Chasing the fastest configuration.

masteripper · 19 April 2021, 17:19

Hi
I want to build a minimal installation for Lightwave rendering
Which should be the speediest configuration for Full HD rendering.
It should run on a low end PC ..but i might consider a beefier alternative.
So in terms of Configuration low level e.g Kickstart,CPU emulation,RTG etc up to the OS selection what is the best

fxgogo · 19 April 2021, 19:02

I am running a 3.1.4 A1200 030 with32mb of ram and a A4000 3.1 with 256mb of ram. The latter has the Picasso96 drivers where as the former does not as that often will be on my real A1200. I have WinUAE set to go as fast as possible on both emulations, so the CPU does not make a difference.

I think some hardware experts might be able to give you the extreme details.

rutra80 · 19 April 2021, 19:41

If your software doesn't require anything better than 020 without FPU and MMU then it will be the fastest. Enable JIT, disable emulation of anything unnecessary, use UAE RTG, New UAE 128k Direct ROM. Kickstart 3.1 or 3.1.4.

masteripper · 19 April 2021, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rutra80

If your software doesn't require anything better than 020 without FPU and MMU then it will be the fastest. Enable JIT, disable emulation of anything unnecessary, use UAE RTG, New UAE 128k Direct ROM. Kickstart 3.1 or 3.1.4.

Lightwave uses FPU if i am not mistaken

jotd · 19 April 2021, 21:54

There's a lightwave version for windows. Wouldn't it be faster to use it instead?

rutra80 · 19 April 2021, 22:19

Then I guess 020 + 68881 set to Host (64-bit) will be fastest.

masteripper · 19 April 2021, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

There's a lightwave version for windows. Wouldn't it be faster to use it instead?

Yes but where is the fun...

.. "a kind of "...fill the right word...." for all the endless hours waiting for a single frame back in the 90s

fxgogo · 20 April 2021, 00:55

I have been having so much fun with Cinema 4D on the Amiga. I forgot how hard it was to light back then

Rotareneg · 20 April 2021, 00:56

It's neat to fire up old 3D rendering software and do things you wouldn't have dreamed about back in the day, like rendering in 8k to get antialiased 4k images.

https://i.imgur.com/ZggK61g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EH00OWG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OHejoyu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nnoYlb4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YwBd7CZ.jpg

Ah, I just noticed Imgur redirects mobile users to their crap site that gives a horrible blurry thumbnail even when directly linking the full sized images, sorry, guess it's time to find another free image host...

I'm not really clear if there's any functional difference between emulated CPU/FPU types when using JIT mode, but as most of the software I used back in the day targeted 020/030 I went with 030+882.

klx300r · 20 April 2021, 03:34

@ masteripper

You should have a look here https://amigaraytracers.com/

masteripper · 20 April 2021, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

@ masteripper

You should have a look here https://amigaraytracers.com/

This will be my next stop ...

fxgogo · 20 April 2021, 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotareneg

I'm not really clear if there's any functional difference between emulated CPU/FPU types when using JIT mode, but as most of the software I used back in the day targeted 020/030 I went with 030+882.

Good point. We did get the 040 in the 4000, but it was so late in the Amigas life, not sure the software was written specifically for it.

Like your Vista Pro renders. That is one piece of software that is showing it’s age, but with some massaging, will create nice renders.

rutra80 · 20 April 2021, 09:55

020 emulation is faster than 030 & 040, especially with data cache emulation etc. So if something doesn't need 030/040 instructionset, it will run faster on emulated 020.

masteripper · 20 April 2021, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by rutra80

020 emulation is faster than 030 & 040, especially with data cache emulation etc. So if something doesn't need 030/040 instructionset, it will run faster on emulated 020.

I will start testing and get back.

Rotareneg · 20 April 2021, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxgogo

Vista Pro renders.

VistaPro?!? Infidel!!! I was one of the few who followed the true fractal faith, Panorama!

Ok, I did also play around a bit with Vista too, I remember rendering an 8 meg looping animation flying through Yosemite that took like a day (or at least overnight) to render on an A1200.

fxgogo · 20 April 2021, 17:56

You have me intrigued. I have never heard of that. Googling as we speak...Ok, I can't find anything of note. Please fill me in on this program. I would love to have a play with it.

