Color Saturation and Color Tint/Hue

Retro-Nerd · 21 March 2012, 19:44

Is it possible to add color saturation and color tint/hue to the Display silder for brightness/contrast/gamma? I would like to mimic the look of my Sony CRT TV. It's pretty close, but not the colors.

Leandro Jardim · 21 March 2012, 20:28

Great thing to add to WinUAE!

This would allow us to mimic the colors of PAL and NTSC screens...

Toni Wilen · 24 March 2012, 19:13

I think I didn't find good enough tint algorithm or something. I am sure I planned to implement it..

Leandro Jardim · 26 March 2012, 22:53

Thanks your reply Toni!

Retro-Nerd · 28 April 2012, 22:25

I've increased Contrast +40 and decreased Gamma -40. Looks pretty close to colors on my Sony TV. A bit too bright maybe, but good enough for me at the moment.

Leandro Jardim · 01 May 2012, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I've increased Contrast +40 and decreased Gamma -40. Looks pretty close to colors on my Sony TV. A bit too bright maybe, but good enough for me at the moment.

Looks nice!

If you use one of aperture masks that come with WinUAE you can make the image darker.

What are your settings of scanlines, please? Looks very realistic!

Retro-Nerd · 01 May 2012, 21:46

Normal D3D scanlines, try scanline transparency 20-30.

Leandro Jardim · 01 May 2012, 21:54

Thanks Retro-Nerd!

Marcuz · 02 May 2012, 10:30

A hue slider would be great... I know I've asked already in the past for it, and for the (I admit it, kinda pointless) emulation of the two buttons on the rear of the 1084S monitor that forced green monochrome and switched between cvbs/rgb/lca

But I would be content t ochange the hue, or the r, g, b values

turrican3 · 27 August 2017, 11:19

+ 1 for saturation
1st screen with saturation normal (winuae)
2nd +17% saturation with paint.net

nobody · 27 August 2017, 11:23

Shaders can do that now. Except if you want a sharp image with no artifacts.

turrican3 · 27 August 2017, 11:24

which shader nobody ???

nobody · 27 August 2017, 11:27

Crt-hyllian-low res for Winuae. It's on that thread with xbrz shaders
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=87030

turrican3 · 27 August 2017, 11:31

Thanks nobody

DamienD · 27 August 2017, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

+ 1 for saturation
1st screen with saturation normal (winuae)
2nd +17% saturation with paint.net

Arrrrrgh!!! My eyes, my eyes

turrican3 · 27 August 2017, 11:41

But they doesn't work with winuae !
But if it isn't too difficult perhaps tony could add this feature ???
Please Tony, i'm sure the result will be really great !!!
Only if you have time of course.

nobody · 27 August 2017, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

But they doesn't work with winuae !
But if it isn't too difficult perhaps tony could add this feature ???
Please Tony, i'm sure the result will be really great !!!
Only if you have time of course.

Some of the shaders there are for Winuae (fx extension).

turrican3 · 28 August 2017, 02:38

ok, perhaps i missed them but from what i read, you have to set by hand in the shaders files the saturation you want ???
And if i'm correct, it will be difficult for me to adjust the saturation for every games.
I always did a different config for each games and some needs more saturations and others doesn't need saturation at all.
But thank you nobody, i'll have a look.

edited : that's why i think saturation should be set with the gui, easier to use and can be changed for every game, like i changed the saturation
every time i launched a new game when i were young and i can't set it with nvidia tools because it will be for every games too... Not one by one.
I'm trying to have the best gfx possible for each games like each of you, we perhaps didn't have the same definition of what it should look but we have
the same goal. Sorry to have been so long. bye guys ;-).

Foebane · 28 August 2017, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Arrrrrgh!!! My eyes, my eyes

Agreed.

WTF is with those awful pictures, Turrican? Aside from the colour alterations, what HAVE you done to the pixels? Do you honestly run your Amiga emulation like this? It looks bloody AWFUL. Sorry, that's my opinion, but I prefer to see natural RGB as intended by the programmers WITHOUT distortion by dodgy TVs, no scanlines, no whatever-you've-done-to-those-pixels and as clean and precise an image as possible.

