Cannot format real amiga hard drive in winuae

liquidsmoke · 15 August 2021, 19:14

i created a sd card image of windows 3.1 many months for my amiga 1200

now ive got amiga os 3.2 i want to format part the main partition and install 3.2 on it (the old install is too modified to update)

but i cannot get the drive to function correctly in winuae

the drive is detected as RDB
when i boot from the amigaos3.2 install disk the hard drive partitions appear (both workbench and my games partition)

but i cant do anything with them.

if i try and format one of them. the format will look like its functioning (no errors) but does nothing and the old content just reappears afterwards

same with hdtoolbox. if i try and delete a partition or move one etc and 'save changes to drive' nothing happens at all. the data just reappears on workbench as if i never did anything.

the hard drive does say 'R/W no' in winuae
but i cant select the option to turn on Read Write because its greyed out

the drive was setup originally as PFS3.
options are IDE(auto) for the drive.

like i say this sd card functions perfectly on my amiga 1200, but with no cddrive or gotek i need winuae to install 3.2

edit - i am running winuae as admin in windows 10.
its 4.4.0 64bit version

edit - im using the kickstart 3.2 roms for A1200 on winuae

edit - i have tried copying files to the partitions and they look like they copy fine, but once i 'reset' winuae the files are gone from the partitions.
there is activity on the sdcard reader im using whenever i do any file related stuff
(same card reader i used to create the drive to start with)

any help please?

thomas · 15 August 2021, 22:32

SD cards (not micro-SD) have a write protect switch. Make sure it is write enabled.

Also try the Lock checkbox in WinUAE / Add Harddrive.

liquidsmoke · 15 August 2021, 22:44

the sd card isnt write protected and the 'lock' button in winuae is not ticked

like i said, i took this card straight from my amiga. it works perfectly there and i was copying and creating files on it just fine.

AMIGASYSTEM · 15 August 2021, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

the 'lock' button in winuae is not ticked
.

'lock' you have to tick it

liquidsmoke · 15 August 2021, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

'lock' you have to tick it

interesting. what does that do exactly?

it sounds like it would lock the drive from being written to. are you suggesting it doesnt?
kinda sounds counter intuitive.

i will check that later though when im back home.

AMIGASYSTEM · 15 August 2021, 23:52

I suggest yes, you need to add a check mark !

liquidsmoke · 16 August 2021, 00:05

i just tried adding a check mark to 'lock'

unfortunately it didnt make any difference.

i still cannot make any changes to the sd card at all.

if i try and format one of the partitions. it will look like it works, even displaying dh0:busy as it formats.
but then the old partition reappears complete with all contents and custom icons etc

same with trying to copy files or partition it.

its like the drive doesnt exist even though you can see everything on it and winuae sees and recognises it.

Jpor · 16 August 2021, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

i just tried adding a check mark to 'lock'

unfortunately it didnt make any difference.

i still cannot make any changes to the sd card at all.

if i try and format one of the partitions. it will look like it works, even displaying dh0:busy as it formats.
but then the old partition reappears complete with all coand custom icons etc

same with trying to copy files or partition it.

its like the drive doesnt exist even though you can see everything on it and winuae sees and recognises it.

So before using this on WinUAE you have used windows DiskPart to clean the SD card?

Which Kickstart ROM/workbench are you using to format the SD Card?

Which file system are you using?

The parameters you have used to setup the partitions in HDToolbox?

Have had something similar happen to me using WinUAE in the past. It can be anything from the make of SD card to the settings or ROM used.

Noticed you are using 3.2 and PFS3 with auto (IDE) in WinUAE.

Try in WinUAE from Auto (IDE) to uaehf.device
On workbench HDToolbox change the device setting by using icon->Information on workbench pull down menu to Device=uaehf.device then launch HDToolbox and try deleting and make new partition again.
Then try the format again.

