Roadshow

SuperFuryAnimal · 06 July 2021, 18:14

So is this prob the best way to connect to the interwebs on 2021??

Ive never really needed to connect an amiga to the net but i can see some advantages and never having done it before i dont know the options.

Google drives me to roadshow, is this a good choice??

Jope · 06 July 2021, 18:15

It's a fine choice.

crazyc · 06 July 2021, 18:36

Also I suggest using Roadie (on Aminet) as a front end for Roadshow.

kriz · 06 July 2021, 18:39

But if you need something today, download MiamiDX

Tech · 06 July 2021, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyc

Also I suggest using Roadie (on Aminet) as a front end for Roadshow.

Thanks for the tip!

Bought Roadshow in 2014, been very happy with it. Solid software.

walkero · 07 July 2021, 11:01

Roadshow is the best way to connect to the internet. If you have OS3.9, there is Genesis included, which you can test and see if it covers your requirements. Have in mind that Roadshow is the fastest TCP/IP for AmigaOS avaliable.

kriz · 07 July 2021, 15:55

Anyone done any benchmarks between the different stacks ?

Storm · 07 July 2021, 16:08

I have tried Genesis, MiamiDX and Roadshow. Roadshow is the best, for sure.

matt3k · 20 July 2021, 13:22

I tested roadshow years ago and it is the fastest with fast hardware.

Miami with nmi drivers was a good contender also, but not as fast.

I don't have the numbers handy but roadshow on a 80mhz 060 and xsurf 100 was really fast.

Mad-Matt · 20 July 2021, 13:32

Roadshow is the fastest... It just is

.

Some of my numbers taken from an older thread here on the forum "I'm using a pcmcia ethernet card (Genius ME3000IIse) via cnet.device. 1.9 and observed the following speeds with tcpspeed (Win10 Host). (cnet16 and tuboio versions just refuse to work or instantly crash the amiga) With memory set to 70ns I get 600 kB/s with Genesis and 730 K/b/s with Roadshow. Running at 50ns, Genesis gets 700 kB/s and Roadshow 770 kB/s So that's worst case and best case."

I have a 10mbit pci card via mediator in the Amiga atm but no results written down. But last i checked it easy managed to max out 10mbit with Roadshow. (I don't recall result with Genesis)

bni · 20 July 2021, 15:52

I have tried all the options that are out there and Roadshow is the only one that feels integrated in AmigaOS, and not like a separate application that you need to run.

BSzili · 20 July 2021, 17:47

Did anyone have a chance to set MiamiDX against Roadshow? I wonder how they compare in terms of speed.

nikosidis · 20 July 2021, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

Did anyone have a chance to set MiamiDX against Roadshow? I wonder how they compare in terms of speed.

Hi BSzili

I did.
Roadshow is about 30% faster when downloading.

nogginthenog · 20 July 2021, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

Did anyone have a chance to set MiamiDX against Roadshow? I wonder how they compare in terms of speed.

RoadShow is supported. Miami is not (for decades even). For me that is enough.

BSzili · 20 July 2021, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosidis

Hi BSzili

I did.
Roadshow is about 30% faster when downloading.

Thanks, that's pretty impressive!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

RoadShow is supported. Miami is not (for decades even). For me that is enough.

I don't really need support for MiamiDX, as "it works for me™".

nikosidis · 20 July 2021, 21:40

It is good to support Amiga development but this system is retro no matter what.
I have no problem with OS 3.1 and MiamiDX. Works good enough for my needs.
MiamiDX even comes with a GUI. Almost only thing I use Amiga for online is to FTP
stuff from my Linux server. Amiga files are not exactly big so even if MiamiDX is 30% slower
than Roadshow, it normally equals a few sec. extra.

Regarding upload, ping and other stuff I have no idea, but I did not feel Roadshow was 30% faster than MiamiDX
using a web-browser. I did not notice any difference at all.

modrobert · 20 July 2021, 23:22

No love for AmiTCP?

http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/AmiTCP-bin-30b2

(Source code here.)

I've been using this version for several years, works good, but have no idea how it compares to other TCP/IP stacks.

