Lionheart - Topshots Deluxe - 1994

dlfrsilver · 01 November 2020, 09:22

Hi Guys,

I have uploaded Lionheart Budget release published by Softgold in 1994 in the zone. Scans are on HOL (manual, disks and manual).

Enjoy !

Scandy · 20 July 2022, 07:15

Hello and thank you so much!
May I ask if this is the most updated version of the game?

Again, thank you so much!

dlfrsilver · 20 July 2022, 08:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandy

Hello and thank you so much!
May I ask if this is the most updated version of the game?

Again, thank you so much!

Yes it's the last one released.

alexh · 20 July 2022, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Yes it's the last one released.

Not true.

The Softgold disks are IDENTICAL to the Thalion disks. The disks contain the same files, with the same file names. They have the same date and timestamps. The files are binary identical.

i.e. Same game, different box.

Scandy · 20 July 2022, 09:56

Thanks everyone for the information. Maybe it is the last published but not the most updated one?

I'm searching for the updated version mentioned in this other topic, which should be free of a (minor) bug, if I understand correctly.

The topic is from 2008 but in Turrian FTP folders starts from 2013...
(for the same reason I'm also searching for the unprotected Flashback version from Delphine Collection "IPF to ADF" but, again, I can't find in The Zone).

Thank you so much!

TCD · 20 July 2022, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandy

so searching for the unprotected Flashback version from Delphine Collection "IPF to ADF" but, again, I can't find in The Zone).

Maybe it's one of these: http://grandis.nu/turransearch/searc...0&httplinks=on ?

alexh · 20 July 2022, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandy

I'm searching for the updated version mentioned in this other topic, which should be free of a (minor) bug, if I understand correctly

I've never seen anything other than SoftPres IPF 0845 (the Thalion release) which I've proved today is identical to TopShots Deluxe ADFs created by dlfrsilver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Maybe it's one of these: https://grandis.nu/turransearch/sear...0&httplinks=on

Link fixed

Scandy · 20 July 2022, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Maybe it's one of these: http://grandis.nu/turransearch/searc...0&httplinks=on ?

...that's it! Thank you so much!!!

Scandy · 20 July 2022, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I've never seen anything other than SoftPres IPF 0845 (the Thalion release) which I've proved today is identical to TopShots Deluxe ADFs created by dlfrsilver.

Reference is made to an "updated" version of Lionheart in post #15, eventually uploaded in The Zone(?). One thing that is not clear to me is if the bug found in the first post concerns only the WHDload version or also the ADFs.
Thanks

alexh · 20 July 2022, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandy

Reference is made to an "updated" version of Lionheart in post #15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

There is 3 differents version of the game. I own 2 the one you know (845) and the second, which is an updated one..... who knows ?

dlfrsilver is very enthusiastic and experienced but his posts are not always easy to read presumably because English is not his first language.

I interpret his post to read

there are 3 different versions (presumably meaning packaging, there were 3 different boxes)
he has two
one is the Thalion release (aka Softpres 0845)
one is NOT the Thalion release (the TopShots version discussed here?)
he doesn't know which one is updated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Ok i'll upload it tonight. PS : The executable is bigger on this updated version....

That is not the case between 0845 and TopShots files he uploaded. They are identical.

Maybe dlfrsilver has the 3rd version? I think you have to assume it doesn't exist until he can provide the files again.

ross · 20 July 2022, 12:45

I try to clarify how things stand.

There are like 4 types of Lionheart' executable and different releases / packages.

Demo/beta: there are various versions (including some with trainers), the executable is around 226/228K.

Leak: this is the version that has spread on the scene, probably 'lost' by some magazine who had it in preview.
The unpacked executable is always 259092 bytes; there are different versions, due to different decompressors or trainer versions, but the code base is identical and the game is complete and fully functional.

Release: this is the official version, SPS 845 Thalion release or TopShots re-release.
The unpacked executable is 259288 bytes; small patches to make it better work on different memory configurations and similar.

Upgraded: this is a limited and pretty rare version
The unpacked executable is 259636 bytes; small patches to make it better work on AGA and faster processors
(and probably some fixes here and there, but not enough to fix some graphic glitches and 'cloud' problem).

That's all

alexh · 20 July 2022, 12:50

Here is a link to something that was once zoned

https://grandis.nu/turransearch/sear...0&httplinks=on

alexh · 20 July 2022, 13:13

I imagine WHDload Lionheart v2.3 is the best one to use and set icon tool type CUSTOM5 depending on your Amiga.

Retro1234 · 20 July 2022, 13:45

I remember there is a bug on an earlier version if you loose a credit at the Lava boss. dlfrsilver once uploaded an updated version where this has been fixed.
https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php...ight=lionheart

Torti-the-Smurf · 20 July 2022, 13:55

Thank you Ross for all those infos on my favorite Amiga game, i did not know there was a later version

( the 259636 bytes exe version )

I did finish Lionheart (the 259288 bytes exe version) about 50 or more times,
but never noticed any "Cloud" problem.