Or

Use a different ROM like 3.1.4 and try using that to setup and format the partition.

fxgogo · 16 August 2021, 01:06

Just did what up or suggests today as works well. I also need to run my WinUAE as administrator when plugging in my compact flash card into my PC. If I don’t, I don’t get write access to the drive.

liquidsmoke · 16 August 2021, 07:08

they only thing ive managed to get working is to add the sd card as a hard drive and then select the option to create hard disk image file.
winuae reads the drive and creates a 15gb hdf file

that file can be used properly

all i need to do now is figure out how to write it back to the sd card once im done updating

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 August 2021, 10:04

Probably there is some incompatibility, delete all partitions on Windows with a program that manages Partitions, you must make the SD Card "RAW" without any partition and without formatting, no Filesystem must be present.

After that from HDToolBox initialize and create the partitions maybe using a good Filesystem like SFS or PFS, after that save and restart the Amiga and format "quickly" the new partitions.

Toni Wilen · 16 August 2021, 11:29

Run winuae with -log command parameter (winuae.exe -log), click Add harddrive, add the drive. (Do not load any config, do not start emulation)

Check the log window (or open winuaebootlog.txt in text editor). Does it report any errors? Or attach whole winuaebootlog.txt.

thomas · 16 August 2021, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

it sounds like it would lock the drive from being written to. are you suggesting it doesnt?

It locks the drive from Windows so that WinUAE has exclusive access to it.

If locking fails it would mean that some other program still holds it, for example the anti-virus software.

fxgogo · 16 August 2021, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

they only thing ive managed to get working is to add the sd card as a hard drive and then select the option to create hard disk image file.
winuae reads the drive and creates a 15gb hdf file

that file can be used properly

all i need to do now is figure out how to write it back to the sd card once im done updating

Just reading your message again, I think you are confusing 'hardfile' with 'hard drive'. The former creates a file that is a virtual hard drive. It is not something that the Amiga will see or understand. As Toni says in his message, you need to add a 'hard drive' which will be your SD card. Once that is done, you can go through the process with HDtoolbox and formatting.

liquidsmoke · 17 August 2021, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxgogo

Just reading your message again, I think you are confusing 'hardfile' with 'hard drive'. The former creates a file that is a virtual hard drive. It is not something that the Amiga will see or understand. As Toni says in his message, you need to add a 'hard drive' which will be your SD card. Once that is done, you can go through the process with HDtoolbox and formatting.

no im not confusing it
i use winuae to create a virtual hard drive from the sd card itself.
its an option in the hard drive menu in winuae.

i will attach a log shortly
edit - heres the log

WinUAE 4.4.0 (2020.07.01) 64-bit (10.0.19042 [2]) 64-bit 9.6.9E09 8 23:09 0
(c) 1995-2001 Bernd Schmidt - Core UAE concept and implementation.
(c) 1998-2020 Toni Wilen - Win32 port, core code updates.
(c) 1996-2001 Brian King - Win32 port, Picasso96 RTG, and GUI.
(c) 1996-1999 Mathias Ortmann - Win32 port and bsdsocket support.
(c) 2000-2001 Bernd Meyer - JIT engine.
(c) 2000-2005 Bernd Roesch - MIDI input, many fixes.
Press F12 to show the Settings Dialog (GUI), Alt-F4 to quit.
End+F1 changes floppy 0, End+F2 changes floppy 1, etc.
'C:\Program Files\WinUAE\winuae64.exe'
EXE: 'C:\Program Files\WinUAE\', DATA: 'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\', PLUGIN: 'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\'
MMAN: Total physical RAM 32702 MB, all RAM 59944 MB
MMAN: Attempting to reserve: 2048 MB
VM: Reserve 0x80000000 bytes, try address 0x80000000
VM: Reserve 0x80000000 bytes, got address 0x80000000
MMAN: Reserved 0000000080000000-0000000100000000 (0x80000000 2048M)
CLOCKFREQ: QPF 10.00MHz (5.00MHz, DIV=2)
Enumerating display devices..
Sorting devices and modes..
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER '\\.\DISPLAY1' [PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1E84&SUBSYS_31733842&REV_A1]
-: Generic PnP Monitor (3840*2160) * [\Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0004]
0: 640x480, 32-bit (59,60,100,119,120)
1: 720x480, 32-bit (59,60,100,119,120)
2: 720x576, 32-bit (50,100,119,120)
3: 800x600, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
4: 1024x768, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
5: 1152x864, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
6: 1176x664, 32-bit (50,59,60)
7: 1280x720, 32-bit (50,59,60,100,119,120)
8: 1280x768, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
9: 1280x800, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
10: 1280x960, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
11: 1280x1024, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
12: 1360x768, 32-bit (60,100,119,120)
13: 1366x768, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
14: 1600x900, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
15: 1600x1024, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
16: 1600x1200, 32-bit (120)
17: 1680x1050, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
18: 1920x1080, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
19: 1920x1200, 32-bit (120)
20: 1920x1440, 32-bit (120)
21: 2048x1536, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60)
22: 2560x1440, 32-bit (120)
23: 2560x1600, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60)
24: 3840x2160, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
25: 4096x2160, 32-bit (23,24,25,29,30,50,59,60,100,119,120)
26 display modes.
Desktop: W=3840 H=2160 B=32 HZ=120. CXVS=3840 CYVS=2160
Enumerating WASAPI devices...
Enumerating DirectSound devices..
Enumeration end
0:WA: Default Audio Device
1:WA: Headset Earphone (Arctis 7 Chat)
2:WA: Headphones (Arctis 7 Game)
3:WA: LG TV SSCR (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
4:WX: Default Audio Device
5:WX: Headset Earphone (Arctis 7 Chat)
6:WX: Headphones (Arctis 7 Game)
7:WX: LG TV SSCR (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
8

