Ultima 2 Working copy

Splatman · 20 October 2001, 18:54

Can any one tell me how to get Ultima 2 working on UAE any version? Only sodding Ultima I finished on the Amiga and I can't get UAE to run it. That's life or is it? Tell me more please.

Drake1009 · 20 October 2001, 18:57

Never found Ultima 2 or 1 for the Amiga.

But I remembered having a lot of problems with WinUAE because you needed to create a character disk, and disk saving would crash WinUAE. The only solution I found was in the end creating the character disk on a real amiga and then playing the game on Winfellow.

RetroMan · 20 October 2001, 20:08

@Drake1009

Your search has come to an end, I post Ultima1 +2 to THE ZONE in a minute

@Splatman

head over here : http://www.back2roots.org/Games/List/U/
and use the config posted for Ultima 1, also works for Ultima 2

andreas · 20 October 2001, 20:23

Hey Splatman!

The disk you sent me privately (yes, he had to, because he can't access the zone yet!) is actually Ultima V Disk 2.

Since it's Disk 2, it can't boot - therefore it's plain logical you couldn't make it work with UAE!

//Edit: The disk you sent me is the SAME disk Retroman just upped named "Ultima 2"!
@Retroman, thus it's Disk 2 of Ultima V, too! Take a closer look!

Unfortunately I have to spoil the party again: the disk Retroman upped named "Ultima 1" is Ultima V Disk 1!
Sorry ... no Ultima 1.

In other words:
If you download both of Retroman's disks, you can play Ultima V afterwards!

Drake1009 · 20 October 2001, 20:46

I looked for Ultima 1 and 2 before and came up empty handed.

But at least it seems that there were a reason he couldn't play it huh?

andreas · 20 October 2001, 20:50

Definitely.

Drake1009 · 20 October 2001, 21:08

If you download both of Retroman's disks, you can play Ultima V afterwards

It's only 2 disks? Ok I have it on the Amiga, but I can't remember how many disks it is. The C64 version takes 4-5 disks double sided.

Splatman · 20 October 2001, 21:43

Cheers V much.

Only problem now is getting on the zone to get em!

Teach to me belive what was posted on the AEN board, a!:laugh

any chance of a mail of it until I can...

andreas · 20 October 2001, 21:52

@Splatman

you can only see both disks of Ultima V on the ADF Zone as well as the file you sent me privately.
Ultima V is quite common, you should be lucky to get it from somewhere else without problems

20 October 2001, 21:56

To the best of my knowledge, Ultima I & II weren't released on the Amiga. We've had them in the TOSEC dat for a while, until we noticed that they were actually just disk 1 & 2 of Ultima V... There's a PD version of Ultima I for Amiga, however. Don't know how faithful it is to the original, haven't tried it personally.

Drake1009 · 20 October 2001, 22:03

That's typical isn't it? There were Ultima 1-5 on the C64, which I was very close to buying as a bundle pack once but didn't really like the screenshots from the dungeon (Face it I was a dummy to not realize it was parts of the game and not entire games like that).

And there's also an Ultima collection for the PC where you get Ultima 1-? (7 or 8?).

Why has the Amiga been passed up for those two? As I see it the Amiga was a sort of middle step between the PC and C64. Many games were made on the PC (Or amiga) because the C64 wasn't good enough to play them, and the PC was sadly a computer which after C64 developing was dropped got most of the developing for some reason. If it was both on C64 and PC, why not Amiga? It's not because it's so old because then it wouldn't exist on the PC, and it's definately not because it's too new since it appeared on the C64. and later games did too.

Splatman · 20 October 2001, 22:09

OK. I have got a working Ultima 1 and I am dropping into andreas to post on the zone... As he said i can't get on the dam thing yet!!

Can anyone mail me Ultima 2 or post it for when I can get into the zone and yes it was done on the Amiga, I played it....

andreas · 20 October 2001, 22:38

That's NOT Ultima 1, that's actually ZERG, a shareware game by Mike Shapiro, from 1989! This game was on a Fish disk of the 2xx series.

This game is available on Back To The Roots. (Look under ZERG).
FWIW, I'm gonna post this on the zone anyway even though I think it's actually pointless.

@morph72
GLADLY you TOSEC guys didn't believe in fairy-tales (yet) and didn't offer ADFs renamed as 'Ultima I' or 'Ultima II' so far. I can second your statements, every "Ultima I" or "Ultima II" for the Amiga is definitely a fake! So the TOSEC people prove again that they check EVERYTHING for it's actual contents instead of spreading false information. Way to go, guys!

