Embed data in Blitz2 programs

oRBIT · 29 March 2007, 13:38

I'm a bit new to BlitzBasic2 (yeah in 2007

) but I'm curious, is there a way of embedding data within the executable instead of having separate iff/modules/whatever-files on disk? It's not really "hacker-proof" to store titlescreen of your game as an iff-file on disk..

AMOS had some ways of dealing with this but I haven't read about anything similar in Blitz... Hints anyone?

Graham Humphrey · 29 March 2007, 14:06

I think something like the INCBIN command would work, I've never actually felt the need to use it myself though.

Out of interest why aren't you comfortable with using separate IFF files? I hardly think the whole hacking thing is a problem for the Amiga in this day and age. I've never had a problem with my stuff.

BippyM · 29 March 2007, 14:14

the following code is taken from my swoseditor, I wanted to include a graphic within the exe so I could distribute just that (if ya follow)

Code:

INCDIR "data:programming/swoseditor/data/"
pic_dat: IncBin "V1.5_shapes"
pal_dat: IncBin "V1.5.pal"

oRBIT · 31 March 2007, 20:47

Ok, incbin is the way to go. But how do you load the shapes data then? I'm a blitz2-super-newbie so I am really new into this.

The "Loadshape" instruction wants to load a file from disk, right? How do you deal with it since your shape is already included?

BippyM · 31 March 2007, 21:23

In my source I use

Code:

DecodeShapes 1,7,?pic_dat
DecodePalette  1,?pal_dat

mrodfr · 01 April 2007, 07:03

hello,

on this site: http://www.amiforce.de, there is an english foum for amiblitz where the authors and some amiblitz users can help you.

there is also an english ML for amiblitz:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiblitz/

you can found the same persons like on the amiforce forum to help you with amiblitz. please increase the ammount of amiblitz users available by joining the forum and/or the ML.

amiblitz3 is a actually developped and tested. you can found news about amiblitz3 on amiforce.de

oRBIT · 01 April 2007, 09:56

The "decodeshapes" instruction is not included in my manual.. hmmm..

Graham Humphrey · 01 April 2007, 11:15

What version of Blitz are you using? I know for a fact it's included in version 2.1.

BippyM · 01 April 2007, 11:16

just type it into blitz and press help for command syntax

from blitz.guide

Code:

Syntax   : DecodeShapes Shape#[,Shape#],MemoryLocation
Library  : shapeslib

Description:
DecodeShapes, similar to DecodeMedModule ensures the data is in chip and
then configures the Shape object(s) to point to the data.

oRBIT · 02 April 2007, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

What version of Blitz are you using? I know for a fact it's included in version 2.1.

Blitzbasic 2.. Got it from ebay. However when picking the "about" menu says "v1.70".

BippyM · 02 April 2007, 13:03

you seriously need to upgrade..

I'll chuck together a blitz hdf or similar later if i get time, will include 99% of all the libs etc updated

You will need to save all your source as ascii though otherwise alot of commands will balls up

oRBIT · 02 April 2007, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

you seriously need to upgrade..

I'll chuck together a blitz hdf or similar later if i get time, will include 99% of all the libs etc updated

You will need to save all your source as ascii though otherwise alot of commands will balls up

How do you get upgrades these days without downloading torrents?

I had to replace the editor cause the original one crashed instantly. I used something called "SuperTed" from aminet and it actually works, however, when exiting Blitz, all Disk I/O seems to freeze so I have to reboot every time I exit.. Annoying.

BippyM · 02 April 2007, 14:43

what i'll do is upload my amiblitz folder/dir for you to download, simply unpack it and use it, make sure you save ALL your source as ascii now though.. i'll do this after lunch

BippyM · 02 April 2007, 15:49

it's in the zone

Simply unrar and copy over your existing blitz install

oRBIT · 02 April 2007, 17:46

Thanks works! The editor still sucks btw but it don't crash my computer on exiting..

mrodfr · 02 April 2007, 19:31

hello,

amiblitz 2.4x is on aminet. not the verry latest but pratically.

the last amiblitz in on amiforce.de.

BippyM · 02 April 2007, 19:38

yes my upload is not the lkatest package, but it works.

