram, networking, file sharing, command passthrough, keyboard and mouse passthrough).

08 March 2023, 22:04	#4
Jolabandola Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Nordmaling/Sweden Posts: 100	I will get my Pi3a+ on friday so i can plug it in and test in my 1200 compared to my Pistorm600 with the Pi0

11 March 2023, 12:44	#7
shelter Registered User Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: #Amigaland Posts: 156	They really need to fix that chip speed vs A600.

11 March 2023, 14:06	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Pi4 instability in Emu68 is now fixed btw

13 March 2023, 16:31	#11
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	SysInfo benchmarks please?

13 March 2023, 20:28	#13
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,607	Here is Pi3, A1200 on internet [ Show youtube player ]

14 April 2023, 19:57	#14
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 524	Hi all, i know that EMU68 is super fast, But you lose network and RTG. Can the Pi-os mode rival an 060?

05 July 2023, 16:51	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	There have been several optimisations discovered for the Mushashi version just recently thanks to the efforts of the Atari ST Pistorm community (who can't currently use emu68) that have not made it back upstream I don't think. RTG might be "good" but there is so much room for improvement. No acceleration, all emulated CPU driven.

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