A1200 online!

optimusfox · 02 February 2016, 23:54

Hey guys,

I joined the forum recently and with some help from you guys have managed to get my beloved A1200 online! I swapped out the 8MB FastRAM card I bought a couple of years ago for a shiny new ACA1221 and got a PCMCIA network card from amigakit.com.

Spent a few days installing Workbench 3.1 and EasyNet + tools onto a CF card, could get online but couldn't browse - AWeb crashed every time it was loading images. Traced the error down and it seemed related to an FPU instruction... I don't have an FPU installed. However I tried a few installs of AWeb (inc 68000) and all did the same thing.

I tried from scratch with ClassicWB, and could get online using IBrowse easily with no crashes! Clearly something I'm doing wrong with my WB3.1 build but not too bothered at the moment, I feel I've achieved something just getting the ClassicWB build online!

I've been creating plenty of backups of the CF image as I've been going along too so can recover if I need to!

Anyway, just wanted to share my experience but more importantly thanks to the people who've helped me, particularly with regards to advice around the ACA1221, and to the folk behind ClassicWB. You guys rock.

Sir_Lucas · 03 February 2016, 01:02

Great to hear that. I can tell you only one thing. The adventure has just only started

Daedalus · 03 February 2016, 10:23

Well done getting it working! I would suspect the original crashes might have something to do with a datatype using the FPU since these can be used for decoding the images. Datatypes are independent of the browser code, so even the 68000 version will use the 68030+FPU version of a datatype if that's what is installed, which will obviously crash.

crazyc · 03 February 2016, 12:20

Congratulations!
Admittedly I tend to use my online abilities just for Aminet and transferring files over my house network, buts its nice to be able to do more if I really wanted.

TCMSLP · 03 February 2016, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyc

Congratulations!
Admittedly I tend to use my online abilities just for Aminet and transferring files over my house network, buts its nice to be able to do more if I really wanted.

Wot no AmIRC or Wookiechat?

Sir_Lucas · 03 February 2016, 12:44

SMBFS, FTP, Telnet, AmRSS, IRC. You can even run WIFI under Shapeshifter/Fusion emulation

and transfer the files via FTP straight to your emulated Mac

TenLeftFingers · 03 February 2016, 13:08

Congratulations on the new setup optimusfox

I've recently set up something similar with Workbench 3.0. I'm only a few months ahead of you but I'm sure either myself or others here can give you any guidance you need.

As Sir_Lucas says, there's a lot of fun to be had - and that doesn't even include the games

crazyc · 03 February 2016, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCMSLP

Wot no AmIRC or Wookiechat?

Real life is keeping me away from my amigas at the moment - but I dont even know how to use those - any idiots guides?

Sir_Lucas · 03 February 2016, 14:02

Oh, I forgot to mention two more things:
Google Drive handler:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...43#post1067843

And you can even start your own server on Amiga:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthre...ghlight=server

FTP server as well:
http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/rc-ftpd
http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/amiftpd19

zerohour1974 · 03 February 2016, 16:05

I really could not get mine to resolve the DNS. Tried MiamiDX and Genesis and it claims to be connected but can't seem to get DNS resolution no matter which IP I try. Tried Google, OpenDNS and even the ones of Virgin Media (my ISP) no dice.

Ibrowse and Aweb just do not display a page no matter what I do.

I am probably doing something wrong in the configuring.

Sir_Lucas · 03 February 2016, 16:57

@zerohour1974
If you're using MiamiDX why don't you try the DHCP. It seems to be a lot easier.
Genesis supports only static IP, it doesn't have the DHCP option.
Btw, have you seens this tutorial?
http://www.retro-commodore.eu/networ...-on-the-amiga/

crazyc · 03 February 2016, 20:19

I use Miami dx with virgin media fine.

