Killing Game Show - liquid rising too quickly

23 May 2007, 05:17

I've tried about 4-5 different dumps of the game, I'm running it on WinUAE 1.42, and no matter what I do the liquid is rising too fast. As proof if you try to watch the demo, instead of making it to near the end of the level like it's supposed to, it dies really early on because the liquid catches up to it.

Anybody know what's going on and how to fix it? Later levels are unbeatable because of this problem.

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm running it as an A500. I tried swapping PAL/NTSC but it dies at the exact same time, so that doesn't seem to solve it.

Editx2: Never mind, the WHDLoad version works perfectly. Hooray for bad dumps being all over the place. Arg.

sareks · 23 May 2007, 08:52

try a trained version

http://www.planetemu.net/

Konrad · 23 May 2007, 10:22

Ioti:
Would you please do me a favour and try the adfs with an older WinUAE version ? I have a similiar problem, but because it's with an whdload-installed game (Impossible Mission 2, Elevator too fast, everything else ok) I didn't look into it.

24 May 2007, 05:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by sareks

try a trained version

http://www.planetemu.net/

Every single version on there did the exact same thing. The ONLY one I've found that worked, with ANY version of WinUAE, was the WHDLoad version.

Not sure what on earth they broke when they ripped it, or what the emulator is doing that makes just those versions screw up, but it was pretty frustrating.

Toni Wilen · 24 May 2007, 08:42

Interesting. I don't think it is emulation speed problem because blitter settings have no effect and also whdload version works fine.

(only a guess)

Perhaps copy protection problem. Yes, it is cracked but patched copy protection can still cause problems if there are emulation bugs.

sareks · 24 May 2007, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ioti

Every single version on there did the exact same thing. The ONLY one I've found that worked, with ANY version of WinUAE, was the WHDLoad version.

Not sure what on earth they broke when they ripped it, or what the emulator is doing that makes just those versions screw up, but it was pretty frustrating.

ok, thanx 4 testing. maybe we should include these "faster running" versions of various games in the "The bad cracks / 100% working games thread"
corner of this site.

andreas · 25 May 2007, 15:10

About time to get this game preserved! (Indeed it is NOT yet, but I would've bet a tenner on it...)

Toni Wilen · 15 December 2007, 12:48

I was bored enough and tested every Tosec KGS (both real and emulated Amigas used).

Every Tosec version is badly cracked (Skid Row crack). Bad crack = protection check fails = liquid level rises too quickly..

Thanks to Psygore for explaining the protection check.

Konrad · 15 December 2007, 14:17

Good to know

. Now we just need someone to fix the crack...

Galahad/FLT · 15 December 2007, 22:34

Not preserved by SPS yet, otherwise I'd do it.

Frog · 15 December 2007, 22:44

strange... i remember very well having play to this game without problem.
Game came on 2 disk, 1 disk is intro and 2nd is the game.
If interested i could investigate to see if i still have the disk.

dlfrsilver · 15 December 2007, 22:47

yes it uses the special psygnosis MFM 1.5 format.

like Obitus, Nitro, and armour Geddon. that's the reason why the game is not
preserved yet....

Obitus has been butchered too....the crack is ugly

Retro-Nerd · 15 December 2007, 22:50

Is it possible to do a crack from the preinstalled WHDLoad disk images?

demoniac · 15 December 2007, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

yes it uses the special psygnosis MFM 1.5 format.

lObitus has been butchered too....the crack is ugly

What's wrong with the Razor 1911/Classic crack? I was able to finish it.

andreas · 16 December 2007, 01:01

demoniac you do not count

you're too skilled

demoniac · 16 December 2007, 03:27

Haha, things are much easier with trainers and maps.

Bolch · 16 December 2007, 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoniac

What's wrong with the Razor 1911/Classic crack? I was able to finish it.

Could you please tell where can I find this version?

demoniac · 16 December 2007, 08:50

Um, did you try searching Planet Emulation first?

dlfrsilver · 16 December 2007, 11:12

it means that you counter measured the bad prot crack by trainers....

nahhh it must be well done without trainers

Bolch · 16 December 2007, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoniac

Um, did you try searching Planet Emulation first?

Of course I did, but to no avail

23 May 2007, 05:17	#1
Ioti Posts: n/a	Killing Game Show - liquid rising too quickly (resolved) I've tried about 4-5 different dumps of the game, I'm running it on WinUAE 1.42, and no matter what I do the liquid is rising too fast. As proof if you try to watch the demo, instead of making it to near the end of the level like it's supposed to, it dies really early on because the liquid catches up to it. Anybody know what's going on and how to fix it? Later levels are unbeatable because of this problem. Edit: Just to clarify, I'm running it as an A500. I tried swapping PAL/NTSC but it dies at the exact same time, so that doesn't seem to solve it. Editx2: Never mind, the WHDLoad version works perfectly. Hooray for bad dumps being all over the place. Arg. Last edited by Ioti; 23 May 2007 at 07:21.

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23 May 2007, 08:52	#2
sareks Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 187	try a trained version http://www.planetemu.net/

23 May 2007, 10:22	#3
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Ioti: Would you please do me a favour and try the adfs with an older WinUAE version ? I have a similiar problem, but because it's with an whdload-installed game (Impossible Mission 2, Elevator too fast, everything else ok) I didn't look into it.

24 May 2007, 08:42	#5
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Interesting. I don't think it is emulation speed problem because blitter settings have no effect and also whdload version works fine. (only a guess) Perhaps copy protection problem. Yes, it is cracked but patched copy protection can still cause problems if there are emulation bugs.

25 May 2007, 15:10	#7
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	About time to get this game preserved! (Indeed it is NOT yet, but I would've bet a tenner on it...)

15 December 2007, 12:48	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	I was bored enough and tested every Tosec KGS (both real and emulated Amigas used). Every Tosec version is badly cracked (Skid Row crack). Bad crack = protection check fails = liquid level rises too quickly.. Thanks to Psygore for explaining the protection check.

15 December 2007, 14:17	#9
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Good to know . Now we just need someone to fix the crack...

15 December 2007, 22:34	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Not preserved by SPS yet, otherwise I'd do it.

15 December 2007, 22:44	#11
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	strange... i remember very well having play to this game without problem. Game came on 2 disk, 1 disk is intro and 2nd is the game. If interested i could investigate to see if i still have the disk.

15 December 2007, 22:47	#12
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	yes it uses the special psygnosis MFM 1.5 format. like Obitus, Nitro, and armour Geddon. that's the reason why the game is not preserved yet.... Obitus has been butchered too....the crack is ugly

15 December 2007, 22:50	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Is it possible to do a crack from the preinstalled WHDLoad disk images?

16 December 2007, 01:01	#15
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	demoniac you do not count you're too skilled

16 December 2007, 03:27	#16
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,686	Haha, things are much easier with trainers and maps.

16 December 2007, 08:50	#18
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,686	Um, did you try searching Planet Emulation first?

16 December 2007, 11:12	#19
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	it means that you counter measured the bad prot crack by trainers.... nahhh it must be well done without trainers

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