Strange emulation freezes

[Thom87]

Hi Everyone,

I noticed that last flew versions of WinUAE freezes during boot or coping files.
I have checked only versions from 2.1.0 to current beta and all of them freeze.
Configuration file was created in version 2.3.1 of WinUAE.
Please notes that version 2.1.0, 2.2.0 & 2.3.2 freeze in other way – in black screen.
FS of source disk is PFS3, destination was FFS or directory.

Any idea why?

Logs and configuration attached.

[Toni Wilen]

Try without 68030 cycle-exact. It isn't really supported with any UAE expansion device.

[Schlachtwerk]

Here the same .

Solved
Was the same problem with the 68030 Emulation.

[Thom87]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Try without 68030 cycle-exact. It isn't really supported with any UAE expansion device.

Thanks.
If I good thinking if I change to 020 it will work?

I just wondering about manage of speed... with cycle-extract I was able to set for example 50Mhz and speed was just fine, but without it all settings are to fast or to slow. Any way to make working custom speed without cycle-extract?

Another thing just came... What You think about dependence monitor/checker?
In this case program can report that configuration can be unstable.

Thom

[Toni Wilen]

There is no way to detect if current configuration is "stable". There are millions of different combinations and I usually don't want to prevent weird or stupid configurations. (Unless it is obviously bad)

Black screen is probably normal D3D black screen issue, if it stopped happening in 2.3.3 betas. You really sure it is simply blank screen without anything frozen?

[Thom87]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

There is no way to detect if current configuration is "stable". There are millions of different combinations and I usually don't want to prevent weird or stupid configurations. (Unless it is obviously bad)

Maybe I used wrong words. I was thinking about something like hint that combination of those options not work together e.g. cycle-extract + JIT or just make JIT gray when c-e is enabled. In that particular case I can select JIT when c-e is enabled but when I back to menu it is disabled again.
Balloon tip is enough with simple information.What You think?

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Black screen is probably normal D3D black screen issue, if it stopped happening in 2.3.3 betas. You really sure it is simply blank screen without anything frozen?

It looks like is changing color from dark gray when is booting to completely black. In that case I can't start Hippo Player (and can't hear playing mod) by hot-key (tools deamon) but previously I had situation You probably taking about.
It was black screen but Hippo was playing mods normally.

Thom

[Thom87]

I found jet something about cycle-extract and speed (config file attached).
It seems to something is wrong with custom speed and sound.
That config I add I found best to have paula sound w no cracking, clipping etc but it is enough to change to custom speed (tested 30, 50, 70, 98 Mhz) and sound becoming bad. Other thing is AHI in custom speed AHI plays beter but not jet usable and witch 2x sound from AHI is completely noisy, speed is hanged, breaking up, clipping is just very bad.

Btw. Is any chance AHI to be improved some day? I ask because quality of sound from AHI (in some configuration combination with some clipping and cracking) just shock me like hell.

Thom

[Thom87]

Missed config file.

[Toni Wilen]

Unfortunately this is another unsupported configuration. It may or may not work.
AHI probably don't work properly unless mode is fastest possible. Most UAE expansion devices won't work correctly or they work really slowly in "too compatible" modes.

Cycle-exact with large CPU setting also can take lots of host CPU power, make sure CPU% on screen led stays under 100%, first "visible" problem is always sound.

[Thom87]

Ok, I see the point.
I set all to less compatible and fastest possible + JIT and work flawlessly but it was just enough to disable JIT and AHI sound gets distorted. CPU is still under 100% - about 95-98% and no more or even less if CPU Idle is closer to right side of slider.

Thom