Daedalus · 04 February 2016, 11:05

It also might be worth trying to set your router's IP as the DNS. Works well for my A1200s.

optimusfox · 04 February 2016, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Well done getting it working! I would suspect the original crashes might have something to do with a datatype using the FPU since these can be used for decoding the images. Datatypes are independent of the browser code, so even the 68000 version will use the 68030+FPU version of a datatype if that's what is installed, which will obviously crash.

Thought it might be something like that, after playing around a lot with the datatype settings it did seem to get a bit further every time

Sir_Lucas · 05 February 2016, 22:03

I've found one more interesting tutorial for Miami.
http://doctorq.info/guide/miami.html

optimusfox · 13 April 2016, 22:05

Quick update... I wrote a blog post about getting the Amiga online (http://blog.danfox.me/2016/04/12/return-of-the-amiga) should anyone want to read it.

Please let me know if there are any technical Amiga-related errors in the blog post, would hate to publish incorrect information.

And thanks again to the guys that helped advise me!

debiani386 · 27 June 2016, 11:53

At the moment, I have my Amiga 4000 connected to the Internet via serial. Serial going from Amiga to my Mac which I have pppd running. I don't really surf the web so much on my amiga, except maybe floodgaps gopher page.

I have wget installed on my Amiga, so I just use that if I want to download anything, say, from aminet.

Back in the day, I used to have my own closed circuit dial up network which I would connect my older computers that didn't have Ethernet up to. Slow, sure, but at least I could get something in the form of a network connection on them

Sir_Lucas · 27 June 2016, 17:09

Serial connection is quite ok. However, if you can get yourself Plipbox it might be a bit quicker.

Have a look here:
http://lallafa.de/blog/amiga-project...pbox-hardware/

[ Show youtube player ]

[ Show youtube player ]

debiani386 · 13 July 2016, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir_Lucas

Serial connection is quite ok. However, if you can get yourself Plipbox it might be a bit quicker.

Have a look here:
http://lallafa.de/blog/amiga-project...pbox-hardware/

[ Show youtube player ]

[ Show youtube player ]

I was actually waiting on my Mediator 4000 Di to come in

. I now have fast Ethernet (amoungst other cards) working on my Amiga 4000.

LuMan · 14 July 2016, 09:49

Glad to see it's coming together, optimusfox. Always good to hear stories of folk getting their old Amigas back up and running and online.

I had my A1200 online w-a-a-a-y back in the 90s with a Motorola Voice SurfR 56k modem. More recently I got the EasyNet Wifi PCMCIA card and use it perfectly with Roadshow. iBrowse and Aweb both work brilliantly, and it's great hitting aminet with a real Amiga agin

Best of luck with your new passion.

02 February 2016, 23:54	#1
optimusfox Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 13	A1200 online! Hey guys, I joined the forum recently and with some help from you guys have managed to get my beloved A1200 online! I swapped out the 8MB FastRAM card I bought a couple of years ago for a shiny new ACA1221 and got a PCMCIA network card from amigakit.com. Spent a few days installing Workbench 3.1 and EasyNet + tools onto a CF card, could get online but couldn't browse - AWeb crashed every time it was loading images. Traced the error down and it seemed related to an FPU instruction... I don't have an FPU installed. However I tried a few installs of AWeb (inc 68000) and all did the same thing. I tried from scratch with ClassicWB, and could get online using IBrowse easily with no crashes! Clearly something I'm doing wrong with my WB3.1 build but not too bothered at the moment, I feel I've achieved something just getting the ClassicWB build online! I've been creating plenty of backups of the CF image as I've been going along too so can recover if I need to! Anyway, just wanted to share my experience but more importantly thanks to the people who've helped me, particularly with regards to advice around the ACA1221, and to the folk behind ClassicWB. You guys rock.

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03 February 2016, 01:02	#2
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Great to hear that. I can tell you only one thing. The adventure has just only started

03 February 2016, 10:23	#3
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Well done getting it working! I would suspect the original crashes might have something to do with a datatype using the FPU since these can be used for decoding the images. Datatypes are independent of the browser code, so even the 68000 version will use the 68030+FPU version of a datatype if that's what is installed, which will obviously crash.