Any Infos on that ; whats that all about ?
Also, what graphic glitches ? (that stripe on the right side on some stages in aga?)

I can produce a slight graphic glitch in the bossfight on the Flying stage if i trick/speedrun the boss.

Hhhhm, any info on my favorite game is highly appreciated

I always used the "native way" to run the game on real and FPGA Amiga´s and never had any issues. But a WHDLoad version is good for people who needs/wants it.

A very special thanks to AlexH for providing the Links

Happy gaming

TCD · 20 July 2022, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf

Any Infos on that ; whats that all about ?
Also, what graphic glitches ? (that stripe on the right side on aga?)

They are listed in the WHDLoad slave description: http://www.whdload.de/games/Lionheart.html

Torti-the-Smurf · 20 July 2022, 13:59

Thanks TCD, stupid me

I will take a look

Torti-the-Smurf · 20 July 2022, 14:03

Ahh interesting; i was never bothered by them, so maybe thats why i forgot.

Is there interest to fix the Final EXE (ROSS) ? . just asking

In any case, HUGE thanks for all those infos ! You guys are great

Scandy · 20 July 2022, 14:48

Thank you so much, really, for all these infos!!!

Is the "Upgraded" version available somewhere in ADF? Thank you!

alexh · 20 July 2022, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf

A very special thanks to AlexH for providing the Links

No credit to me. It was Hexaae who Zoned them all that time ago (2019) and whoever maintains the FTP server.

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01 November 2020, 09:22	#1
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Lionheart - Topshots Deluxe - 1994 Hi Guys, I have uploaded Lionheart Budget release published by Softgold in 1994 in the zone. Scans are on HOL (manual, disks and manual). Enjoy !

20 July 2022, 07:15	#2
Scandy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: South Italy Posts: 44	Hello and thank you so much! May I ask if this is the most updated version of the game? Again, thank you so much!

20 July 2022, 09:56	#5
Scandy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: South Italy Posts: 44	Thanks everyone for the information. Maybe it is the last published but not the most updated one? I'm searching for the updated version mentioned in this other topic, which should be free of a (minor) bug, if I understand correctly. The topic is from 2008 but in Turrian FTP folders starts from 2013... (for the same reason I'm also searching for the unprotected Flashback version from Delphine Collection "IPF to ADF" but, again, I can't find in The Zone). Thank you so much!

20 July 2022, 12:45	#11
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,468	I try to clarify how things stand. There are like 4 types of Lionheart' executable and different releases / packages. Demo/beta: there are various versions (including some with trainers), the executable is around 226/228K. Leak: this is the version that has spread on the scene, probably 'lost' by some magazine who had it in preview. The unpacked executable is always 259092 bytes; there are different versions, due to different decompressors or trainer versions, but the code base is identical and the game is complete and fully functional. Release: this is the official version, SPS 845 Thalion release or TopShots re-release. The unpacked executable is 259288 bytes; small patches to make it better work on different memory configurations and similar. Upgraded: this is a limited and pretty rare version The unpacked executable is 259636 bytes; small patches to make it better work on AGA and faster processors (and probably some fixes here and there, but not enough to fix some graphic glitches and 'cloud' problem). That's all

20 July 2022, 12:50	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,333	Here is a link to something that was once zoned https://grandis.nu/turransearch/sear...0&httplinks=on

20 July 2022, 13:13	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,333	I imagine WHDload Lionheart v2.3 is the best one to use and set icon tool type CUSTOM5 depending on your Amiga.

20 July 2022, 13:45	#14
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I remember there is a bug on an earlier version if you loose a credit at the Lava boss. dlfrsilver once uploaded an updated version where this has been fixed. https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php...ight=lionheart

20 July 2022, 13:55	#15
Torti-the-Smurf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,058	Thank you Ross for all those infos on my favorite Amiga game, i did not know there was a later version ( the 259636 bytes exe version ) I did finish Lionheart (the 259288 bytes exe version) about 50 or more times, but never noticed any "Cloud" problem. Any Infos on that ; whats that all about ? Also, what graphic glitches ? (that stripe on the right side on some stages in aga?) I can produce a slight graphic glitch in the bossfight on the Flying stage if i trick/speedrun the boss. Hhhhm, any info on my favorite game is highly appreciated I always used the "native way" to run the game on real and FPGA Amiga´s and never had any issues. But a WHDLoad version is good for people who needs/wants it. A very special thanks to AlexH for providing the Links Happy gaming

20 July 2022, 13:59	#17
Torti-the-Smurf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,058	Thanks TCD, stupid me I will take a look

20 July 2022, 14:03	#18
Torti-the-Smurf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,058	Ahh interesting; i was never bothered by them, so maybe thats why i forgot. Is there interest to fix the Final EXE (ROSS) ? . just asking In any case, HUGE thanks for all those infos ! You guys are great

20 July 2022, 14:48	#19
Scandy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: South Italy Posts: 44	Thank you so much, really, for all these infos!!! Is the "Upgraded" version available somewhere in ADF? Thank you!

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