SmartFileSystem And 20GB

02 July 2002, 06:35

Hi all
i did install SFS and followed readme instruction but still cannot access a full capacity of the 20gb Hard disk ..

Standard a1200 2mb
anyone success with SFS on 20gb Hard disk
Please i need help ...

and many thanx

RetroMan · 02 July 2002, 10:47

Hm, I only got a 10GB HD with SFS but it works ok

How many GB are you able to access ? Did you try to make more than one partition ?

@UAE · 02 July 2002, 11:27

hi RetroMan

i can access just 4Mb only ..
i did every thing as the Readme .. and its not easy also ..
is there other easier Application

thanx

RetroMan · 02 July 2002, 12:25

Well, there is PFS, but since it´s commercial I´ve not used it yet ! On the other hand you can also use FFS and a patch for HD´s bigger 4GB or the FFS from OS 3.9 (which is allready patched) !

thomas · 02 July 2002, 17:22

If HDToolbox does not let you partition more than 4GB of the hard disk, there is nothing SFS can do. It is the hard disk that does only offer 4GB. Check the jumpers on the back, most drives have one that restrict the size to 4GB for work with old IDE controllers.

rgen · 02 July 2002, 21:53

Your must have a device driver that supports the space above 4GB. The built in scsi.device 40.xx of Kickstart 3.1 does not support this. Use either idefix or scsi.device v43+.

@UAE · 03 July 2002, 11:45

so .. where to find the scsi.device latest version ..
i did search on aminet .. could not found it ..
any other files required?
many thanx

thomas · 03 July 2002, 17:05

Get OS3.9 (which includes scsi.device V44) http://www.amiga.com/3.9/
scsi.device V43 is beta and does not work since January 1st, 2000.

Which version of SFS do you use ? Versions up to 1.84 should work with scsi.device V40, too. http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/

@UAE · 03 July 2002, 20:42

its the latest version ..
and wb3.1

Paradroid90 · 27 October 2007, 23:33

Hi all,

On the hunt for more info on my amiga project !!!!

Got an olde 20gb IDE 3.5 HD from a PC but cant create more than two partitions of 4gb each totalling 8gb. But when i use tool box in O.S 3.5 it can see that its a 20gb drive----well a 18.6gb drive lol ( god only thought that happened in windows lol) How can i format and prep the HD to see the full capacity of the drive. Also could i format an 80gb drive in the same manor. Im sure with everyones help i can get more than 8GB from the drive.

Thanks

Para

thomas · 28 October 2007, 09:44

Quote:

How can i format and prep the HD to see the full capacity of the drive.

Search the documentation of your hdd for the total number of blocks a.k.a number of user sectors a.k.a high(est) LBA (logical block address).

Then run HDToolbox, go to "Install Drive" and increase the number of cylinders until the total number of blocks calculated by HDToolbox matches that of the HDD. All partitions you already created will be deleted by that.

Note that all bootable partitions must be smaller than 4GB and inside the first 4GB of the drive.

Note that all partitions which are accessed by unsuitable software (like Movieshop, ShapeShifter, PC-Task, DiskSalv and many more) must be inside the first 4GB of the drive.

Quote:

it can see that its a 20gb drive----well a 18.6gb drive lol ( god only thought that happened in windows lol)

Manufacturers specify metrical gigabytes (GB) while programs usually display binary gigabytes (GiB).

Quote:

Also could i format an 80gb drive in the same manor.

Yes, you can. The next limit is 128 GiB (~ 137 GB).

essence25 · 23 September 2008, 17:31

What is the difference between SFS 1.84 (30.10.99) and SFS 1.279 (23.12.2007) ?
Can either one be used on KS 3.0 and WB 3.0 ?
thanks

thomas · 24 September 2008, 09:45

Both versions should work with Kick 3.0. The older one supports HD_SCSICMD which means that it can access up to 7.87 GB without a patch for scsi.device. This support was removed in the newer version.

Additionally the latest version needs at least a 68020, not sure about the older version.

rkauer · 24 September 2008, 18:34

My concern, too. Where did you find the older version? I want to test it with a 68000 processor to see if it works on a "spacefull" 340Mb 2.5" IDE HD.

Of course I report back.

thomas · 24 September 2008, 20:21

Old homepage: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS/
Old download: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS184.lha

NovaCoder · 25 September 2008, 01:17

Sorry to ask a silly question but where can you find scsi.device? I did I search on my system and couldn't find it anyway (OS 3.9)....I thought I'd find it under Devs?

rkauer · 25 September 2008, 01:57

Nope, it is loaded by the Amiga from the ROM.