Splatman · 20 October 2001, 22:49

I thought the give away bit was Press F3 for Ultima and when you select about it says Ultima 1 by Lord British....

Just not my night I guess.

O well I got another post so only another 3 mill before I can get on the zone

20 October 2001, 23:34

Well, just for the record, I have a compilation disk with a Black Monks demo and this PD Ultima version by Mike Shapiro here... according to the docs, the game is called "Ultima" and Zerg was the "developername"... I wonder what the correct title should be.

RetroMan · 20 October 2001, 23:49

See what happens when not using TOSEC

ahhh, damn, that mean by any chance that I have deleted Ultima 1 and 2 and kept TWO copys of Ultima V

Keep fingers crossed I have them on real disk anywhere, gonna search for them right now ....

Ian · 21 October 2001, 00:00

By no means am I an expert on the Ultima games, in fact I now Jack S**t about them, but looking through my collection of Amiga LSD doc disk's, I spotted on LSD026 soloutions for Ultima 1/2/3 and 4.

Don't know if this means there were Amiga version's or not though.

I think LSD002 also had some stuff about Ultima 1 on it.

RetroMan · 21 October 2001, 00:02

Well, I know FOR SURE there is an ULTIMA 1 for Amiga, cause I played it a long time ago until the end

and I´m pretty sure I also played Ultima 2, but thats a mistery until I find that damn disks

Splatman · 21 October 2001, 12:28

Just remembr to stick them in the zone if you find them. May be the only copy still in existance:hooooo

Many thanks for the help either way.

14 February 2002, 10:55

In the Ultima Collection cd, it clearly describes which versions of Ultima were released for which computer. I don't have it with me right now but I was surprised when I saw Ultima 1&2 were not released for amiga. They wouldn't make good amiga games though; not with that graphics so they may have needed to be improved greatly for the amiga market. Maybe origin preferred not to bother at all, or maybe they could not finance the development and marketing of amiga version at that time.

20 October 2001, 18:54	#1
Splatman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Back of Beyond Age: 58 Posts: 60	Ultima 2 Working copy Can any one tell me how to get Ultima 2 working on UAE any version? Only sodding Ultima I finished on the Amiga and I can't get UAE to run it. That's life or is it? Tell me more please.

20 October 2001, 20:23	#4
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Hey Splatman! The disk you sent me privately (yes, he had to, because he can't access the zone yet!) is actually Ultima V Disk 2. Since it's Disk 2, it can't boot - therefore it's plain logical you couldn't make it work with UAE! //Edit: The disk you sent me is the SAME disk Retroman just upped named "Ultima 2"! @Retroman, thus it's Disk 2 of Ultima V, too! Take a closer look! Unfortunately I have to spoil the party again: the disk Retroman upped named "Ultima 1" is Ultima V Disk 1! Sorry ... no Ultima 1. In other words: If you download both of Retroman's disks, you can play Ultima V afterwards! Last edited by andreas; 20 October 2001 at 20:53.

20 October 2001, 22:38	#13
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Nooooo........ That's NOT Ultima 1, that's actually ZERG, a shareware game by Mike Shapiro, from 1989! This game was on a Fish disk of the 2xx series. This game is available on Back To The Roots. (Look under ZERG). FWIW, I'm gonna post this on the zone anyway even though I think it's actually pointless. @morph72 GLADLY you TOSEC guys didn't believe in fairy-tales (yet) and didn't offer ADFs renamed as 'Ultima I' or 'Ultima II' so far. I can second your statements, every "Ultima I" or "Ultima II" for the Amiga is definitely a fake! So the TOSEC people prove again that they check EVERYTHING for it's actual contents instead of spreading false information. Way to go, guys! Last edited by andreas; 20 October 2001 at 22:54.

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20 October 2001, 18:57	#2
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Never found Ultima 2 or 1 for the Amiga. But I remembered having a lot of problems with WinUAE because you needed to create a character disk, and disk saving would crash WinUAE. The only solution I found was in the end creating the character disk on a real amiga and then playing the game on Winfellow.

20 October 2001, 20:08	#3
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	@Drake1009 Your search has come to an end, I post Ultima1 +2 to THE ZONE in a minute @Splatman head over here : http://www.back2roots.org/Games/List/U/ and use the config posted for Ultima 1, also works for Ultima 2

20 October 2001, 20:46	#5
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	I looked for Ultima 1 and 2 before and came up empty handed. But at least it seems that there were a reason he couldn't play it huh?