My acidlibs & deflibs are quite large too, but there will be libs updated and missing still

oRBIT · 02 April 2007, 19:57

I'll try the aminet one or the one at amiforce.de.. The "compile and run" rarely works btw.. Well a print "hello world" works but anything else seems to lock up..

mrodfr · 03 April 2007, 07:36

hello,

what is your amiga hardware ???

the best is to post the conpilation problem on the yahoo ML or on amiforce.de because authors of amiblitz are here.

oRBIT · 03 April 2007, 09:59

I've got an A1200 with OS3.9 and 68060/50 with 64Mb RAM. Tried the latest beta of AmiBlitz3 but still compile n run rarely works. However generating a working executable seems to work, when the editor doesn't crash..

29 March 2007, 13:38	#1
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	Embed data in Blitz2 programs I'm a bit new to BlitzBasic2 (yeah in 2007 ) but I'm curious, is there a way of embedding data within the executable instead of having separate iff/modules/whatever-files on disk? It's not really "hacker-proof" to store titlescreen of your game as an iff-file on disk.. AMOS had some ways of dealing with this but I haven't read about anything similar in Blitz... Hints anyone?

29 March 2007, 14:14	#3
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	the following code is taken from my swoseditor, I wanted to include a graphic within the exe so I could distribute just that (if ya follow) Code: INCDIR "data:programming/swoseditor/data/" pic_dat: IncBin "V1.5_shapes" pal_dat: IncBin "V1.5.pal"

31 March 2007, 21:23	#5
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	In my source I use Code: DecodeShapes 1,7,?pic_dat DecodePalette 1,?pal_dat

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29 March 2007, 14:06	#2
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	I think something like the INCBIN command would work, I've never actually felt the need to use it myself though. Out of interest why aren't you comfortable with using separate IFF files? I hardly think the whole hacking thing is a problem for the Amiga in this day and age. I've never had a problem with my stuff.

31 March 2007, 20:47	#4
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	Ok, incbin is the way to go. But how do you load the shapes data then? I'm a blitz2-super-newbie so I am really new into this. The "Loadshape" instruction wants to load a file from disk, right? How do you deal with it since your shape is already included?

01 April 2007, 07:03	#6
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 57 Posts: 413	hello, on this site: http://www.amiforce.de, there is an english foum for amiblitz where the authors and some amiblitz users can help you. there is also an english ML for amiblitz: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amiblitz/ you can found the same persons like on the amiforce forum to help you with amiblitz. please increase the ammount of amiblitz users available by joining the forum and/or the ML. amiblitz3 is a actually developped and tested. you can found news about amiblitz3 on amiforce.de

01 April 2007, 09:56	#7
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	The "decodeshapes" instruction is not included in my manual.. hmmm..

01 April 2007, 11:15	#8
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	What version of Blitz are you using? I know for a fact it's included in version 2.1.

02 April 2007, 13:03	#11
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	you seriously need to upgrade.. I'll chuck together a blitz hdf or similar later if i get time, will include 99% of all the libs etc updated You will need to save all your source as ascii though otherwise alot of commands will balls up

02 April 2007, 14:43	#13
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	what i'll do is upload my amiblitz folder/dir for you to download, simply unpack it and use it, make sure you save ALL your source as ascii now though.. i'll do this after lunch

02 April 2007, 15:49	#14
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	it's in the zone Simply unrar and copy over your existing blitz install

02 April 2007, 17:46	#15
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	Thanks works! The editor still sucks btw but it don't crash my computer on exiting..

02 April 2007, 19:31	#16
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 57 Posts: 413	hello, amiblitz 2.4x is on aminet. not the verry latest but pratically. the last amiblitz in on amiforce.de.

02 April 2007, 19:38	#17
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	yes my upload is not the lkatest package, but it works. My acidlibs & deflibs are quite large too, but there will be libs updated and missing still

02 April 2007, 19:57	#18
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	I'll try the aminet one or the one at amiforce.de.. The "compile and run" rarely works btw.. Well a print "hello world" works but anything else seems to lock up..

03 April 2007, 07:36	#19
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 57 Posts: 413	hello, what is your amiga hardware ??? the best is to post the conpilation problem on the yahoo ML or on amiforce.de because authors of amiblitz are here.

03 April 2007, 09:59	#20
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 345	I've got an A1200 with OS3.9 and 68060/50 with 64Mb RAM. Tried the latest beta of AmiBlitz3 but still compile n run rarely works. However generating a working executable seems to work, when the editor doesn't crash..

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