Rotareneg · 20 April 2021, 18:12

It's very obscure. You can find the 4 disks for version 3 and the 4.01 update disk on the file server under TOSEC/Applications. My manual for version 3 is falling apart so I really should type it up and upload it somewhere for posterity.

fxgogo · 20 April 2021, 18:15

Definitely. Scan that manual ASAP. Gonna download and give it a go. Thanks

Rotareneg · 25 April 2021, 15:28

Ok, scanned the manual: https://archive.org/details/panorama-amiga-images

19 April 2021, 17:19	#1
masteripper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Greece Posts: 33	Chasing the fastest configuration. Hi I want to build a minimal installation for Lightwave rendering Which should be the speediest configuration for Full HD rendering. It should run on a low end PC ..but i might consider a beefier alternative. So in terms of Configuration low level e.g Kickstart,CPU emulation,RTG etc up to the OS selection what is the best Last edited by masteripper; 19 April 2021 at 17:50.

20 April 2021, 00:56	#9
Rotareneg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Kansas, USA Posts: 324	It's neat to fire up old 3D rendering software and do things you wouldn't have dreamed about back in the day, like rendering in 8k to get antialiased 4k images. https://i.imgur.com/ZggK61g.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EH00OWG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OHejoyu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nnoYlb4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YwBd7CZ.jpg Ah, I just noticed Imgur redirects mobile users to their crap site that gives a horrible blurry thumbnail even when directly linking the full sized images, sorry, guess it's time to find another free image host... I'm not really clear if there's any functional difference between emulated CPU/FPU types when using JIT mode, but as most of the software I used back in the day targeted 020/030 I went with 030+882. Last edited by Rotareneg; 20 April 2021 at 17:09.

20 April 2021, 17:56	#16
fxgogo Also known as GarethQ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Twickenham / U.K. Posts: 715	You have me intrigued. I have never heard of that. Googling as we speak...Ok, I can't find anything of note. Please fill me in on this program. I would love to have a play with it. Last edited by fxgogo; 20 April 2021 at 18:14.

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19 April 2021, 19:02	#2
fxgogo Also known as GarethQ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Twickenham / U.K. Posts: 715	I am running a 3.1.4 A1200 030 with32mb of ram and a A4000 3.1 with 256mb of ram. The latter has the Picasso96 drivers where as the former does not as that often will be on my real A1200. I have WinUAE set to go as fast as possible on both emulations, so the CPU does not make a difference. I think some hardware experts might be able to give you the extreme details.

19 April 2021, 19:41	#3
rutra80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Poland Posts: 308	If your software doesn't require anything better than 020 without FPU and MMU then it will be the fastest. Enable JIT, disable emulation of anything unnecessary, use UAE RTG, New UAE 128k Direct ROM. Kickstart 3.1 or 3.1.4.

19 April 2021, 21:54	#5
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	There's a lightwave version for windows. Wouldn't it be faster to use it instead?

19 April 2021, 22:19	#6
rutra80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Poland Posts: 308	Then I guess 020 + 68881 set to Host (64-bit) will be fastest.

20 April 2021, 00:55	#8
fxgogo Also known as GarethQ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Twickenham / U.K. Posts: 715	I have been having so much fun with Cinema 4D on the Amiga. I forgot how hard it was to light back then

20 April 2021, 03:34	#10
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	@ masteripper You should have a look here https://amigaraytracers.com/

20 April 2021, 09:55	#13
rutra80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Poland Posts: 308	020 emulation is faster than 030 & 040, especially with data cache emulation etc. So if something doesn't need 030/040 instructionset, it will run faster on emulated 020.

20 April 2021, 18:12	#17
Rotareneg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Kansas, USA Posts: 324	It's very obscure. You can find the 4 disks for version 3 and the 4.01 update disk on the file server under TOSEC/Applications. My manual for version 3 is falling apart so I really should type it up and upload it somewhere for posterity.

20 April 2021, 18:15	#18
fxgogo Also known as GarethQ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Twickenham / U.K. Posts: 715	Definitely. Scan that manual ASAP. Gonna download and give it a go. Thanks

25 April 2021, 15:28	#19
Rotareneg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Kansas, USA Posts: 324	Ok, scanned the manual: https://archive.org/details/panorama-amiga-images

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