S: Primary Sound Driver
9

S: Headphones (Arctis 7 Game)
10

S: Headset Earphone (Arctis 7 Chat)
11

S: LG TV SSCR (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Enumerating recording devices:
0

S: Primary Sound Capture Driver
1

S: Headset Microphone (Arctis 7 Chat)
done
Filesystem charset (ACP=1252,FSCP=28605):
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04: 0004 05: 0005 06: 0006 07: 0007
08: 0008 09: 0009 0A: 000A 0B: 000B
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80: 20AC (0080) 81: 0081 82: 201A (0082) 83: 0192 (0083)
84: 201E (0084) 85: 2026 (0085) 86: 2020 (0086) 87: 2021 (0087)
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94: 201D (0094) 95: 2022 (0095) 96: 2013 (0096) 97: 2014 (0097)
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9C: 0153 (009C) 9D: 009D 9E: 017E (009E) 9F: 0178 (009F)
A0: 00A0 A1: 00A1 A2: 00A2 A3: 00A3
A4: 00A4 (20AC) A5: 00A5 A6: 00A6 (0160) A7: 00A7
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B0: 00B0 B1: 00B1 B2: 00B2 B3: 00B3
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BC: 00BC (0152) BD: 00BD (0153) BE: 00BE (0178) BF: 00BF
C0: 00C0 C1: 00C1 C2: 00C2 C3: 00C3
C4: 00C4 C5: 00C5 C6: 00C6 C7: 00C7
C8: 00C8 C9: 00C9 CA: 00CA CB: 00CB
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D0: 00D0 D1: 00D1 D2: 00D2 D3: 00D3
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F0: 00F0 F1: 00F1 F2: 00F2 F3: 00F3
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End
CW: No Catweasel detected
PARAPORT: no ParaPort.dll, direct parallel port emulation disabled
IPC: Named Pipe '\\.\pipe\WinUAE' open
Created internal serial port shared memory
Serial port enumeration..
SERPORT: 'Communications Port (COM1)' = 'COM1' = '\\?\acpi#pnp0501#0#{86e0d1e0-8089-11d0-9ce4-08003e301f73}'
Parallel port enumeration..
Port enumeration end
MIDI port enumeration.. IN=0 OUT=1
MIDI OUT: -1:'Microsoft MIDI Mapper' (1/1)
MIDI OUT: 0:'Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth' (1/27)
MIDI port enumeration end
RawInput enumeration..
RAWINPUT: found 12 devices
HID device check:
0000000000521CD9 2 1038/12C0 (1/12)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
00000000042A1E5F 2 1038/12C0 (1/65472)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
0000000000010078 2 1038/12AD (1/65280)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
0000000000010076 2 1038/12AD (514/65347)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0202)
0000000000020052 2 1038/12AD (1/12)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
0000000000020041 2 046D/C52B (4/65280)
RAWHID: Usage 4, reserved page FF00
0000000000020043 2 046D/C52B (2/65280)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0002)
0000000000020045 2 046D/C52B (136/65468)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0088)
0000000000020047 2 046D/C52B (1/65280)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
0000000000020049 2 046D/C52B (1/12)
RAWHID: Usage not 4 or 5 (0001)
