Mac titles for CD32 via Shapeshifter? - Page 5

wairnair · 04 August 2019, 16:58

Auto-start is off until I figure out scripting or go down the 1-OS-per-game route that Retro1234 advised. The latter requires SS to be configured per game too, another thing I don't know how to do yet.

No prob, I enjoyed fiddling around with it.

edit: on a sidenote, we might as well have one big hvf file with OS+all games and start them with mouse but that kind of defeats the purpose. I'd like to just pick a game with earok's menu and see it all start.

DamienD · 04 August 2019, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by wairnair

The latter requires SS to be configured per game too, another thing I don't know how to do yet.

I might be able to assist with that; can you give more details on what the issue is exactly? PM me if you like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wairnair

I'd like to just pick a game with earok's menu and see it all start.

That should definitely be doable; maybe I need to look at earok's menu system to see how different games are launched.

Assuming it's via various scripts.

DamienD · 04 August 2019, 18:30

Been playing POP2; have only had the intro load / play once properly out of say 10 attempts.

Also, finished the first stage numerous times but you don't get to see cut scene afterwards.

Finally, the game requires a manual... after entering the cave at the start of stage 2 you are presented with this:

Retro1234 · 04 August 2019, 20:20

Were there any Resolution settings when installing POP 2?

I've messed around with ShapeShifter settings and the game started 9 times out of 10 but I don't know if this is because of what I changed or just luck.

wairnair · 05 August 2019, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I might be able to assist with that; can you give more details on what the issue is exactly? PM me if you like.

That should definitely be doable; maybe I need to look at earok's menu system to see how different games are launched.

Assuming it's via various scripts.

Yeah, it starts scripts defined in a menu.txt file. Each menu page is in a separate folder. There is only one, Menu0. Inside Menu0 are the starter scripts for the two games currently.

We would need to configure ShapeShifter from the command line to tell it where the OS HDD file of the particular game is.
I've found this in SS's manual:

"FILE <filename> - Loads the settings from the specified file"

That will do I guess. It still bothers me a bit to duplicate the OS for each game, but it works.

Another question is: what games? They should be playable on a 030 and with a joypad.

wairnair · 05 August 2019, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Were there any Resolution settings when installing POP 2?

nope

wairnair · 05 August 2019, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Been playing POP2; have only had the intro load / play once properly out of say 10 attempts.

Also, finished the first stage numerous times but you don't get to see cut scene afterwards.

Finally, the game requires a manual... after entering the cave at the start of stage 2 you are presented with this:

Yeah it's very messy. Sometimes it's surprisingly smooth, I'd say better than POP1. Sometimes it's completely crap.

Wonder how it works on real hw..

wairnair · 05 August 2019, 18:59

Updated the hdf in the Zone. It now has separate OS's for POP 1 & 2 and auto-starts the games.

DamienD · 05 August 2019, 20:00

Cool, I'll test it out

DamienD · 05 August 2019, 20:24

Looking good

...but I still don't understand why only 1 time out of 10 I see the intro properly; usually after "a game by Jordan Mechner" it's just black in the frame.

Also, still no cut scene after finishing the 1st level; I mean, you see it flash for 1 second then.

Are you guys not experiencing these issues?

Nobby_UK · 05 August 2019, 21:43

Just Cycles the Intro + Demo
Until I select 'New Game' from pull down menu.
(Ah it says that in the Pre Text)
A bit Slow even for an 030 with 64 Meg

What to do in Pop2 ?
Kill the dude I imagine
(lowering oneself over edge = Death)
but I could not do it

DamienD · 05 August 2019, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

What to do in Pop2 ?
Kill the dude I imagine
(lowering oneself over edge = Death)
but I could not do it

Kill the guy and others, and just keep going left through a few screens. Eventually you lower yourself down a building and escape onto a ship

If you need assistance then watch this walkthrough of the 1st stage / part of the 2nd stage:

[ Show youtube player ]

Galahad/FLT · 06 August 2019, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Been playing POP2; have only had the intro load / play once properly out of say 10 attempts.

Also, finished the first stage numerous times but you don't get to see cut scene afterwards.

Finally, the game requires a manual... after entering the cave at the start of stage 2 you are presented with this:

Is there a save position before this?

Is it easy to get to?

drHirudo · 06 August 2019, 16:31

Macintosh Prince of Persia 2 is very hard to emulate on any Mac emulator. Usually it lacks the in game music, or sound is garbled.

Here is a proper longplay video that I made some time ago:

[ Show youtube player ]

But even without sound it is still good game with excellent graphics. (better than the DOS version). Too bad it was never released on Amiga, so we have to use the Mac version.

