Shadow Warrior for Amiga - Page 4

grond · 21 April 2021, 21:49

With regard to the Vampires, it might be worth testing it on the V500 which has the newest core. I'm pretty sure there was a change to the FPU in that core which means it should have the most recent FPU version.

TjLaZer · 22 April 2021, 02:28

040 version is working great on Vampire 2 A1200 AGA! Thanks!

Getting around 35 fps.

(in game hit T, type SWLOC, press <enter>)

TjLaZer · 22 April 2021, 03:07

I see the game can do 640x400/480 and uses DBLNTSC and DBLPAL modes, but it can't use regular NTSC and PAL. Is there a way to make it use NTSC 640x400 and PAL 640x512? They are faster than the ECS double scanned modes.

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 05:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by grond

With regard to the Vampires, it might be worth testing it on the V500 which has the newest core. I'm pretty sure there was a change to the FPU in that core which means it should have the most recent FPU version.

Thanks for the heads up. If anyone with a V500 can test this, let me know about the results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

I see the game can do 640x400/480 and uses DBLNTSC and DBLPAL modes, but it can't use regular NTSC and PAL. Is there a way to make it use NTSC 640x400 and PAL 640x512? They are faster than the ECS double scanned modes.

Interlaced modes are filtered out, as I found them to be too slow during testing, and they looked really bad. In hindsight maybe I should have removed resolutions above 320x240 for native chipset modes altogether, as they are not practical.

TjLaZer · 22 April 2021, 08:26

Well I found on ADoom running the native modes (NTSC 640x400) was noticeably faster than the ECS 640x400/480 modes.

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 08:32

Of course, I'm not debating that PAL is faster than DBLPAL for example, but for this game going above 320x240 in native modes will tank the framerate either way. I only recommend using higher resolutions on RTG.

TjLaZer · 22 April 2021, 08:49

It's not too bad, about 12 fps for ADoom at 640x400. I would like to see what a faster 68060 can do at this resolution. I only tried it at 66MHz. Would be nice if this was not filtered out for us to try. I don't use RTG on my 1200.

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 08:54

ADoom runs on a completely different engine. I have tried them on an 68060 at 85 MHz and it was unplayable, allowing 640x480 with DBLPAL is just an oversight.

utri007 · 22 April 2021, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

Interlaced modes are filtered out, as I found them to be too slow during testing, and they looked really bad. In hindsight maybe I should have removed resolutions above 320x240 for native chipset modes altogether, as they are not practical.

Not to arguing about performance, but for looking bad is not always true. I use LCD-TVs with all of my Amiga and they do flicker fix. So inter-laced modes doesn't look bad at all.

Nobby_UK · 22 April 2021, 15:34

Tried 640 x 400 on my Emulated 040 (@ 1251.9 MHz)

Looks OK, gives 50-70 fps --- But the Sound is a bit off ?

FYI log says:
Setting video mode 640x400 (8-bpp fullscreen)
Opened screen: 0x00069024 EURO:72Hz Productivity

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

Not to arguing about performance, but for looking bad is not always true. I use LCD-TVs with all of my Amiga and they do flicker fix. So inter-laced modes doesn't look bad at all.

Fair enough. I'm sure it looks alright with a flickerfixer.

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Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

Tried 640 x 400 on my Emulated 040 (@ 1251.9 MHz)

Looks OK, gives 50-70 fps --- But the Sound is a bit off ?

Could you record a short video of this problem? Maybe I can figure out what's wrong.

starship · 22 April 2021, 19:35

Plzz plzz Warpos

Apacher · 22 April 2021, 21:37

BSzili
About the music. The description says, I uploaded a WAV music pack into the Zone. Where is it?)

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by starship

Plzz plzz Warpos

I thought about it, but I know next to nothing about WarpOS. I'll leave this to the experts after I released the source code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apacher

BSzili
About the music. The description says, I uploaded a WAV music pack into the Zone. Where is it?)

I meant this Zone, I also updated the description.

Apacher · 22 April 2021, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

I meant this Zone, I also updated the description.

When you click on the link, it gives out something like this. What does it mean?

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apacher

When you click on the link, it gives out something like this. What does it mean?

If you haven't already, you can get access to The Zone! this way:
http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_...ezone_faq_item

Apacher · 22 April 2021, 22:11

BSzili
Thank you!!! downloaded, I will try on my amiga 1200 - 060 90 MHz :-)
how should these tracks lay in the game? in your folder or just at the root?

BSzili · 22 April 2021, 22:31

Nice! Just dump the wav files next to the game executable, no folder is needed.

utri007 · 22 April 2021, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

Nice! Just dump the wav files next to the game executable, no folder is needed.

Forgot to say, thanks! Have been fun to play this.

Apacher · 22 April 2021, 22:54

BSzili
Everything worked !!!!!! Uraaa, the music is in the game, so much more fun to play. Super. I'll shoot a video, post it here, show it)) THANKS !!!)

22 April 2021, 15:34	#70
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	Tried 640 x 400 on my Emulated 040 (@ 1251.9 MHz) Looks OK, gives 50-70 fps --- But the Sound is a bit off ? FYI log says: Setting video mode 640x400 (8-bpp fullscreen) Opened screen: 0x00069024 EURO:72Hz Productivity Last edited by Nobby_UK; 24 April 2021 at 07:13.

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21 April 2021, 21:49	#61
grond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 1,918	With regard to the Vampires, it might be worth testing it on the V500 which has the newest core. I'm pretty sure there was a change to the FPU in that core which means it should have the most recent FPU version.

22 April 2021, 02:28	#62
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	040 version is working great on Vampire 2 A1200 AGA! Thanks! Getting around 35 fps. (in game hit T, type SWLOC, press <enter>)

22 April 2021, 03:07	#63
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	I see the game can do 640x400/480 and uses DBLNTSC and DBLPAL modes, but it can't use regular NTSC and PAL. Is there a way to make it use NTSC 640x400 and PAL 640x512? They are faster than the ECS double scanned modes.

22 April 2021, 08:26	#65
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Well I found on ADoom running the native modes (NTSC 640x400) was noticeably faster than the ECS 640x400/480 modes.

22 April 2021, 08:32	#66
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Of course, I'm not debating that PAL is faster than DBLPAL for example, but for this game going above 320x240 in native modes will tank the framerate either way. I only recommend using higher resolutions on RTG.

22 April 2021, 08:49	#67
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	It's not too bad, about 12 fps for ADoom at 640x400. I would like to see what a faster 68060 can do at this resolution. I only tried it at 66MHz. Would be nice if this was not filtered out for us to try. I don't use RTG on my 1200.

22 April 2021, 08:54	#68
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	ADoom runs on a completely different engine. I have tried them on an 68060 at 85 MHz and it was unplayable, allowing 640x480 with DBLPAL is just an oversight.

22 April 2021, 19:35	#72
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 212	Plzz plzz Warpos

22 April 2021, 21:37	#73
Apacher Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ukraine Posts: 16	BSzili About the music. The description says, I uploaded a WAV music pack into the Zone. Where is it?)

22 April 2021, 22:11	#77
Apacher Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ukraine Posts: 16	BSzili Thank you!!! downloaded, I will try on my amiga 1200 - 060 90 MHz :-) how should these tracks lay in the game? in your folder or just at the root?

22 April 2021, 22:31	#78
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Nice! Just dump the wav files next to the game executable, no folder is needed.

22 April 2021, 22:54	#80
Apacher Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ukraine Posts: 16	BSzili Everything worked !!!!!! Uraaa, the music is in the game, so much more fun to play. Super. I'll shoot a video, post it here, show it)) THANKS !!!)

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