000000000001003F 1 0051/0000 (0/12)
(55 00 53 00 42 00 20 00 52 00 65 00 63 00 65 00 69 00 76 00 65 00 72 00) 'USB Receiver'
000000000001003F 00000000000004E4 [046D/C52B] keyboard: '\\?\HID#VID_046D&PID_C52B&MI_00#7&2cfac1a2&0&0000#{884b96c3-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}'
type=81 sub=0 mode=1 fkeys=12 indicators=3 tkeys=264
0000000000010039 0 0100/0010 (0/0)
(55 00 53 00 42 00 20 00 52 00 65 00 63 00 65 00 69 00 76 00 65 00 72 00) 'USB Receiver'
0000000000010039 00000000000004E8 [046D/C52B] mouse: '\\?\HID#VID_046D&PID_C52B&MI_01&Col01#7&37f86c8e&0&0000#{378de44c-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}'
id=256 buttons=16 hw=0 rate=0
[046D/C52B] '\\?\HID#VID_046D&PID_C52B&MI_01&Col01#7&37f86c8e&0&0000#{378de44c-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}' (RAW Mouse (046D/C52B)) -> 'HID-compliant mouse'
HID-compliant mouse: [046D/C52B]
00 000 'X Axis' (0, [0 - 0, 0 - 0, 0 0 0])
01 001 'Y Axis' (1, [0 - 0, 0 - 0, 0 0 0])
02 002 'Wheel' (2, [0 - 0, 0 - 0, 0 0 0])
03 003 'HWheel' (3, [0 - 0, 0 - 0, 0 0 0])
00 000 'Button 1' (0)
01 001 'Button 2' (1)
02 002 'Button 3' (2)
03 003 'Button 4' (3)
04 004 'Button 5' (4)
05 005 'Button 6' (5)
06 006 'Button 7' (6)
07 007 'Button 8' (7)
08 008 'Button 9' (8)
09 009 'Button 10' (9)
0A 010 'Button 11' (10)
0B 011 'Button 12' (11)
0C 012 'Button 13' (12)
0D 013 'Button 14' (13)
0E 014 'Button 15' (14)
0F 015 'Button 16' (15)
02 002 'Wheel [-]' (1004)
02 002 'Wheel [+]' (1005)
03 003 'HWheel [-]' (1006)
03 003 'HWheel [+]' (1007)
DirectInput enumeration.. Game controllers..
Windowsmouse initialization..
Catweasel joymouse initialization..
wintab tablet initialization..
Tablet: no wintab32.dll
end
K 00: 'WinUAE keyboard' (NULLKEYBOARD)
K 01: 'USB Receiver' (\\?\HID#VID_046D&PID_C52B&MI_00#7&2cfac1a2&0&0000#{884b96c3-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd})
Stored port 0/0 d=0: added 200 0
Stored port 0/0 d=0: added 200 0 Windows mouse WINMOUSE1
Port0: ID 'mouse' matched
Stored port 1/0 d=0: added 0 0
Stored port 1/0 d=0: added 0 0
Port1: ID 'kbd1' matched
Port2: NONE
Port3: NONE
config reset
load config 'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\Configurations\default.uae':0
cfgfile_load_2 failed
Stored port 0/0 d=1: added 200 0 Windows mouse WINMOUSE1
Port0: ID 'mouse' matched
Stored port 1/0 d=1: added 0 0
Port1: ID 'kbd1' matched
Port2: NONE
Port3: NONE
failed to load config 'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\Configurations\default.uae'
Stored port 0/1 d=1: added 200 0 Windows mouse WINMOUSE1
Port0: COMBO 'Windows mouse' + 'WINMOUSE1' matched
Stored port 1/1 d=1: added 0 0
Port1: ID 'kbd1' matched
Port2: NONE
Port3: NONE
Stored port 0/2 d=0: added 200 0 Windows mouse WINMOUSE1
Stored port 1/2 d=0: added 0 0
'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\Configurations\configuration.cache' loaded successfully
Entering GUI idle loop
Requested GUI size = 2000x1500 (720x568)
One of the following system ROMs is required:

