Luma - level 33, help needed - Page 3

kremiso · 22 January 2023, 12:10

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Originally Posted by malko

I have revisited level 39 to try to also reach 11 shifts left, and... managed to finish it with 13 shifts lefts.
You know what ? I'm happy

maybe the developer could consider some type of score, considering the remaining shifts? or a game variant, added to the existent practice and normal

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Originally Posted by manossg

Damn, you guys are machines!

are you still in trouble?
i like this kind of puzzle games, with unlimited attempts (i mean restarting the level) and no time limit

one week ago i have re-tried Deflekor, and i was not able to complete even level one

maybe i'll return to that, but only if i will reach to complete this before

manossg · 22 January 2023, 13:25

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Originally Posted by kremiso

are you still in trouble?
i like this kind of puzzle games, with unlimited attempts (i mean restarting the level) and no time limit

No trouble (YET), mate, thanks! It's just that, because I am also a huge fan of casual, no-timer, no-finite-lives puzzlers, I am restricting myself to only one level per session, so as to artificially extend the longevity of the game! :P

malko · 22 January 2023, 14:26

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Originally Posted by kremiso

[...] i like this kind of puzzle games, with unlimited attempts (i mean restarting the level) and no time limit [...]

IMO except for a "Insert coin" message, on most of the puzzler games, I see no added value.

malko · 23 January 2023, 00:10

This evening go allowed me to reach level 70 (to play next time).
Had remaining shifts at level 57 (1), 58 (2), 59 (7), 60 (6) & 67 (4).

malko · 23 January 2023, 23:43

A smaller jump with this evening go. Only up to level 76 (to be played next time).
Level 70 being tougher, I am particularly pleased that I managed to finish it with remaining shifts: level 70 (45).

kremiso · 24 January 2023, 10:53

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Originally Posted by malko

...Only up to level 76...

only? more than 20 levels in two days is a great result

some levels after level 50 are starting to become much more tricky than the previous, requiring as you also well said, time

malko · 25 January 2023, 23:09

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Originally Posted by kremiso

only? more than 20 levels in two days is a great result

[...]

This "only" was more a "way of speaking" than something else

.
But compared to the others evening progress, it has a kind of logic

.

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Originally Posted by kremiso

[...] some levels after level 50 are starting to become much more tricky than the previous, requiring as you also well said, time

I would say that real fun begins with level 70 (until you get the good idea to solve it). Then there are some relatively not so complicated levels until you gain level 88 that is again more challenging.

With this evening go I reached level 90 (will be played next time - at first sight, it looks already to be a tricky one - we will see).
Continuing from my last go, here are my remaining shifts : level 76 (6), 79 (6), 80 (5), 84 (3), 85 (3), 86 (12), 87 (1), 88 (29).

malko · 27 January 2023, 00:20

Humm... This evening had to give up on level 96. Let's see if a good night

will help in solving it next time...
So, continuing from my last go, here are my remaining shifts : level 90 (2), 91 (2), 93 (2).

malko · 28 January 2023, 00:09

The sleep was a good idea.

Luma has kind of "rendering issue" (don't have a better description) in the sense that the colour that is below on the screen overrides the colour that is above when two different lasers meet each others. This was particularly disturbing for level 96 until I realise that I should look at the wanted path and not on the colours that are on the screen

.
Anyway I found level 96 to be a though one.
So this evening go leaded me to level 104 (next to be played) and I had remaining shifts at levels 97 (2), 98 (1), 99 (14), 102 (2) and 103 (6).

malko · 29 January 2023, 23:02

With this evening go I reached level 113 but had to give up... Looks like I need a sleep and return another day to win it

.
Continuing from where I left my last go, I had remaining shifts at levels 104 (7), 107 (3), 109 (6), 111 (2) and 112 (2).

malko · 30 January 2023, 09:13

Sleeping on it was definitely a good idea. Fired up quickly the game this morning and made the level 113 right at first try

.

kremiso · 30 January 2023, 12:02

congrats malko, seems you are very close

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Originally Posted by malko

...Anyway I found level 96 to be a though one...

interesting, that level is also marked with double asterisks on ztronzo list;
i'm wondering if a screenshot with the last positioning could help for the tougher levels

malko · 30 January 2023, 16:41

A screenshot with the last positioning will for sure help even if you will have to figure out the needed moves to build it. But in the other hand it may also remove some of the pleasure...
I plan to record a 'one shot' go some time after finishing the game (depending on available spare time - like I did here for Wizzy's Quest) as well as watching ztronzo stream to compare our solutions (when remaining shifts happens it means that more than one solution is possible).

