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Old 24 April 2024, 22:21   #661
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Uploaded to The Zone: RygarsNewDumps.7z

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American Poker (1993)(Mirage Software).7z + Codes
American Poker (1993)(Mirage Software)[a2].7z + Codes


All other dumps in this post: https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...&postcount=656 couldn't be verified against other dumps
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Old 26 April 2024, 17:52   #662
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Checking some of Risc's dumps:

American Poker (1993)(Mirage Software) [BAD DUMP] - Disk needs both sides cleaning as tracks 0.1 & 22.0 show 1 bad sector, if those 2 tracks can be re-dumped and are clean then it will be identical to two of rygars dumps!!

American Poker - Data Dysk (1993)(Mirage Software) - Needs side 0 cleaning as track 2.0 shows sector 10 as bad!!

AmiSufler II (1997)(Twin Spark Soft) - Not found any dump/ADF that is identical, the ADF in the Bird Collection has many tracks different but the files on the disk appear to be the same, this dump also shows as a possible doscopy and there is 1 lost file!

F-29 Retaliator (1990)(Mirage Software) - Comparing this dump to uicr0Bees dump only Disk 1 is different as tracks 79.0 & 79.1 are different! Comparing Risc's Disk 1 to SPS #0022 Disk 1 shows tracks 79.0 & 79.1 are identical, tracks 0.0 to 9.0 are different but seeing as two polish dumps are identical on those tracks then Risc's Disk 1 looks to be original! Both risc's and uicr0Bee's Disk 2 are identical but show track 0.0 different when compared to SPS #0022 Disk 2!!

Pitagoras v2.4 Szkola Podstawowa klasy V,VI,VII,VIII (1994)(Twin Spark Soft) [BAD DUMP] Needs both sides cleaning and redumping, Side 0 has lots of bad tracks, Side 1 shows first 9 tracks that need cleaning!

Polonista (1995)(Faterbit)(PL)(Disk 1 of 3) Comparing Disk 1 to AdamZeku & rygar's Disk 1 tracks 40.0 & 42.0 are different, AdamZeku & rygars Disk 1 are identical! Disk 2 & Disk 3 of AdamZeku & rygar's dumps are also identical when compared as ADF, so all 3 disks of Polonista from AdamZeku & rygar are identical!

Total Football (1996)(Mirage Software) - Comparing an ADF of Disk 1 to uicr0Bee's Disk 1 and SPS #0154 shows they are all identical! Comparing Disk 2 to SPS #0154 track 79.1 sector 6 is corrupt! Disk 3 needs cleaning as there are several bad tracks and comparing to SPS #0154 shows tracks 12.0, 13.0 & 22.0 different as they are the bad tracks!!

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Old 26 April 2024, 20:13   #663
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Checking some of Risc's dumps:

American Poker (1993)(Mirage Software) [BAD DUMP] - Disk needs both sides cleaning as tracks 0.1 & 22.0 show 1 bad sector, if those 2 tracks can be re-dumped and are clean then it will be identical to two of rygars dumps!!

American Poker - Data Dysk (1993)(Mirage Software) - Needs side 0 cleaning as track 2.0 shows sector 10 as bad!!

F-29 Retaliator (1990)(Mirage Software) - Comparing this dump to uicr0Bees dump only Disk 1 is different as tracks 79.0 & 79.1 are different! Comparing Risc's Disk 1 to SPS #0022 Disk 1 shows tracks 79.0 & 79.1 are identical, tracks 0.0 to 9.0 are different but seeing as two polish dumps are identical on those tracks then Risc's Disk 1 looks to be original! Both risc's and uicr0Bee's Disk 2 are identical but show track 0.0 different when compared to SPS #0022 Disk 2!!

Polonista (1995)(Faterbit)(PL)(Disk 1 of 3) Comparing Disk 1 to AdamZeku & rygar's Disk 1 tracks 40.0 & 42.0 are different, AdamZeku & rygars Disk 1 are identical! Disk 2 & Disk 3 of AdamZeku & rygar's dumps are also identical when compared as ADF, so all 3 disks of Polonista from AdamZeku & rygar are identical!

Total Football (1996)(Mirage Software) - Comparing an ADF of Disk 1 to uicr0Bee's Disk 1 and SPS #0154 shows they are all identical! Comparing Disk 2 to SPS #0154 track 79.1 sector 6 is corrupt! Disk 3 needs cleaning as there are several bad tracks and comparing to SPS #0154 shows tracks 12.0, 13.0 & 22.0 different as they are the bad tracks!!

