19 December 2020, 21:15 | #101 |
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sorry again :-)
so to test warp3D what should i do? or just launch some games and choose an opengl (minigl) thanks for any advice |
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Actually, the mediator w3d drivers dont come with the demo files so maybe there is a compatibility issue with them (not knowing about the voodoo when they were written). If i can find the voodoo card ill mess around with the amiga tommorow. Edit: also note env settings. PowerPC/gfxaddr= $52000000 (This matches memspace1 in pciinfo and is what w3d installer finds.) PowerPC/Force=1 |
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19 December 2020, 21:22 | #103 | |
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Amiga 3D software install and support IS TOTAL GARBAGE! (EDIT: as in no error checks, just crash if something is wrong!) |
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19 December 2020, 21:36 | #104 |
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This is just as true today with modern software. I spent hours trying to get Homefront and Homefront revolution to run due to it wanting very specific versions of phyx software and not telling me what it wants and multiple versions cant co exist! Wolfenstein 2 did it as well when i didn't have the exact vulkan dll files it wanted and refused to start.
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It comes with OS 4 - NATIVE PPC, so it won't work for PPC "Classic" games. You have to use "work arounds" for those. Not worth it - not in emulation. Only if you have X5000 or some AmigaOne. Back to topic. |
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19 December 2020, 21:45 | #106 |
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I guess I need some ready-made Voodoo + Mediator + Warp3D HDF as usual (and as minimal as possible) Contact me privately if you have one.
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That's what I noticed also. After checking the Warp3D archive from Elbox I realized it HAS been updated but same version. That's when I was able to get hardware screen modes. |
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19 December 2020, 21:52 | #108 | |
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@toni, make sure you set the env vars i wrote above. should stop the freezing when selecting the 3d screen mode. I don't know if it makes a difference or not but i am using p96 2.1b as it is listed as the supported version in warp3d docs. Anything after that is a roll of the dice |
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Just crash or hang...Uh-huh!!! I went through trials trials with this stuff - win WinUAE and real A4000+CSPPC+CVisionPPC. Part of being an Amiga die-hard in some respects, ha! You're encountering what I did about 30 minutes ago. I noticed on Elbox Site about Warp3D...and had an "OOHh!!" moment. |
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That's why I was clarifying about AmigaOne.. With A4000 Wipeout will function with OS 4. |
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@AC/DC HACKER!
Thanks for the explanation even if I'm confused :-) I'm more interested in a graphic support for 4.1FE and that gives speed as when using uaegfx but with a higher speed. Maybe I understand now why there is little interest in this kind of development from Toni but I could be wrong. In reality, 3d in the form of an opengl never existed on the amiga :-) |
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19 December 2020, 22:06 | #113 |
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We had CyberGL when the CVision3D was released although i Don't know of any software using it. StormMESA is an OpenGL implementation for both 68k and ppc providing software emulated and hardware acceleration. Used in a few scene demos but not a lot else but it does exist. A lot of developers had lost interest in the Amiga by this point though.
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yes I followed the thing a bit but many years ago
if it is of interest by reading an old article in Italian it is basically explained that elbox did not find agreements at the time with the picasso developers. And so they did a reverse-engineering of picasso software at the moment it is always written that the best picasso drivers for voodoo were 1.43 after these the code was rewritten for later versions of picasso but without any optimization. here the complete article if it is of interest, with some instructions: http://w1.diff.org/diff/sei/medfull.shtml |
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My replies assumed you were seeking to install Warp3D 4.x or 5.x to OS 4 and those are 68K related. So they'd cause even more slowdown in emulation, to emulation. I should have been more clear. |
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Payback to me works great, tested 1024x768 on my AfA One Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 24 December 2020 at 23:54. |
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I don't understand, have you seen the request with the available resolutions Voodoo!
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Ok thanks now I understand !
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