NovaCoder · 25 September 2008, 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

Nope, it is loaded by the Amiga from the ROM.

So how do you find which version you're running?

That means that to use a newer version you have to have something in your start-sequence to replace the ROM one. I noticed in mine (OS 3.9) it has a command for skipping the scsi.device update but couldn't see where it is actually loading the new version.

rkauer · 25 September 2008, 02:16

Type (no quotes) "version SCSI.device".

NovaCoder · 25 September 2008, 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

Type (no quotes) "version SCSI.device".

Thanks

02 July 2002, 06:35	#1
@winuae Posts: n/a	SmartFileSystem And 20GB Hi all i did install SFS and followed readme instruction but still cannot access a full capacity of the 20gb Hard disk .. Standard a1200 2mb anyone success with SFS on 20gb Hard disk Please i need help ... and many thanx

27 October 2007, 23:33	#10
Paradroid90 Open Source Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 134	Using a 20gb Hard Drive with os.3.5 Hi all, On the hunt for more info on my amiga project !!!! Got an olde 20gb IDE 3.5 HD from a PC but cant create more than two partitions of 4gb each totalling 8gb. But when i use tool box in O.S 3.5 it can see that its a 20gb drive----well a 18.6gb drive lol ( god only thought that happened in windows lol) How can i format and prep the HD to see the full capacity of the drive. Also could i format an 80gb drive in the same manor. Im sure with everyones help i can get more than 8GB from the drive. Thanks Para

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02 July 2002, 10:47	#2
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hm, I only got a 10GB HD with SFS but it works ok How many GB are you able to access ? Did you try to make more than one partition ?

02 July 2002, 11:27	#3
@UAE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dubai UAE Posts: 160	hi RetroMan i can access just 4Mb only .. i did every thing as the Readme .. and its not easy also .. is there other easier Application thanx

02 July 2002, 12:25	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, there is PFS, but since it´s commercial I´ve not used it yet ! On the other hand you can also use FFS and a patch for HD´s bigger 4GB or the FFS from OS 3.9 (which is allready patched) !

02 July 2002, 17:22	#5
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	If HDToolbox does not let you partition more than 4GB of the hard disk, there is nothing SFS can do. It is the hard disk that does only offer 4GB. Check the jumpers on the back, most drives have one that restrict the size to 4GB for work with old IDE controllers.

02 July 2002, 21:53	#6
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	Your must have a device driver that supports the space above 4GB. The built in scsi.device 40.xx of Kickstart 3.1 does not support this. Use either idefix or scsi.device v43+.

03 July 2002, 11:45	#7
@UAE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dubai UAE Posts: 160	so .. where to find the scsi.device latest version .. i did search on aminet .. could not found it .. any other files required? many thanx

03 July 2002, 17:05	#8
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	Get OS3.9 (which includes scsi.device V44) http://www.amiga.com/3.9/ scsi.device V43 is beta and does not work since January 1st, 2000. Which version of SFS do you use ? Versions up to 1.84 should work with scsi.device V40, too. http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/

03 July 2002, 20:42	#9
@UAE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dubai UAE Posts: 160	its the latest version .. and wb3.1

23 September 2008, 17:31	#12
essence25 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 15	What is the difference between SFS 1.84 (30.10.99) and SFS 1.279 (23.12.2007) ? Can either one be used on KS 3.0 and WB 3.0 ? thanks

24 September 2008, 09:45	#13
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	Both versions should work with Kick 3.0. The older one supports HD_SCSICMD which means that it can access up to 7.87 GB without a patch for scsi.device. This support was removed in the newer version. Additionally the latest version needs at least a 68020, not sure about the older version.

24 September 2008, 18:34	#14
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	My concern, too. Where did you find the older version? I want to test it with a 68000 processor to see if it works on a "spacefull" 340Mb 2.5" IDE HD. Of course I report back.

24 September 2008, 20:21	#15
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	Old homepage: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS/ Old download: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS184.lha

25 September 2008, 01:17	#16
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,405	Sorry to ask a silly question but where can you find scsi.device? I did I search on my system and couldn't find it anyway (OS 3.9)....I thought I'd find it under Devs?

25 September 2008, 01:57	#17
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Nope, it is loaded by the Amiga from the ROM.

25 September 2008, 02:16	#19
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Type (no quotes) "version SCSI.device".

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