- KS ROM v3.0 (A1200) rev 39.106 (512k) [391523-01/391524-01]
- KS ROM v3.1 (A1200) rev 40.68 (512k) [391773-01/391774-01]
- KS ROM v3.1 (A4000)(Cloanto) rev 40.68 (512k)

Check the System ROM path in the Paths panel and click Rescan ROMs.
Got GUI size = 2000x1500
opening device '\\?\scsi#disk&ven_nvme&prod_wdc_wds500g2b0c-#5&39425569&0&000000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'WDC WDS500G2B0C-00PXH0 211070WD E823_8FA6_BF53_0001_001B_444A_44F5_C138.'
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 500107862016 (0x7470c06000)
BPS=512 Cyls=60801 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=12
device size 500107862016 (0x7470c06000) bytes
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT failed with error code 1.
opening device '\\?\scsi#disk&ven_nvme&prod_wdc_wds100t2b0c-#5&172070f&0&000000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 211070WD E823_8FA6_BF53_0001_001B_448B_4999_DEF8.'
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 1000204886016 (0xe8e0db6000)
BPS=512 Cyls=121601 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=12
device size 1000204886016 (0xe8e0db6000) bytes
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT failed with error code 1.
opening device '\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_realsil&prod_rtsuerlun0&rev_1.00#0000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00'
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 15931539456 (0x3b5980000)
BPS=512 Cyls=1936 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=11
device size 15931539456 (0x3b5980000) bytes
1 MBR partitions found
0: num: 1 type: 04 offset: 0 size: 15931539456, type not 0x76 or 0x30
non-empty MBR partition table detected, doing RDB check anyway
hd accepted (rdb detected at block 0)
opening device '\\?\scsi#disk&ven_wdc&prod_wd30ezrz-00gxcb0#4&bfdefcd&0&020000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'WDC WD30EZRZ-00GXCB0 80.00A80 WD-WCC7K0DJEF0C'
IOCTL_ATA_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT succeeded
Real harddrive IDENTITY read
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 3000592982016 (0x2baa1476000)
BPS=512 Cyls=364801 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=12
device size 3000592982016 (0x2baa1476000) bytes
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT failed with error code 1.
opening device '\\?\scsi#disk&ven_&prod_st8000dm004-2cx1#4&bfdefcd&0&010000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'ST8000DM004-2CX188 0001 WCT3H9D0'
IOCTL_ATA_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT succeeded
Real harddrive IDENTITY read
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 8001563222016 (0x74702556000)
BPS=512 Cyls=972801 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=12
device size 8001563222016 (0x74702556000) bytes
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT failed with error code 1.
opening device '\\?\scsi#disk&ven_samsung&prod_ssd_850_evo_1tb#4&bfdefcd&0&030000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB EMT03B6Q S3PLNF0J805243A'
IOCTL_ATA_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT succeeded
Real harddrive IDENTITY read
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 1000204886016 (0xe8e0db6000)
BPS=512 Cyls=121601 TPC=255 SPT=63 MediaType=12
device size 1000204886016 (0xe8e0db6000) bytes
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT failed with error code 1.
opening device '\\.\C:'
device id string: 'WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 211070WD E823_8FA6_BF53_0001_001B_448B_4999_DEF8.'
drive letter not removable, ignored
opening device '\\.\D:'
device id string: 'ST8000DM004-2CX188 0001 WCT3H9D0'
drive letter not removable, ignored
opening device '\\.\E:'
device id string: 'WDC WD30EZRZ-00GXCB0 80.00A80 WD-WCC7K0DJEF0C'
drive letter not removable, ignored
opening device '\\.\F:'
device id string: 'Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB EMT03B6Q S3PLNF0J805243A'
drive letter not removable, ignored
opening device '\\.\G:'
device id string: 'WDC WDS500G2B0C-00PXH0 211070WD E823_8FA6_BF53_0001_001B_444A_44F5_C138.'
drive letter not removable, ignored
opening device '\\.\H:'
device id string: 'ASUS DRW-24D5MT 1.00'
IOCTL_ATA_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT succeeded
Real harddrive IDENTITY read
opening device '\\.\I:'
device id string: 'Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00'
duplicate device, ignored
Drive scan result: 7 drives detected
hfd attempting to open: ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00:\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_realsil&prod_rtsuerlun0&rev_1.00#0000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00'
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 15931539456 (0x3b5980000)
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
hd accepted (rdb detected at block 0)
HDF ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00' 0000000000145170 opened, size=15558144K mode=1 empty=0
hfd attempting to open: ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00:\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_realsil&prod_rtsuerlun0&rev_1.00#0000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00'
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 15931539456 (0x3b5980000)
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
hd accepted (rdb detected at block 0)
HDF ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00' 0000000000145170 opened, size=15558144K mode=1 empty=0
hfd attempting to open: ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00:\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_realsil&prod_rtsuerlun0&rev_1.00#0000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00'
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
IOCTL_DISK_GET_LENGTH_INFO returned size: 15931539456 (0x3b5980000)
IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT: A1.08.0E.00.01.00.00.00.00.EC.00.00.
SENSE: 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.
SAT: ATA PASSTHROUGH(12) failed
hd accepted (rdb detected at block 0)
HDF ':Generic- USB3.0 CRW -SD 1.00' 0000000000142BC8 opened, size=15558144K mode=1 empty=0

