TL866II Plus for Rom programming Eproms

[rabidgerry]

Originally Posted by aeberbach

You need one of these:

http://digicoolthings.com/eprom-adap...back-in-stock/

to burn Amiga ROMs with the TL866II. I'm sure there are cheaper ones but this is a quality item, happy I bought it.

For me to get that from Australia would be too expensive.

I see them same things assembled for around £20 but they have to come from Poland and since UK left EU () postage has become shocking.

Originally Posted by supaduper

Yes if you use the 27C800 (1mb) eprom then just write the file to both banks First bank 0 then bank 1, otherwise obviously if using the 27C400 (512kb) then just write to bank 1
Dont forget when using the eprom adapter to write the bins you select the AM27c4096 from the IC/device list when programming the eproms

The TL866 is a great little programer

I knew I read something like this but I couldn't re-call which rom it was and what have you.

I'm still in two minds about getting one, for all the use I will get out of it.

Got to think about it.

[rabidgerry]

Well thankfully ebay exists and I won a programmer (TL866II Plus) for £10 less than it costs on Amazon. That will take the sting out of the adapter cost I hope I don't regret this!

Just curious, I also had my eye on a programmer that had a parallel port connection, could I have got that to run on y Amiga?

I haven't seen a parallel post on a PC in a long time.

[rabidgerry]

What is the name of this adapter I need? Is it a AM27C400 TL866II adapter?

[supaduper]

One of these or similar
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133120100...YaAtzqEALw_wcB

or here
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adapter-f....c100010.m2109

[rabidgerry]

Originally Posted by supaduper

One of these or similar
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133120100...YaAtzqEALw_wcB

or here
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adapter-f....c100010.m2109

Thanks for that

[Gunship]

hi everyone
when using 27c800 is it possible to to use in a rom switcher eg 1.3 & 3.1.4 and how.
i presume write one to bank 0 and one to bank 1
and what is the purpose of byteswapping

[lesta_smsc]

Originally Posted by Gunship

hi everyone
when using 27c800 is it possible to to use in a rom switcher eg 1.3 & 3.1.4 and how.
i presume write one to bank 0 and one to bank 1
and what is the purpose of byteswapping

Yes this is possible, in fact, I think there is a similar product on eBay with official licenced ROMs if you want a ready made solution with the ROM itself:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Licen...-/123235816403

[solarmon]

I've just ordered a TL866II Plus programmer, and also getting Keir Fraser's EPROM adapter v4:

https://github.com/keirf/PCB-Project...ROM-Adapter-v4

[wiz12]

Originally Posted by solarmon

I've just ordered a TL866II Plus programmer, and also getting Keir Fraser's EPROM adapter v4:

https://github.com/keirf/PCB-Project...ROM-Adapter-v4

Is it possible to buy this adapter anywhere or do you get it straight from Keir?

[solarmon]

Originally Posted by wiz12

Is it possible to buy this adapter anywhere or do you get it straight from Keir?

I couldn't find the v4 adapter sold on eBay. Yes, I have purchased the adapter in kit form direct from Keir.

[rabidgerry]

It took a long time, but I finally burned roms and I think they are working believe it or not.

Of course I had to build a little adapter to allow 25c400 to be burned but I surprisingly managed that even with tiny components I could barely even see!!

So I burned the Hi rom first. Next I tried to burn the lo rom. But it kept failing. I tried another 27c400 and it seemed to burn fine.

Two questions, why might one chip fail to burn?

2nd question. Do these rom chips erase in sunlight or did I just make that up? Do I need to sticker them up covering that little window?

Any advice would be great so thanks in advance.

It was nice to finally find out that my programmer isn't fake, unless it is a fake but happens to work!!

[supaduper]

Yes chips can and will be faulty like any eproms I have had many no good.

Best to sticker over the window as it will just protect it from early erasure, sunlight would take weeks/months to erase one, its the ultraviolet spectrum that is used to erase them.
A cheap chineesium ultraviolet erasure is about 20 quid, you will need one if you did lots of eprom programming

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383939652...Cclp%3A2334524

[rabidgerry]

Originally Posted by supaduper

Yes chips can and will be faulty like any eproms I have had many no good.

Best to sticker over the window as it will just protect it from early erasure, sunlight would take weeks/months to erase one, its the ultraviolet spectrum that is used to erase them.
A cheap chineesium ultraviolet erasure is about 20 quid, you will need one if you did lots of eprom programming

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383939652...Cclp%3A2334524

Ok so perhaps I got a dud.

Anyway of using software to check if it's a the chip is a dud? Or is the fact I'm using a programmer not really designed for 27C400 compromise this or retrieving worthwhile data?

I'll sticker the two roms up that seem to have been successful. Now I only checked the version in early startup boot with no startup sequence, where I got kickstart 47.96, would this be ok to assume the roms have been programmed ok? I didn't go further as it was on an Amiga with 3.0 installed so all kinds of errors where happening when I tried to let WB load.

[supaduper]

The adapter you used to program is designed for the 27c400 and 27c800 so no problem there, if you are coming up with errors on boot then it must be the system you have installed, what have you flashed on the eproms..3.1 ? and what system are you running on the A1200 ?

[rabidgerry]

Originally Posted by supaduper

The adapter you used to program is designed for the 27c400 and 27c800 so no problem there, if you are coming up with errors on boot then it must be the system you have installed, what have you flashed on the eproms..3.1 ? and what system are you running on the A1200 ?

Ok so I was lazy! I was just checking with the Amiga as is right now you see. I have another Amiga1200 (the one I tested on) and it has a mechanical HD with WB3.0 on it. The roms I programmed where the OS3.2 roms so I know I'd need some changes made for that WB3.0 drive to work. But since I'm not keeping the drive as it's tiny I was just testing as is before I stick a CF hard drive in there with either 3.2 or 3.1. I have both setup on cards. Not quite ready to give up on 3.1 yet I was just wondering have I been successful or not, but I assume as I ran that command and got 47.96 back that I've done the job ok.

[supaduper]

Yeah really I would just go with 3.2 system as you will be chasing your tail trying to get it to run with 3.0 or 3.1

[rabidgerry]

Happy days!



I have actually managed to get it work ok with 3.1, just need to add the workbench.library and icon.library from 3.2 and cancel a loadmodule scsi line from startup sequence!

I am now able to program roms

[supaduper]

Well done, its all great fun aint it

[rabidgerry]

Originally Posted by supaduper

Well done, its all great fun aint it

the best fun I ever had

[nogginthenog]

Originally Posted by supaduper

A cheap chineesium ultraviolet erasure is about 20 quid, you will need one if you did lots of eprom programming

I love the fact these Chinese UV erasers use a *clockwork* timer