If you need specific help on a particular level, don't hesitate

malko · 31 January 2023, 00:11

With this evening go I reached level 128 but did not manage to win it

. Looks like it is one of these level I need to sleep on it

...

Remaining shifts at levels 114 (11), 115 (10), 116 (3), 117 (11), 118 (4), 119 (4), 120 (8), 122 (2), 124 (2) and 125 (2).

Level codes that were previously unknown have now been added to HOL.

TCD · 31 January 2023, 04:51

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Originally Posted by malko

Level codes that were previously unknown have now been added to HOL.

Well done and good luck on your journey

malko · 31 January 2023, 10:36

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Originally Posted by TCD

Well done and good luck on your journey

Thanks

BtW : if you want to help by solving only the last level (code : AGRE), it's with pleasure as yesterday I saw how to solve it in 8 but not in the 7 required moves..

malko · 03 February 2023, 09:51

Anybody out there that succeeded level 128 in 7 moves ?

Wayne · 03 February 2023, 21:41

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Originally Posted by malko

Anybody out there that succeeded level 128 in 7 moves ?

Yes, have completed it a month ago. It is not that hard, in case you would like to compare the solution, I took a screen back then

malko · 03 February 2023, 23:00

I am sure it's not that hard (as the whole game is accessible) but at the end it is the first and only level of the game where I cannot see how to solve it (in 7 shifts). For sure I haven't see something obvious

.
So with pleasure, a final screenshot or an animated gif of the level ; whatever you have would suit

.

Wayne · 04 February 2023, 20:46

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Originally Posted by malko

So with pleasure, a final screenshot or an animated gif of the level ; whatever you have would suit

.

Finished Luma level 128

23 January 2023, 23:43	#45
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	A smaller jump with this evening go. Only up to level 76 (to be played next time). Level 70 being tougher, I am particularly pleased that I managed to finish it with remaining shifts: level 70 (45). Last edited by malko; 24 January 2023 at 07:46.

30 January 2023, 16:41	#53
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	A screenshot with the last positioning will for sure help even if you will have to figure out the needed moves to build it. But in the other hand it may also remove some of the pleasure... I plan to record a 'one shot' go some time after finishing the game (depending on available spare time - like I did here for Wizzy's Quest) as well as watching ztronzo stream to compare our solutions (when remaining shifts happens it means that more than one solution is possible). If you need specific help on a particular level, don't hesitate Last edited by malko; 31 January 2023 at 00:23. Reason: typo and rephrasing

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23 January 2023, 00:10	#44
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	This evening go allowed me to reach level 70 (to play next time). Had remaining shifts at level 57 (1), 58 (2), 59 (7), 60 (6) & 67 (4).

27 January 2023, 00:20	#48
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Humm... This evening had to give up on level 96. Let's see if a good night will help in solving it next time... So, continuing from my last go, here are my remaining shifts : level 90 (2), 91 (2), 93 (2).

28 January 2023, 00:09	#49
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	The sleep was a good idea. Luma has kind of "rendering issue" (don't have a better description) in the sense that the colour that is below on the screen overrides the colour that is above when two different lasers meet each others. This was particularly disturbing for level 96 until I realise that I should look at the wanted path and not on the colours that are on the screen . Anyway I found level 96 to be a though one. So this evening go leaded me to level 104 (next to be played) and I had remaining shifts at levels 97 (2), 98 (1), 99 (14), 102 (2) and 103 (6).

29 January 2023, 23:02	#50
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	With this evening go I reached level 113 but had to give up... Looks like I need a sleep and return another day to win it . Continuing from where I left my last go, I had remaining shifts at levels 104 (7), 107 (3), 109 (6), 111 (2) and 112 (2).

30 January 2023, 09:13	#51
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Sleeping on it was definitely a good idea. Fired up quickly the game this morning and made the level 113 right at first try .

31 January 2023, 00:11	#54
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	With this evening go I reached level 128 but did not manage to win it . Looks like it is one of these level I need to sleep on it ... Remaining shifts at levels 114 (11), 115 (10), 116 (3), 117 (11), 118 (4), 119 (4), 120 (8), 122 (2), 124 (2) and 125 (2). Level codes that were previously unknown have now been added to HOL.

03 February 2023, 09:51	#57
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Anybody out there that succeeded level 128 in 7 moves ?

03 February 2023, 23:00	#59
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	I am sure it's not that hard (as the whole game is accessible) but at the end it is the first and only level of the game where I cannot see how to solve it (in 7 shifts). For sure I haven't see something obvious . So with pleasure, a final screenshot or an animated gif of the level ; whatever you have would suit .

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