Once more a too fast WHDLoad game :(

Kristian95 · 19 September 2007, 20:32

I previously suggested that the speed of the dogfight scenes in Wings were going too fast on my A1200 030 40MHz using WHDLoad compared to running it on a standard A500.

I have now found yet one more game which is actually close to unplayable due to being sped up too much on that A1200 system, namely Battlehawks 1942... does anyone else experience this too?? Is there a way to slow it down?? I hope so 'cause soon I will not have my A1200 anymore but an A4000T with a 060 / PPC (not slower hehehe)

Mad-Matt · 19 September 2007, 20:34

there is two slaves for that game. one which uses fast ram and the other not. should fix ya speed issue

Kristian95 · 20 September 2007, 08:10

ah, ok.... I guess the one in KG's pack uses fast ram ?? Where can I find the other slave / version ??

Cheers mate

Galahad/FLT · 20 September 2007, 08:18

http://www.whdload.de/games/BattleHawks1942.lha

killergorilla · 20 September 2007, 15:18

this game isn't in my packs yet...

i'll add both versions to the next one though.

Galahad/FLT · 20 September 2007, 17:29

Ahem, don't you owe everyone a single game pack?

*cough* Fast Lane *Cough*

killergorilla · 20 September 2007, 18:22

The slave isn't on the whdload site so I can't include it in the packs

Retro-Nerd · 20 September 2007, 19:33

No archive upload correction in the last five years for Fast Lane? Never noticed the Wolfchild slave inside this install.

Kristian95 · 20 September 2007, 22:21

btw, since Wings combats run too fast in the current WHDLoad version might it be that it would run at a more appropriate speed if it was made in a "don't use Fastmem" version ?? just a thought

Btw, thanks KG, happy to hear that Battlehawks 1942 (both versions) will be a part of the coming pack

Love that game!!

Galahad/FLT · 20 September 2007, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

No archive upload correction in the last five years for Fast Lane? Never noticed the Wolfchild slave inside this install.

Yeah, popular game huh?

Mad-Matt · 20 September 2007, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian95

btw, since Wings combats run too fast in the current WHDLoad version might it be that it would run at a more appropriate speed if it was made in a "don't use Fastmem" version ?? just a thought

maybe the nocache tooltype would help slow it down ?

Kristian95 · 21 September 2007, 21:23

that rings a bell, how I think I tried it with no success.... but if you could remind me how I use that tooltype when running Wings on my A1200 using WHDLoad I can retest it to make sure

Kristian95 · 04 October 2007, 15:02

Ok, finally I got the A1200 fired up...

Tried both:

nommu
&
nocache

I didn't register any change in 3D combat speed.... it's still faster than it originally was on an A500..... I hope there is some other way to get the original speed on a beefed up Amiga

Retro-Nerd · 04 October 2007, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian95

Ok, finally I got the A1200 fired up...

Tried both:

nommu
&
nocache

I didn't register any change in 3D combat speed.... it's still faster than it originally was on an A500..... I hope there is some other way to get the original speed on a beefed up Amiga

Maybe it's normal, who knows. The A1200 030 renderings in 2D/3D are much faster as on an A500.
Even with the Slow slave the game needs some fastmem for preloading, could this be the problem?

Quote:

SLOW Game needs 0.5 MB Of Chipmem & 2.0MB of Fastmem (for preload option)

Kristian95 · 04 October 2007, 18:47

alas my expertise with Amigas is well below this

I still love the machine and OS though

I hope someone with more knowledge of the system can figure this one out

Galahad/FLT · 04 October 2007, 21:08

Battlehawks is indeed quicker on an A1200 even with the slow slave, there is nothing that can be done about this. I wasn't aware it was significantly quicker to make it unplayable.

Are you 100% sure that the slow slave was picked? Because the fast slave is considerably quicker, in fact its so quick as to be unplayable.

