10 January 2022, 17:33 | #1 |
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Cdtv os 2.35
Has anyone any experience with the below and how does this compare to the improvements that Hyperion have done?
https://cdtvland.com/os235/ From their page: Support for systems with 68030 CPUs Support for systems with 32-bit Fast RAM Memory card support restored for CDTV players CD+G functionality restored for CDTV players Buffer overflow bug fixed in bookmark.device CD-ROMs will now boot even without CDTV.tm file Ability to access the CDTV title screen when a harddisk is installed Option to force exit CDTV title screen OS build target device ID on CDTV title screen No error screen when no disk drive connected to CDTV player |
11 January 2022, 00:12 | #2 |
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Honestly, reading the linked page, it sounds like the whole Cloanto vs Hyperion vs everyone else legal battle is the only thing that's really preventing (most of) this work from being integrated into OS 3.2+. (If I'm wrong and there are other legal issues preventing the work from being added, I'll be sad.)
It might even be that this will already integrate with the great work done with 3.1.4 and 3.2+ but it would be up to C4ptFuture to say so. |
11 January 2022, 04:08 | #3 |
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The boot any disk feature looks interesting:
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11 January 2022, 07:24 | #4 |
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He is speaking to the wrong company. Hyperion have an exclusive licence so there is no point asking Cloanto for permission, as they have no right to give such permission.
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16 January 2022, 03:14 | #5 |
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This looks awesome, maybe I’ll try it on my CDTV.
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They misled people about the origins of the new Extended ROM in the release documentation implying it had been recompiled from sources. They misled people about the state of the extended ROM source code they have access to. They misled people about the nature of the bugs in the Extended ROM. I like the Amiga OS 3.2 developers but whoever is producing this are using underhanded practices. Best to just stay away from it and release binary patches. Last edited by alexh; 16 January 2022 at 14:56. |
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From what I know (and I'm no expert) Cloanto's original licence for existing AmigaOS 3.x binaries dates to 1997 and so predates any licences Amiga inc later agreed with Hyperion to exclusively develop AmigaOS 4.x which were made in 2001 You can read all about it in the court documents Last edited by alexh; 17 January 2022 at 10:14. |
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I'm not happy with the situation either, as most Amiga users probably, because it's a fucking energy drain to work around it, but I simply try to approach it pragmatically without emotion or fanboyism. |
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24 January 2022, 23:54 | #11 |
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Anyone who wants to use v2.3.5 with Amiga Forever, note that the file you want to apply the patch to is actually amiga-os-130-a570-ext.rom, NOT amiga-os-230-cdtv-ext.rom.
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25 January 2022, 10:49 | #12 |
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@CaptFuture
In my view, you have done well in asking the IP holder and not the licensee, because as you said they are currently litigating in the US court. That license may or may not be confirmed, let alone Cloanto have had an earlier license since the 1990s. Beside that and importantly, many many thanks to you and all involved for developing the patch for the 2.35. It works great on my CDTVs (one with witcher, another with the SCSI adapter/ACE2/8MB fast ram). It is good to see some love for the CDTV and a gift to the community. |
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The developer is really nice too and is open to suggestions for future versions, he even produced a file (In the Zone called cdtvstop)which allows you to boot games such as Dread without having to switch off the CD manually
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26 January 2022, 19:23 | #14 |
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I created the "CDTV Extended-ROM v2.35 (2021)(CDTV Land)(CDTV)" rom as per the instructions using bspatch, however when trying to split this rom into even and odd modules using ROMsplit I get the following error. Anyone else have this problem?
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You don't need ROMsplit, just cut the file in two equal parts. |
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27 January 2022, 03:23 | #17 |
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The program should produce 3 files - ODD, EVEN and a single combined file for use in WinUAE:
How to apply the patch Using Docker image Requirements: Intel based macOS or Linux operating system Make Docker The official CDTV 2.30 Extended ROM image (md5 sum: d98112f18792ee3714df16a6eb421b89) Steps: Place the official 2.30 ROM in the root of this project directory Rename it to 230.rom Run the following command make cdtvos235rom You can also run the docker command directly if you prefer: docker run --rm -v $(pwd):/data captainfuture/cdtvos235patch:1.0.1 /appl/run.sh If the patch was succesful, you will end up with three new files in the current directory: Filename Description CDTV Extended-ROM v2.35 (2021)(CDTV Land)(CDTV).rom This is the 2.35 ROM image you can use in emulators CDTV_v2_35_U34_Even.bin this is the split "even" binary of the 2.35 ROM image that you can use to burn to an 27c000 EPROM CDTV_v2_35_U35_Odd.bin this is the split "odd" binary of the 2.35 ROM image that you can use to burn to an 27c000 EPROM |
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I know using Linux does all this for you but I used bspatch on Windows since I don't use Linux to create the new rom. It only created the new rom file and not the two Odd and Even files.
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27 January 2022, 13:48 | #19 |
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Docker is available for Windows as well, but honestly to simply set up the ROM and the split binaries having a requirement on it is just too much.
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27 January 2022, 13:58 | #20 |
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Hi,
I don't use Linux - I downloaded a Virtualbox image and then set it up from there - no easy task though as each time i put something in I had to look on youtube and forums to sort the problem - 8 hours later and it finally worked |
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