The Amiga was developed by FORWARD-THINKING geniuses, they would be dismayed if people wanted to view it on primitive CRTs.

nobody · 28 August 2017, 09:06

Man I hate those xbrz filters. Better use pixels directly, awful raw enormous blocky-have their own postal code than xbrz. Pixels never meant to look like oil painting.
Xbrz makes sense only in one scenario: PSX 3d low res material.

21 March 2012, 19:44	#1
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 12,388	Color Saturation and Color Tint/Hue Is it possible to add color saturation and color tint/hue to the Display silder for brightness/contrast/gamma? I would like to mimic the look of my Sony CRT TV. It's pretty close, but not the colors.

28 April 2012, 22:25	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 12,388	I've increased Contrast +40 and decreased Gamma -40. Looks pretty close to colors on my Sony TV. A bit too bright maybe, but good enough for me at the moment. Attached Thumbnails

27 August 2017, 11:19	#10
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 47 Posts: 3,903	+ 1 for saturation 1st screen with saturation normal (winuae) 2nd +17% saturation with paint.net Attached Thumbnails Last edited by turrican3; 27 August 2017 at 11:27.

28 August 2017, 02:38	#18
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 47 Posts: 3,903	ok, perhaps i missed them but from what i read, you have to set by hand in the shaders files the saturation you want ??? And if i'm correct, it will be difficult for me to adjust the saturation for every games. I always did a different config for each games and some needs more saturations and others doesn't need saturation at all. But thank you nobody, i'll have a look. edited : that's why i think saturation should be set with the gui, easier to use and can be changed for every game, like i changed the saturation every time i launched a new game when i were young and i can't set it with nvidia tools because it will be for every games too... Not one by one. I'm trying to have the best gfx possible for each games like each of you, we perhaps didn't have the same definition of what it should look but we have the same goal. Sorry to have been so long. bye guys ;-). Last edited by turrican3; 28 August 2017 at 02:45.

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21 March 2012, 20:28	#2
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 44 Posts: 1,461	Great thing to add to WinUAE! This would allow us to mimic the colors of PAL and NTSC screens...

24 March 2012, 19:13	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 48 Posts: 25,955	I think I didn't find good enough tint algorithm or something. I am sure I planned to implement it..

26 March 2012, 22:53	#4
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 44 Posts: 1,461	Thanks your reply Toni!

01 May 2012, 21:46	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 12,388	Normal D3D scanlines, try scanline transparency 20-30.

01 May 2012, 21:54	#8
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 44 Posts: 1,461	Thanks Retro-Nerd!

02 May 2012, 10:30	#9
Marcuz Wurk??? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 47 Posts: 5,301	A hue slider would be great... I know I've asked already in the past for it, and for the (I admit it, kinda pointless) emulation of the two buttons on the rear of the 1084S monitor that forced green monochrome and switched between cvbs/rgb/lca But I would be content t ochange the hue, or the r, g, b values

27 August 2017, 11:23	#11
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,415	Shaders can do that now. Except if you want a sharp image with no artifacts.

27 August 2017, 11:24	#12
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 47 Posts: 3,903	which shader nobody ???

27 August 2017, 11:27	#13
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,415	Crt-hyllian-low res for Winuae. It's on that thread with xbrz shaders http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=87030

27 August 2017, 11:31	#14
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 47 Posts: 3,903	Thanks nobody

27 August 2017, 11:41	#16
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 47 Posts: 3,903	But they doesn't work with winuae ! But if it isn't too difficult perhaps tony could add this feature ??? Please Tony, i'm sure the result will be really great !!! Only if you have time of course.

28 August 2017, 09:06	#20
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,415	Man I hate those xbrz filters. Better use pixels directly, awful raw enormous blocky-have their own postal code than xbrz. Pixels never meant to look like oil painting. Xbrz makes sense only in one scenario: PSX 3d low res material.

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