Toni Wilen · 17 August 2021, 18:21

Log looks fine (IOCTL errors are normal, ATA passthrough is rare and SD isn't using ATA protocol anyway)

There is no logging if read-write open fails, it is retried in read-only mode and it seems to succeed. (Logging will be in next version, makes this situation less confusing)

Which means error is either ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT (exactly what it says) or ERROR_SHARING_VIOLATION (something else already has it open in read-write mode)

Unfortunately I have no idea what is the cause. For example it could be some anti-virus/security software.

Radertified · 17 August 2021, 18:47

To figure out what's locking the drive or file, I would suggest Process Explorer (this should be everyone's task manager replacement by default

).

- Download and run
- Go to the Find -> Find Handle or DLL menu entry.
- Type the drive name, such as H:\ and search.

It should show any processes that have a lock. From there you can release the lock, close the program, etc.

For example, I was given the following:

liquidsmoke · 17 August 2021, 20:22

i just downloaded that processexplorer

i ran winuae and mounted the sd card

then searched for I:/

(I: is always where that sd card gets assigned. ive got loads of drives in my pc)

nothing was found
not even winuae

edit - i have no anti virus software apart from the one built into windows 10

Radertified · 17 August 2021, 20:27

Ensure you use I: or I:\ instead of I:/ since Windows uses backslashes. A forward slash will bring up no results.

If that still doesn't bring up anything, then I'm not sure. As others have said, it's general an antivirus issue but we can't say for sure since every system's setup is different.

Toni Wilen · 17 August 2021, 20:41

Looking for I:\ won't help. It is not accessed via drive letter because there is no Windows compatible filesystem. Lock checkbox will unmount Windows filesystem(s) automatically if selected drive has any mounted.

This is something lower level.

15 August 2021, 19:14	#1
liquidsmoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 107	Cannot format real amiga hard drive in winuae i created a sd card image of windows 3.1 many months for my amiga 1200 now ive got amiga os 3.2 i want to format part the main partition and install 3.2 on it (the old install is too modified to update) but i cannot get the drive to function correctly in winuae the drive is detected as RDB when i boot from the amigaos3.2 install disk the hard drive partitions appear (both workbench and my games partition) but i cant do anything with them. if i try and format one of them. the format will look like its functioning (no errors) but does nothing and the old content just reappears afterwards same with hdtoolbox. if i try and delete a partition or move one etc and 'save changes to drive' nothing happens at all. the data just reappears on workbench as if i never did anything. the hard drive does say 'R/W no' in winuae but i cant select the option to turn on Read Write because its greyed out the drive was setup originally as PFS3. options are IDE(auto) for the drive. like i say this sd card functions perfectly on my amiga 1200, but with no cddrive or gotek i need winuae to install 3.2 edit - i am running winuae as admin in windows 10. its 4.4.0 64bit version edit - im using the kickstart 3.2 roms for A1200 on winuae edit - i have tried copying files to the partitions and they look like they copy fine, but once i 'reset' winuae the files are gone from the partitions. there is activity on the sdcard reader im using whenever i do any file related stuff (same card reader i used to create the drive to start with) any help please? Last edited by liquidsmoke; 15 August 2021 at 19:42.

