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They should support accelerators in all their prods | 35 | 45.45% | |
They should only target stock Amigas, let the WHD team fix the gltiches | 36 | 46.75% | |
Hardware manufacturers should enable a way for devs to disable their product programmatically | 5 | 6.49% | |
They should go to another platform like SNES/MD/NEOGEO/C64/ZX | 1 | 1.30% | |
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02 March 2021, 16:49 | #161 | |
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This is all about fun, that is why most of the developers do this. Testing on non standard configs, and non real Amiga hardware is NOT Fun. Can we start a thread up, where you show us how to do a OS running parallax scroller. We all still waiting to learn from you. |
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02 March 2021, 16:50 | #162 | |
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You mean in the above example given by mcgeezer it will take hundreds of hours to run the executable in UAE, note the problem and then find that he should first have done a loop waiting for line (x-1) and then for line(x)? Or use WaitTOF() from graphics.library?
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02 March 2021, 16:59 | #166 | |
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Come learn to develop on the Amiga, do not worry if you game does not run on everything, people will just call it shit, and say you're a bad coder. Fuck it, lets all moved to develop on a megadrive, leave the Amiga for people like you! |
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02 March 2021, 17:02 | #167 |
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Yes, but I have never called myself a good or bad coder, or called anyone else out on their efforts. I have worked in software for 25 years, and met many coders. The work by most on here is well above average, if not expert, to brand them with bad coder when you have supplied nothing yourself or even told us of your experience is just darn rude.
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02 March 2021, 17:34 | #168 |
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02 March 2021, 17:44 | #170 | |
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02 March 2021, 18:04 | #171 | |
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Which was readily apparent from your comment about testing game code across all AmigaOS versions: you clearly do not know how little OS-involvement it takes to cleanly code a game. This even more so than in the early 90s when we couldn't be sure the hardware registers were going to stay in the same place forever since there won't be any new Amigas anyway.
There is good startup code available for allocating what you need (memory, blitter, sound channels). This functionality has been the same forever. There is no reason why AllocMem() would yield different results on say kickstart 1.2 or 3.9. I also wrote OS-compliant self-modifying code when I made a 3D routine and ran out of processor registers (I put the constant-per-frame values into the immediates of the instructions). Quote:
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Options in poll are too restrictive, but the entire question is a bit ridiculous. There is no way to support every possible configuration especially with something as diverse as the Amiga. And we are very lucky that ANYONE is developing anything for the Amiga at this point. A developer should code to a particular standard whether that be abog standard Amiga 500, or an Amiga 1200 etc, probably based on chipset and call it good. As long as they fully support what they say it is supposed to run on all is good. Now if they say it runs on an a1200 and it doesn't then you have something to complain about, but no one can code a game that would run on any and all configurations. Hell if that were the case then why have different configs at all if it looks and acts the same on all setups? And conversely for the folks that will say it should run on all configs no matter what, then you are asking devs to code 15 different varieties of the same game and that is totally unreasonable.
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What microchips have you developed ? |
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I have not called anyone out, or said anything about what I have done. You have gone on about how things are done, how you have done them correctly, and have work out there but refuse to share. How is this a dick size comprasion lol, I have done nothing in Amiga code since the 90s. You seem to have a real attitude, are you ok?
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This thread has just confirmed to me that I was right to drop the Amiga project I was working on.
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Hence why when I was a GMod I banned grond after a very heated "Vampire illegality" thread where he was very vocal and threatening towards EAB. ...but he somehow got it reversed a month or so afterwards and says "I did nothing wrong" Give me a break... you're displaying the same characteristics in this thread. Did you stop to notice that it's just you that are getting developers' backs up and causing arguments Last edited by DamienD; 02 March 2021 at 19:52. |
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In theory you might be right. In real life, you will crash hard with this attitude. And that's the reason it's hard for me to take your talk serious here. It's obvious you don't have the experience of developing and testing on a wide range of Amiga chipsets, configs and mediums. Quote:
Just create what you want to create and screw those people who can only theorize and get nothing done themselves. |
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