Kristian95 · 09 October 2007, 19:18

I don't know which slave it has, and it's been so long since I found it on-line that I can't remember where I got it from.... crossing my fingers for KG's coming pack where both slave versions are included

Retro-Nerd · 09 October 2007, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian95

I don't know which slave it has, and it's been so long since I found it on-line that I can't remember where I got it from.... crossing my fingers for KG's coming pack where both slave versions are included

Grab the WHDLoad patch with both slaves here:

http://www.whdload.de/games/B-Ba.html

Kristian95 · 10 October 2007, 15:23

thanks for the link

I must confess I've never applied the WHDLoad patches to a game myself.... and I don't own an original copy of Battlehawks 1942 either. I'll wait patiently for KG's pack

Retro-Nerd · 10 October 2007, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian95

thanks for the link

I must confess I've never applied the WHDLoad patches to a game myself.... and I don't own an original copy of Battlehawks 1942 either. I'll wait patiently for KG's pack

There is no need to install it again.

FAST slave = 1540 bytes
SLOW slave = 1512 bytes

Copy/overwrite the attached file to your game-folder, if you are using the FAST slave, and tell us what happens.

19 September 2007, 20:32	#1
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Once more a too fast WHDLoad game :( I previously suggested that the speed of the dogfight scenes in Wings were going too fast on my A1200 030 40MHz using WHDLoad compared to running it on a standard A500. I have now found yet one more game which is actually close to unplayable due to being sped up too much on that A1200 system, namely Battlehawks 1942... does anyone else experience this too?? Is there a way to slow it down?? I hope so 'cause soon I will not have my A1200 anymore but an A4000T with a 060 / PPC (not slower hehehe)

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19 September 2007, 20:34	#2
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	there is two slaves for that game. one which uses fast ram and the other not. should fix ya speed issue

20 September 2007, 08:10	#3
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	ah, ok.... I guess the one in KG's pack uses fast ram ?? Where can I find the other slave / version ?? Cheers mate

20 September 2007, 08:18	#4
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	http://www.whdload.de/games/BattleHawks1942.lha

20 September 2007, 15:18	#5
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	this game isn't in my packs yet... i'll add both versions to the next one though.

20 September 2007, 17:29	#6
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Ahem, don't you owe everyone a single game pack? cough Fast Lane Cough

20 September 2007, 18:22	#7
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	The slave isn't on the whdload site so I can't include it in the packs

20 September 2007, 19:33	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	No archive upload correction in the last five years for Fast Lane? Never noticed the Wolfchild slave inside this install.

20 September 2007, 22:21	#9
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	btw, since Wings combats run too fast in the current WHDLoad version might it be that it would run at a more appropriate speed if it was made in a "don't use Fastmem" version ?? just a thought Btw, thanks KG, happy to hear that Battlehawks 1942 (both versions) will be a part of the coming pack Love that game!!

21 September 2007, 21:23	#12
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	that rings a bell, how I think I tried it with no success.... but if you could remind me how I use that tooltype when running Wings on my A1200 using WHDLoad I can retest it to make sure

04 October 2007, 15:02	#13
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Ok, finally I got the A1200 fired up... Tried both: nommu & nocache I didn't register any change in 3D combat speed.... it's still faster than it originally was on an A500..... I hope there is some other way to get the original speed on a beefed up Amiga

04 October 2007, 18:47	#15
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	alas my expertise with Amigas is well below this I still love the machine and OS though I hope someone with more knowledge of the system can figure this one out

04 October 2007, 21:08	#16
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Battlehawks is indeed quicker on an A1200 even with the slow slave, there is nothing that can be done about this. I wasn't aware it was significantly quicker to make it unplayable. Are you 100% sure that the slow slave was picked? Because the fast slave is considerably quicker, in fact its so quick as to be unplayable.

09 October 2007, 19:18	#17
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	I don't know which slave it has, and it's been so long since I found it on-line that I can't remember where I got it from.... crossing my fingers for KG's coming pack where both slave versions are included

10 October 2007, 15:23	#19
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	thanks for the link I must confess I've never applied the WHDLoad patches to a game myself.... and I don't own an original copy of Battlehawks 1942 either. I'll wait patiently for KG's pack

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