Phantasm · 21 July 2021, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by modrobert

No love for AmiTCP?

http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/AmiTCP-bin-30b2

(Source code here.)

I've been using this version for several years, works good, but have no idea how it compares to other TCP/IP stacks.

That is a very old version of AmiTCP.. I was using version 4.3 even back in the 90's (although it wasn't free)

modrobert · 21 July 2021, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantasm

That is a very old version of AmiTCP.. I was using version 4.3 even back in the 90's (although it wasn't free)

I guess that means it is well written, because it hasn't crashed on me so far. Also, I'm a big fan of software with source code available.

stairmand · 21 July 2021, 23:19

Would have been nice for TCP/IP to have been included in 3.2.

06 July 2021, 18:14	#1
SuperFuryAnimal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: UK Posts: 59	Roadshow So is this prob the best way to connect to the interwebs on 2021?? Ive never really needed to connect an amiga to the net but i can see some advantages and never having done it before i dont know the options. Google drives me to roadshow, is this a good choice??

20 July 2021, 13:32	#10
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	Roadshow is the fastest... It just is . Some of my numbers taken from an older thread here on the forum "I'm using a pcmcia ethernet card (Genius ME3000IIse) via cnet.device. 1.9 and observed the following speeds with tcpspeed (Win10 Host). (cnet16 and tuboio versions just refuse to work or instantly crash the amiga) With memory set to 70ns I get 600 kB/s with Genesis and 730 K/b/s with Roadshow. Running at 50ns, Genesis gets 700 kB/s and Roadshow 770 kB/s So that's worst case and best case." I have a 10mbit pci card via mediator in the Amiga atm but no results written down. But last i checked it easy managed to max out 10mbit with Roadshow. (I don't recall result with Genesis) Last edited by Mad-Matt; 20 July 2021 at 13:37.

20 July 2021, 21:40	#16
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,607	It is good to support Amiga development but this system is retro no matter what. I have no problem with OS 3.1 and MiamiDX. Works good enough for my needs. MiamiDX even comes with a GUI. Almost only thing I use Amiga for online is to FTP stuff from my Linux server. Amiga files are not exactly big so even if MiamiDX is 30% slower than Roadshow, it normally equals a few sec. extra. Regarding upload, ping and other stuff I have no idea, but I did not feel Roadshow was 30% faster than MiamiDX using a web-browser. I did not notice any difference at all. Last edited by nikosidis; 20 July 2021 at 21:46.

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06 July 2021, 18:15	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	It's a fine choice.

06 July 2021, 18:36	#3
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	Also I suggest using Roadie (on Aminet) as a front end for Roadshow.

06 July 2021, 18:39	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	But if you need something today, download MiamiDX

07 July 2021, 11:01	#6
walkero Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Dublin/Ireland Posts: 358	Roadshow is the best way to connect to the internet. If you have OS3.9, there is Genesis included, which you can test and see if it covers your requirements. Have in mind that Roadshow is the fastest TCP/IP for AmigaOS avaliable.

07 July 2021, 15:55	#7
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Anyone done any benchmarks between the different stacks ?

07 July 2021, 16:08	#8
Storm SYS64738 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 118	I have tried Genesis, MiamiDX and Roadshow. Roadshow is the best, for sure.

20 July 2021, 13:22	#9
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	I tested roadshow years ago and it is the fastest with fast hardware. Miami with nmi drivers was a good contender also, but not as fast. I don't have the numbers handy but roadshow on a 80mhz 060 and xsurf 100 was really fast.

20 July 2021, 15:52	#11
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	I have tried all the options that are out there and Roadshow is the only one that feels integrated in AmigaOS, and not like a separate application that you need to run.

20 July 2021, 17:47	#12
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Did anyone have a chance to set MiamiDX against Roadshow? I wonder how they compare in terms of speed.

20 July 2021, 23:22	#17
modrobert old bearded fool Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangkok Age: 56 Posts: 775	No love for AmiTCP? http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/AmiTCP-bin-30b2 (Source code here.) I've been using this version for several years, works good, but have no idea how it compares to other TCP/IP stacks.

21 July 2021, 23:19	#20
stairmand Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Cornwall. Posts: 51	Would have been nice for TCP/IP to have been included in 3.2.

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