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Merlin there are a lot of workarounds to what you propose anyway while for the normal user these would be unneeded obstacles.
there is no actual need for such actions anyway as explained above, and watermarks simply protect the work of the HOL team as they are supposed to do. i really don't see any problem |
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It could mean either temporarily banning the IP for the remainder of the day or slowing the bandwidth down. Can you throttle bandwidth to a user from your site? @ marco I am not trying to propose an unrealistic solution, I am suggesting that there are alternatives to total lockdown, that's all, I am trying to get people to think wider... |
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In fact, I have said that the original copyright is owned by the original publishers and developers - this is one layer of copyright protection along with the HOL's own copyright and Database Right. Quote:
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I will keep that in mind, along with the rumours of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Last edited by CodyJarrett; 03 May 2008 at 17:27. |
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The watermarks protect our work and enforce our Database Right as well as, conceivably our copyright in the selection and arrangement of the content. Right, great. |
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However, what is interesting is that of the people that we have been in touch with there have never been any problems and they are generally happy to see their work remembered and catalogued. Perversely the only problems come from people who don't actually own the copyright. Furthermore it is the responsibility of the creator or an appointed third party to take steps to protect their own copyright and not a self-appointed person on an Internet forum. Quote:
1) Original copyright subsists in the scans and screenshots with the original creator/publisher/developer. 2) An additional HOL copyright subsists in the unique chosing of a particular screengrab from the billions of possible screengrabs. 3) A further HOL copyright subsists in the arrangement of screenshots and material for each entry. 4) Another HOL copyright subsists in the database information - some of which is original to the HOL (e.g. custom genre types) and some of which is general (e.g. years of release). 5) The Database Right gives additional protection to the hard work involved in the database. Quote:
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Then avoid unfounded accusations of thievery in the future. Last edited by CodyJarrett; 29 April 2008 at 12:06. |
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Where have I claimed ownership of public domain data? There are actually other sites with similar data because they have similar aims and are databases of Amiga games. Quote:
1) Original copyright subsists in the scans and screenshots with the original creator/publisher/developer. 2) An additional HOL copyright subsists in the unique chosing of a particular screengrab from the billions of possible screengrabs. 3) A further HOL copyright subsists in the arrangement of screenshots and material for each entry. 4) Another HOL copyright subsists in the database information - some of which is original to the HOL (e.g. custom genre types) and some of which is general (e.g. years of release). 5) The Database Right gives additional protection to the hard work involved in the database. |
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not to add gas on the fire, but those would be derivative works so they could not be copyrighted anyway --- could you guys take this copyright issues not as the armageddon, now? |
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yes, but you can arrange it only because you have it and you have it because someone created it. i'm just sayin that the copyright for choosing an image among the thousand (even from a cinematic experience) on wich a copyright exists, cannot stand, not that creativity there is not involved: that's the reason i said derivative.
derivative works are not allowed by copyright, to an extent. for the rest i agree with your points |
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My point is that there are specific inclusions into the Intellectual Property statutes for databases. And the originality test is:
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Cody, again, i do not contest the database ownership, never have: but if the database arrange content on which you don't have copyright, as in this case, you cannot claim:
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however, i don't see attacks to HOL happening soon about these technicalities |
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