Thank you a lot for such great analyze. I'll ask for cleaning.
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Old 26 April 2024, 20:14   #664
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New Risc's dumps

A-Word 3.0 (1993)(Alderan)
AntyVirus (1993)(Alderan)[aka Pakiet Programów Antywirusowych Pubic Domain v1.5]
Chemia 2.0 (1992)(Alderan)
ELSAT Hard Disk Kit (1993)(Elsat s.c.)
Lazarus (1995)(TimSoft) [Disk 3 MIA]
Slownik Polski v1.2 (1993)(Alderan)
Turbo-Board - zestaw programów pomocniczych (1997)(GIFT)
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Old 27 April 2024, 12:32   #665
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Uploaded to The Zone: F-29 Retaliator (1990)(Mirage Software).7z

Made from Risc's dump and seems to be unmodified so this needs to replace any other F-29 unofficial Polish dump!!
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Old 27 April 2024, 15:08   #666
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Uploaded to The Zone: F-29 Retaliator (1990)(Mirage Software).7z

Made from Risc's dump and seems to be unmodified so this needs to replace any other F-29 unofficial Polish dump!!

Thank you. Great news
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Old 27 April 2024, 23:40   #667
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Checking rygar's recent dumps:

Date Girl (1996)(MarkSoft) - Comparing this to the Wanted Team crack Disk 2 is identical, WT Disk 1 has an extra file added and quite a few tracks different probably from writing the cracked 'Vida' file and the extra file 'IntelOutsideIII to the disk! Also needs a Code Sheet which I can't find and can't extract the codes!

Ma³y Matematyk (1994)(Promic Group) - Seems to have Promic (or variant) protection on 80.0 but not recognised in disk-utilities, might need side 0 cleaning as the protection track seems dirty!! The only ADF to compare to is the PPA Non TOSEC and that shows all tracks different!

Jurajski Sen (1995)(Mirage Software) - Comparing this to the cracked ADF by CORRUPT shows Disk 2 as identical, Disk 1 shows 10 tracks different no other dump/ADF to compare to! Also needs a Code Table which is in the manual on HOL: https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/jurajski-sen#manuals
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Old 28 April 2024, 09:40   #668
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Ma³y Matematyk (1994)(Promic Group) - Seems to have Promic (or variant) protection on 80.0 but not recognised in disk-utilities, might need side 0 cleaning as the protection track seems dirty!! The only ADF to compare to is the PPA Non TOSEC and that shows all tracks different!

I'll try to redump it. All Promic games on PPA were cracked by Juen so it reason why it's different. I hope Abaddon can take a look and add support for this variant.

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Old 28 April 2024, 12:34   #669
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I'll try to redump it. All Promic games on PPA were cracked by Juen so it reason why it's different. I hope Abaddon can take a look and add support for this variant.
See if cleaning it helps as a CT RAW shows no errors but WinUAE says there is a read/write error on track 37 and looking at the dump track 37.1 looks dirty but no bad sectors are showing!! Using an ADF and swapping it before the protection check crashes WinUAE same happens when using an IPF with raw_dd in disk_utilities on track 80.0 so it's either a bad track or an unsupported variant!
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Old 28 April 2024, 14:52   #670
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I'll try to redump it. All Promic games on PPA were cracked by Juen so it reason why it's different. I hope Abaddon can take a look and add support for this variant.
The protection is another version of the AK Avalon (Joy/Freezers Copylock). Probably need to rename the protection.

Sum of raw longs add 1 when carry set. Add 7 to the sum and compare to the checksum in code 0x1075f814

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Old 28 April 2024, 15:02   #671
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The protection is another version of the AK Avalon (Joy/Freezers Copylock). Probably need to rename the protection.

Sum of raw longs add 1 when carry set. Add 7 to the sum and compare to the checksum in code 0x1075f814

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Thanks for the analysis and IPF, so another variant to support!
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Old 28 April 2024, 15:43   #672
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The protection is another version of the AK Avalon (Joy/Freezers Copylock). Probably need to rename the protection.

Sum of raw longs add 1 when carry set. Add 7 to the sum and compare to the checksum in code 0x1075f814

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Thank you so much
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Old 28 April 2024, 15:51   #673
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Checking more dumps from Risc:

Turbo-Board - zestaw programów pomocniczych (1997)(GIFT) - Not bootable so use from Workbench, Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows no deleted/lost files and no doscopy, who is GIFT?

S³ownik Polski v1.2 (1993)(Alderan) - Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows deleted/lost files! I know it's a dictionary but no idea how to use this

Lazarus (1995)(TimSoft) - Disk 3 missing but Disks 1 & 2 are clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files. Oddly, there is a cracked version but Disks 1 & 2 are very different but these ADF's are identical but only contain Disks 1 & 2 https://ftp2.grandis.nu/turran/FTP/~...L)/lazarus.zip so were those ADF's made from this dump?

ELSAT Hard Disk Kit (1993)(Elsat s.c.) - Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows deleted/lost files!!

Chemia 2.0 (1992)(Alderan) - Mislabelled, it's 2.1!! Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, comparing this to AdamZeku's dump shows 5 tracks are different, 4 tracks on AdamZeku's dump have corrupted sectors but appear unused, track 31.1 shows all sectors different and comparing to the Wanted Team cracked ADF those 5 tracks are identical on AdamZeku's dump, so was that disk used for the crack?

A-Word 3.0 (1993)(Alderan) - Both disks clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare to but both disks show deleted/lost files!