DamienD · 06 August 2019, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Is there a save position before this?

I can give you one when I'm home tonight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Is it easy to get to?

Pretty easy, just watch the video I posted here:

[ Show youtube player ]

Once on the 2nd stage, you cross the stones and enter the cave; this is when the protection check kicks in.

malko · 06 August 2019, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Is there a save position before this?

Is it easy to get to?

Long time not played this game but if my memory serves me well, the first level is only a fight/run/jump (left direction) util you hang yourself on a boat.
Quickly done. Think the protection check appears as soon as you enter a cave after you wake up on an island.

Edit: drHirudo & DamienD were faster

Retro1234 · 06 August 2019, 18:23

I've read that POP 2 is a bit problematic under emulation

ShapeShifter does have Frame Skip option.

at some point ill try and get Blackthorn and Alone In the Dark in the Zone.

wairnair · 06 August 2019, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

I've read that POP 2 is a bit problematic under emulation

ShapeShifter does have Frame Skip option.

at some point ill try and get Blackthorn and Alone In the Dark in the Zone.

Blackthorne seems a good candidate from the CD32 aspect.
Alone in the Dark less so, it'll be just too slow.
But you guys play under emu, right? Not an issue then.

Retro1234 · 06 August 2019, 20:16

Alone in the Dark will probably be ok, it was not to bad on my 68030

The display option allows a lower res screen normally this appears in Quite a small window but settings ShapeShifter to 320*256 I think I can't quite remember the game is displayed full screen.

chip · 06 August 2019, 20:25

ALONE IN THE DARK ? ...... WONDERFUL

I played all the 3 first episodes on PC

04 August 2019, 20:20	#84
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Were there any Resolution settings when installing POP 2? I've messed around with ShapeShifter settings and the game started 9 times out of 10 but I don't know if this is because of what I changed or just luck. Last edited by Retro1234; 04 August 2019 at 20:35.

05 August 2019, 21:43	#91
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	Just Cycles the Intro + Demo Until I select 'New Game' from pull down menu. (Ah it says that in the Pre Text) A bit Slow even for an 030 with 64 Meg What to do in Pop2 ? Kill the dude I imagine (lowering oneself over edge = Death) but I could not do it Last edited by Nobby_UK; 22 November 2021 at 19:01.

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04 August 2019, 16:58	#81
wairnair Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Budapest Posts: 355	Auto-start is off until I figure out scripting or go down the 1-OS-per-game route that Retro1234 advised. The latter requires SS to be configured per game too, another thing I don't know how to do yet. No prob, I enjoyed fiddling around with it. edit: on a sidenote, we might as well have one big hvf file with OS+all games and start them with mouse but that kind of defeats the purpose. I'd like to just pick a game with earok's menu and see it all start.

04 August 2019, 18:30	#83
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Been playing POP2; have only had the intro load / play once properly out of say 10 attempts. Also, finished the first stage numerous times but you don't get to see cut scene afterwards. Finally, the game requires a manual... after entering the cave at the start of stage 2 you are presented with this:

05 August 2019, 18:59	#88
wairnair Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Budapest Posts: 355	Updated the hdf in the Zone. It now has separate OS's for POP 1 & 2 and auto-starts the games.

05 August 2019, 20:00	#89
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Cool, I'll test it out

05 August 2019, 20:24	#90
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Looking good ...but I still don't understand why only 1 time out of 10 I see the intro properly; usually after "a game by Jordan Mechner" it's just black in the frame. Also, still no cut scene after finishing the 1st level; I mean, you see it flash for 1 second then. Are you guys not experiencing these issues?

06 August 2019, 16:31	#94
drHirudo Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sofia / Bulgaria Posts: 455	Macintosh Prince of Persia 2 is very hard to emulate on any Mac emulator. Usually it lacks the in game music, or sound is garbled. Here is a proper longplay video that I made some time ago: [ Show youtube player ] But even without sound it is still good game with excellent graphics. (better than the DOS version). Too bad it was never released on Amiga, so we have to use the Mac version.

06 August 2019, 18:23	#97
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I've read that POP 2 is a bit problematic under emulation ShapeShifter does have Frame Skip option. at some point ill try and get Blackthorn and Alone In the Dark in the Zone.

06 August 2019, 20:16	#99
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Alone in the Dark will probably be ok, it was not to bad on my 68030 The display option allows a lower res screen normally this appears in Quite a small window but settings ShapeShifter to 320*256 I think I can't quite remember the game is displayed full screen.

06 August 2019, 20:25	#100
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	ALONE IN THE DARK ? ...... WONDERFUL I played all the 3 first episodes on PC

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