[Wip] Amos Professional X : Bring AGA to Amos Pro! - Page 2

Dunny · 16 January 2020, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

François Lionet is an admin on that FB group (as am I). He kicked Frédérik off and retroactively declared the Amos sources as GPL3. This not only threatens AmosPro X but also threatens the AmosFactory bugfix release as well.

Wait, what? Lionet kicked Frédérik off the group? That's a bit of a dick move.

I've not really had much contact with him back in the day, but lately he seemed to be a nice older dude with a passion for his original creation who had embarked on a journey to update it to a Javascript platform, all of which was quite charming. (Not that I personally would buy AMOS-for-PC as the Amiga is part of the whole AMOS coding deal in my eyes, but I guess others might).

Seems he's all about the money and is just seeing euro-signs everywhere now. Which is a great shame.

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In the meantime, one other member of the AmosFactory team and I am shifting our priorities to the Enhanced E Compiler based on ECX sources and largely compatible with the original AmigaE. Hopfully things will cool off on the Amos front.

Yep, this is not a good thing at all. We shall see what happens, I guess.

Samurai_Crow · 16 January 2020, 03:10

François is bipolar. He may just be on a manic high right now. Let's see if he cools off after a while.

Retro1234 · 16 January 2020, 15:05

This is terrible someone finally does AGA as everyone wanted in 2019 and now this.

Retro1234 · 16 January 2020, 15:06

Someone please PM the files

Samurai_Crow · 17 January 2020, 01:08

Update: Freddix (Frédéric) will rerelease his code as a closed source extension to an older version of AmosPro.

François is no longer on the AmosPro coders group on FB and is therefore not an admin there either.

Freddix' blocking on the group was an accident by another admin and NOT the work of François. The kicking out was, however Freddix has been readmitted now that François is no longer an admin.

Retro1234 · 17 January 2020, 15:55

Yeah I was going to say no one could stop him releasing a Extension or a Patch for the main executable.

IridiumFX · 17 January 2020, 21:38

To put things in context, wasn't the source made public domain? I thought Francois was not even the owner anymore, right ? I remember reading of a guy, Pietro Ghizzoni, to be the legal owner to the original source code. So, how can Francois slap a GPL3, retroactively, on something he should not own?
Please feel free to correct any point I may have gotten wrong or inaccurate

Samurai_Crow · 17 January 2020, 21:56

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Originally Posted by IridiumFX

To put things in context, wasn't the source made public domain? I thought Francois was not even the owner anymore, right ? I remember reading of a guy, Pietro Ghizzoni, to be the legal owner to the original source code. So, how can Francois slap a GPL3, retroactively, on something he should not own?
Please feel free to correct any point I may have gotten wrong or inaccurate

You might be right. François posted something to that effect this morning on one of his feeds. It may be under the license Pietro put on it when he released the AmosPro source and the rest is under ClickTeam's license.

Retro1234 · 01 May 2020, 20:53

Looks like François Lionet has officially released Amos source and this project is back on
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb...43738&forum=15

Samurai_Crow · 01 May 2020, 22:19

Indeed! François stated something to that effect on Facebook as well!

Retro1234 · 01 May 2020, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

Indeed! François stated something to that effect on Facebook as well!

Could you screenshot it, thanks.

Leander · 01 May 2020, 22:58

Really AWESOME freddix, thanks for your hard work and effort, very appreciated from my part too

Samurai_Crow · 01 May 2020, 23:39

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Originally Posted by Retro1234

Could you screenshot it, thanks.

It contained some passive-aggressive insults against Freddix, so no.

Retro1234 · 01 May 2020, 23:58

Ok thanks great news anyway.

Pyromania · 02 May 2020, 02:16

What’s the best implementation of AMOS Professional AGA?

Samurai_Crow · 02 May 2020, 02:28

@Pyromania

Freddix' version is the only one I know of for AGA.

kriz · 03 May 2020, 01:52

So for all wanting the link to the new AGA version: https://github.com/AmiDARK/Amos-Prof...l-AGA-Releases Info: http://amos-professional-aga.frederic-cordier.fr/ Some videos: http://amos-professional-aga.frederi...ier.fr/?videos

Korodny · 03 May 2020, 18:17

I have to say I'm not a big fan of keeping the sources of AMOS Pro AGA closed. I didn't witness all the FB drama, but that's just even more reason to put any new stuff under a copyleft license, no?

Hungry Horace · 03 May 2020, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Korodny

I have to say I'm not a big fan of keeping the sources of AMOS Pro AGA closed. I didn't witness all the FB drama, but that's just even more reason to put any new stuff under a copyleft license, no?

The AGA version will be under the relevant licence. AFAIK, it will also be open source, but simply may just be periodically uploaded.

supercruiser · 06 May 2020, 11:32

Hi.

Just wondering in terms of install?

Overwrite existing AMOS folder?

Or copy relevant S, Devs etc??

Get error running from source folder...

Any help appreciated.

SC

16 January 2020, 15:05	#23
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	This is terrible someone finally does AGA as everyone wanted in 2019 and now this. Last edited by Retro1234; 16 January 2020 at 15:11.

06 May 2020, 11:32	#40
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16 January 2020, 03:10	#22
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	François is bipolar. He may just be on a manic high right now. Let's see if he cools off after a while.

16 January 2020, 15:06	#24
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Someone please PM the files

17 January 2020, 01:08	#25
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	Update: Freddix (Frédéric) will rerelease his code as a closed source extension to an older version of AmosPro. François is no longer on the AmosPro coders group on FB and is therefore not an admin there either. Freddix' blocking on the group was an accident by another admin and NOT the work of François. The kicking out was, however Freddix has been readmitted now that François is no longer an admin.

17 January 2020, 15:55	#26
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Yeah I was going to say no one could stop him releasing a Extension or a Patch for the main executable.

17 January 2020, 21:38	#27
IridiumFX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: London Posts: 13	To put things in context, wasn't the source made public domain? I thought Francois was not even the owner anymore, right ? I remember reading of a guy, Pietro Ghizzoni, to be the legal owner to the original source code. So, how can Francois slap a GPL3, retroactively, on something he should not own? Please feel free to correct any point I may have gotten wrong or inaccurate

01 May 2020, 20:53	#29
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Looks like François Lionet has officially released Amos source and this project is back on https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb...43738&forum=15

01 May 2020, 22:19	#30
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	Indeed! François stated something to that effect on Facebook as well!

01 May 2020, 22:58	#32
Leander Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Catania Posts: 85	Really AWESOME freddix, thanks for your hard work and effort, very appreciated from my part too

01 May 2020, 23:58	#34
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Ok thanks great news anyway.

02 May 2020, 02:16	#35
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	What’s the best implementation of AMOS Professional AGA?

02 May 2020, 02:28	#36
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	@Pyromania Freddix' version is the only one I know of for AGA.

03 May 2020, 01:52	#37
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	So for all wanting the link to the new AGA version: https://github.com/AmiDARK/Amos-Prof...l-AGA-Releases Info: http://amos-professional-aga.frederic-cordier.fr/ Some videos: http://amos-professional-aga.frederi...ier.fr/?videos

03 May 2020, 18:17	#38
Korodny Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 812	I have to say I'm not a big fan of keeping the sources of AMOS Pro AGA closed. I didn't witness all the FB drama, but that's just even more reason to put any new stuff under a copyleft license, no?

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