AntyVirus (1993)(Alderan)[aka Pakiet Programów Antywirusowych Pubic Domain v1.5] - VirusZ shows this for the file BootX.BBLib:
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Contains 'SystemZ 6.5' virus!
Deleting is not offered for this file, as it may be the brainfile
of an antivirus program. But it could be a bootvirus installer too!
Disk contains 3 Anti Virus programs, BootX 4.50, VirusZ 2.28 and Virus Checker 6.34, nother dump/ADF to compare to!!
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Old 28 April 2024, 16:15   #674
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Checking more dumps from Risc:

Turbo-Board - zestaw programów pomocniczych (1997)(GIFT) - Not bootable so use from Workbench, Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows no deleted/lost files and no doscopy, who is GIFT?

S³ownik Polski v1.2 (1993)(Alderan) - Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows deleted/lost files! I know it's a dictionary but no idea how to use this

Lazarus (1995)(TimSoft) - Disk 3 missing but Disks 1 & 2 are clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files. Oddly, there is a cracked version but Disks 1 & 2 are very different but these ADF's are identical but only contain Disks 1 & 2 https://ftp2.grandis.nu/turran/FTP/~...L)/lazarus.zip so were those ADF's made from this dump?

ELSAT Hard Disk Kit (1993)(Elsat s.c.) - Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare but ADF-Workshop shows deleted/lost files!!

Chemia 2.0 (1992)(Alderan) - Mislabelled, it's 2.1!! Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, comparing this to AdamZeku's dump shows 5 tracks are different, 4 tracks on AdamZeku's dump have corrupted sectors but appear unused, track 31.1 shows all sectors different and comparing to the Wanted Team cracked ADF those 5 tracks are identical on AdamZeku's dump, so was that disk used for the crack?

A-Word 3.0 (1993)(Alderan) - Both disks clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, no other dump/ADF to compare to but both disks show deleted/lost files!

AntyVirus (1993)(Alderan)[aka Pakiet Programów Antywirusowych Pubic Domain v1.5] - VirusZ shows this for the file BootX.BBLib:


Disk contains 3 Anti Virus programs, BootX 4.50, VirusZ 2.28 and Virus Checker 6.34, nother dump/ADF to compare to!!

All dumps were made from oryginals. Please check Risc folder on HOL FTP:
dyski-ro?ne.pdf -> contains disks scans
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The protection is another version of the AK Avalon (Joy/Freezers Copylock). Probably need to rename the protection.

Sum of raw longs add 1 when carry set. Add 7 to the sum and compare to the checksum in code 0x1075f814

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From my memory final check was done with "JOY!" longword.
Perhaps after adding all longwords from raw.
At first (1993-1994 years) this protection seems to be used in Promic programs f.e Speedway Manager.
Later (1995-1996 years) was used in LK Avalon games.
At first in Monster (Monstrum) game, later in Skarb Templariuszy game.
Maybe was used in other programs too, but I dont had access to very old and rare polish programs.
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All dumps were made from oryginals. Please check Risc folder on HOL FTP:
dyski-ro?ne.pdf -> contains disks scans
The problem here is we have no way of knowing the history of those originals and if they were modified after they were bought, unless we have another source to check against we can't be sure they are 'original' from the day they were released by the publishers! If I create IPF's should they be marked as 'unverified' and put in a folder on the FTP named as such? Or, should we release ADF's only until we can verify against another source so IPF's can be released?
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Chemia 2.0 (1992)(Alderan) - Mislabelled, it's 2.1!! Clean in VirusZ, no virus damaged sectors/files, comparing this to AdamZeku's dump shows 5 tracks are different, 4 tracks on AdamZeku's dump have corrupted sectors but appear unused, track 31.1 shows all sectors different and comparing to the Wanted Team cracked ADF those 5 tracks are identical on AdamZeku's dump, so was that disk used for the crack?
From my memory all or almost all Alderan programs has same protection.
Copylock by Andy Brent.
Because it wasted one track, for some Alderan products, I modify free data/space on disk.
For placing bigger WT cracktro.
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From my memory all or almost all Alderan programs has same protection.
Copylock by Andy Brent.
Because it wasted one track, for some Alderan products, I modify free data/space on disk.
For placing bigger WT cracktro.
Also has a file 'Protected by Andy Brent of KTS' on the disk that is linked to the protection on track 31.0! Not all Alderan titles were protected though!
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Also has a file 'Protected by Andy Brent of KTS' on the disk that is linked to the protection on track 31.0! Not all Alderan titles were protected though!
I dont think that exist not protected Alderan programs.
Because willl be available on Bird CD's.
Not protected was Twin Spark Soft programs.
But most TSS programs need special handling (from manual) to start.
Of course I see only a few Alderan programs.
First was one of the last Alderan's program "Pepe Srubokrecik" (Pepe the Screwdriver).
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If I create IPF's should they be marked as 'unverified' and put in a folder on the FTP named as such?
I don't think that would make a lot of sense. All the non-SPS IPF are unofficial and if some are indeed confirmed by matching more than one set of images we could put those in a different folder.
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