03 February 2016, 12:20	#4
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	Congratulations! Admittedly I tend to use my online abilities just for Aminet and transferring files over my house network, buts its nice to be able to do more if I really wanted.

03 February 2016, 12:44	#6
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	SMBFS, FTP, Telnet, AmRSS, IRC. You can even run WIFI under Shapeshifter/Fusion emulation and transfer the files via FTP straight to your emulated Mac

03 February 2016, 13:08	#7
TenLeftFingers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 800	Congratulations on the new setup optimusfox I've recently set up something similar with Workbench 3.0. I'm only a few months ahead of you but I'm sure either myself or others here can give you any guidance you need. As Sir_Lucas says, there's a lot of fun to be had - and that doesn't even include the games

03 February 2016, 14:02	#9
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Oh, I forgot to mention two more things: Google Drive handler: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...43#post1067843 And you can even start your own server on Amiga: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthre...ghlight=server FTP server as well: http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/rc-ftpd http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/amiftpd19

03 February 2016, 16:05	#10
zerohour1974 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Swindon UK Posts: 202	I really could not get mine to resolve the DNS. Tried MiamiDX and Genesis and it claims to be connected but can't seem to get DNS resolution no matter which IP I try. Tried Google, OpenDNS and even the ones of Virgin Media (my ISP) no dice. Ibrowse and Aweb just do not display a page no matter what I do. I am probably doing something wrong in the configuring.

03 February 2016, 16:57	#11
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	@zerohour1974 If you're using MiamiDX why don't you try the DHCP. It seems to be a lot easier. Genesis supports only static IP, it doesn't have the DHCP option. Btw, have you seens this tutorial? http://www.retro-commodore.eu/networ...-on-the-amiga/

03 February 2016, 20:19	#12
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	I use Miami dx with virgin media fine.

04 February 2016, 11:05	#13
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	It also might be worth trying to set your router's IP as the DNS. Works well for my A1200s.

05 February 2016, 22:03	#15
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	I've found one more interesting tutorial for Miami. http://doctorq.info/guide/miami.html

13 April 2016, 22:05	#16
optimusfox Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 13	Quick update... I wrote a blog post about getting the Amiga online (http://blog.danfox.me/2016/04/12/return-of-the-amiga) should anyone want to read it. Please let me know if there are any technical Amiga-related errors in the blog post, would hate to publish incorrect information. And thanks again to the guys that helped advise me!

27 June 2016, 11:53	#17
debiani386 New generation Amiga user Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Phoenix Posts: 32	At the moment, I have my Amiga 4000 connected to the Internet via serial. Serial going from Amiga to my Mac which I have pppd running. I don't really surf the web so much on my amiga, except maybe floodgaps gopher page. I have wget installed on my Amiga, so I just use that if I want to download anything, say, from aminet. Back in the day, I used to have my own closed circuit dial up network which I would connect my older computers that didn't have Ethernet up to. Slow, sure, but at least I could get something in the form of a network connection on them

27 June 2016, 17:09	#18
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Serial connection is quite ok. However, if you can get yourself Plipbox it might be a bit quicker. Have a look here: http://lallafa.de/blog/amiga-project...pbox-hardware/ [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

14 July 2016, 09:49	#20
LuMan Amigan - an' lovin' it!! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Nottingham, UK Age: 55 Posts: 557	Glad to see it's coming together, optimusfox. Always good to hear stories of folk getting their old Amigas back up and running and online. I had my A1200 online w-a-a-a-y back in the 90s with a Motorola Voice SurfR 56k modem. More recently I got the EasyNet Wifi PCMCIA card and use it perfectly with Roadshow. iBrowse and Aweb both work brilliantly, and it's great hitting aminet with a real Amiga agin Best of luck with your new passion.

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