20 October 2001, 20:50	#6
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Definitely.

20 October 2001, 21:08	#7
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	If you download both of Retroman's disks, you can play Ultima V afterwards It's only 2 disks? Ok I have it on the Amiga, but I can't remember how many disks it is. The C64 version takes 4-5 disks double sided.

20 October 2001, 21:43	#8
Splatman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Back of Beyond Age: 58 Posts: 60	Cheers V much. Only problem now is getting on the zone to get em! Teach to me belive what was posted on the AEN board, a!:laugh any chance of a mail of it until I can...

20 October 2001, 21:52	#9
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	@Splatman you can only see both disks of Ultima V on the ADF Zone as well as the file you sent me privately. Ultima V is quite common, you should be lucky to get it from somewhere else without problems

20 October 2001, 21:56	#10
morph72 Posts: n/a	To the best of my knowledge, Ultima I & II weren't released on the Amiga. We've had them in the TOSEC dat for a while, until we noticed that they were actually just disk 1 & 2 of Ultima V... There's a PD version of Ultima I for Amiga, however. Don't know how faithful it is to the original, haven't tried it personally.

20 October 2001, 22:03	#11
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	That's typical isn't it? There were Ultima 1-5 on the C64, which I was very close to buying as a bundle pack once but didn't really like the screenshots from the dungeon (Face it I was a dummy to not realize it was parts of the game and not entire games like that). And there's also an Ultima collection for the PC where you get Ultima 1-? (7 or 8?). Why has the Amiga been passed up for those two? As I see it the Amiga was a sort of middle step between the PC and C64. Many games were made on the PC (Or amiga) because the C64 wasn't good enough to play them, and the PC was sadly a computer which after C64 developing was dropped got most of the developing for some reason. If it was both on C64 and PC, why not Amiga? It's not because it's so old because then it wouldn't exist on the PC, and it's definately not because it's too new since it appeared on the C64. and later games did too.

20 October 2001, 22:09	#12
Splatman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Back of Beyond Age: 58 Posts: 60	OK. I have got a working Ultima 1 and I am dropping into andreas to post on the zone... As he said i can't get on the dam thing yet!! Can anyone mail me Ultima 2 or post it for when I can get into the zone and yes it was done on the Amiga, I played it....

20 October 2001, 22:49	#14
Splatman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Back of Beyond Age: 58 Posts: 60	I thought the give away bit was Press F3 for Ultima and when you select about it says Ultima 1 by Lord British.... Just not my night I guess. O well I got another post so only another 3 mill before I can get on the zone

20 October 2001, 23:34	#15
morph72 Posts: n/a	Well, just for the record, I have a compilation disk with a Black Monks demo and this PD Ultima version by Mike Shapiro here... according to the docs, the game is called "Ultima" and Zerg was the "developername"... I wonder what the correct title should be.

20 October 2001, 23:49	#16
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	See what happens when not using TOSEC ahhh, damn, that mean by any chance that I have deleted Ultima 1 and 2 and kept TWO copys of Ultima V Keep fingers crossed I have them on real disk anywhere, gonna search for them right now ....

21 October 2001, 00:00	#17
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,299	By no means am I an expert on the Ultima games, in fact I now Jack S**t about them, but looking through my collection of Amiga LSD doc disk's, I spotted on LSD026 soloutions for Ultima 1/2/3 and 4. Don't know if this means there were Amiga version's or not though. I think LSD002 also had some stuff about Ultima 1 on it.

21 October 2001, 00:02	#18
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, I know FOR SURE there is an ULTIMA 1 for Amiga, cause I played it a long time ago until the end and I´m pretty sure I also played Ultima 2, but thats a mistery until I find that damn disks

21 October 2001, 12:28	#19
Splatman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Back of Beyond Age: 58 Posts: 60	Just remembr to stick them in the zone if you find them. May be the only copy still in existance:hooooo Many thanks for the help either way.

14 February 2002, 10:55	#20
oldpx Posts: n/a	In the Ultima Collection cd, it clearly describes which versions of Ultima were released for which computer. I don't have it with me right now but I was surprised when I saw Ultima 1&2 were not released for amiga. They wouldn't make good amiga games though; not with that graphics so they may have needed to be improved greatly for the amiga market. Maybe origin preferred not to bother at all, or maybe they could not finance the development and marketing of amiga version at that time.

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