17 August 2021, 20:22	#18
liquidsmoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 107	i just downloaded that processexplorer i ran winuae and mounted the sd card then searched for I:/ (I: is always where that sd card gets assigned. ive got loads of drives in my pc) nothing was found not even winuae edit - i have no anti virus software apart from the one built into windows 10 Last edited by liquidsmoke; 17 August 2021 at 20:28.

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15 August 2021, 22:32	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	SD cards (not micro-SD) have a write protect switch. Make sure it is write enabled. Also try the Lock checkbox in WinUAE / Add Harddrive.

15 August 2021, 22:44	#3
liquidsmoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 107	the sd card isnt write protected and the 'lock' button in winuae is not ticked like i said, i took this card straight from my amiga. it works perfectly there and i was copying and creating files on it just fine.

15 August 2021, 23:52	#6
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	I suggest yes, you need to add a check mark !

16 August 2021, 00:05	#7
liquidsmoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 107	i just tried adding a check mark to 'lock' unfortunately it didnt make any difference. i still cannot make any changes to the sd card at all. if i try and format one of the partitions. it will look like it works, even displaying dh0:busy as it formats. but then the old partition reappears complete with all contents and custom icons etc same with trying to copy files or partition it. its like the drive doesnt exist even though you can see everything on it and winuae sees and recognises it.

16 August 2021, 01:06	#9
fxgogo Also known as GarethQ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Twickenham / U.K. Posts: 715	Just did what up or suggests today as works well. I also need to run my WinUAE as administrator when plugging in my compact flash card into my PC. If I don’t, I don’t get write access to the drive.

16 August 2021, 07:08	#10
liquidsmoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 107	they only thing ive managed to get working is to add the sd card as a hard drive and then select the option to create hard disk image file. winuae reads the drive and creates a 15gb hdf file that file can be used properly all i need to do now is figure out how to write it back to the sd card once im done updating

16 August 2021, 10:04	#11
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Probably there is some incompatibility, delete all partitions on Windows with a program that manages Partitions, you must make the SD Card "RAW" without any partition and without formatting, no Filesystem must be present. After that from HDToolBox initialize and create the partitions maybe using a good Filesystem like SFS or PFS, after that save and restart the Amiga and format "quickly" the new partitions.

16 August 2021, 11:29	#12
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,503	Run winuae with -log command parameter (winuae.exe -log), click Add harddrive, add the drive. (Do not load any config, do not start emulation) Check the log window (or open winuaebootlog.txt in text editor). Does it report any errors? Or attach whole winuaebootlog.txt.

17 August 2021, 18:21	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,503	Log looks fine (IOCTL errors are normal, ATA passthrough is rare and SD isn't using ATA protocol anyway) There is no logging if read-write open fails, it is retried in read-only mode and it seems to succeed. (Logging will be in next version, makes this situation less confusing) Which means error is either ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT (exactly what it says) or ERROR_SHARING_VIOLATION (something else already has it open in read-write mode) Unfortunately I have no idea what is the cause. For example it could be some anti-virus/security software.

17 August 2021, 18:47	#17
Radertified Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: - Posts: 728	To figure out what's locking the drive or file, I would suggest Process Explorer (this should be everyone's task manager replacement by default ). - Download and run - Go to the Find -> Find Handle or DLL menu entry. - Type the drive name, such as H:\ and search. It should show any processes that have a lock. From there you can release the lock, close the program, etc. For example, I was given the following:

17 August 2021, 20:27	#19
Radertified Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: - Posts: 728	Ensure you use I: or I:\ instead of I:/ since Windows uses backslashes. A forward slash will bring up no results. If that still doesn't bring up anything, then I'm not sure. As others have said, it's general an antivirus issue but we can't say for sure since every system's setup is different.

17 August 2021, 20:41	#20
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,503	Looking for I:\ won't help. It is not accessed via drive letter because there is no Windows compatible filesystem. Lock checkbox will unmount Windows filesystem(s) automatically if selected drive has any mounted. This is something lower level.

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