How many games were made for Amiga?

Photon · 12 May 2017, 21:42

All this excludes PD.

From HOL only, I ended up with 3814 to 6486 games, depending on what you count as "a game that you can play". In other words, at least one known physical or digital copy that it's documented that someone owns, or owned and reviewed. (That's just one of the many definitions...)

The 3814 minimum estimate should be relatively trouble-free, i.e. no variants, unpublished games and the like.

But are there different numbers, say from counting TOSEC games? Says something like 20000+, but that is counting each disk and alternate crack, and it would obviously have to be unique titles and exclude platform and language variants.

I'm sure someone sits on the answer and maybe asked before, but time for an updated number?

Cheers // Photon

Retro-Nerd · 12 May 2017, 22:00

Unless you don't try to collect any Amiga game ever made you'll never know. With all the commercial, PD, shareware, freeware whatever Amiga games i could imagine 10000+, the 20000+ guess doesn't sound realistic.

happymondays · 12 May 2017, 22:02

If you take all freeware and PD games, demos of unreleased games (still playable), I guess it is impossible to count. Not even sure all of those were preserved in any way. Or only commercial games?

Seiya · 13 May 2017, 02:59

i think he intends only commercial games

Photon · 13 May 2017, 03:16

As "All this excludes PD" would suggest

Probably I mean games that were sold (for more than a Shareware fee). You know, like Giana Sisters, or Turrican, or Bombuzal. Games bundled with Amigas (i.e. not the normal boxed stuff with manuals) are included as well, but it seems unlikely that any of those had not been sold before.

Dumb question: Is the TOSEC list available in database/CSV format somewhere?

Daff · 13 May 2017, 09:11

Photon : I count 5149 commercial games from my own Amiga games list (from 1985 to 2016, for all Amiga flavors).

5149 without compilations but with unreleased games which have a playable demo/beta version.

Mrz · 13 May 2017, 09:25

daff is right
there are around 5000 commercial amiga games which of course most of them are crap of course, you can rescue around 200

idrougge · 13 May 2017, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

Dumb question: Is the TOSEC list available in database/CSV format somewhere?

On tosecdev.org, it is available in a structured format, albeit not CSV.

TOSEC is in fact just a list of hashes and filenames, nothing more.

12 May 2017, 21:42	#1
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	How many games were made for Amiga? All this excludes PD. From HOL only, I ended up with 3814 to 6486 games, depending on what you count as "a game that you can play". In other words, at least one known physical or digital copy that it's documented that someone owns, or owned and reviewed. (That's just one of the many definitions...) The 3814 minimum estimate should be relatively trouble-free, i.e. no variants, unpublished games and the like. But are there different numbers, say from counting TOSEC games? Says something like 20000+, but that is counting each disk and alternate crack, and it would obviously have to be unique titles and exclude platform and language variants. I'm sure someone sits on the answer and maybe asked before, but time for an updated number? Cheers // Photon

12 May 2017, 22:00	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Unless you don't try to collect any Amiga game ever made you'll never know. With all the commercial, PD, shareware, freeware whatever Amiga games i could imagine 10000+, the 20000+ guess doesn't sound realistic. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 13 May 2017 at 14:05.

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12 May 2017, 22:02	#3
happymondays Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Szeged Posts: 219	If you take all freeware and PD games, demos of unreleased games (still playable), I guess it is impossible to count. Not even sure all of those were preserved in any way. Or only commercial games?

13 May 2017, 02:59	#4
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,342	i think he intends only commercial games

13 May 2017, 03:16	#5
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	As "All this excludes PD" would suggest Probably I mean games that were sold (for more than a Shareware fee). You know, like Giana Sisters, or Turrican, or Bombuzal. Games bundled with Amigas (i.e. not the normal boxed stuff with manuals) are included as well, but it seems unlikely that any of those had not been sold before. Dumb question: Is the TOSEC list available in database/CSV format somewhere?

13 May 2017, 09:11	#6
Daff Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dijon / France Posts: 173	Photon : I count 5149 commercial games from my own Amiga games list (from 1985 to 2016, for all Amiga flavors). 5149 without compilations but with unreleased games which have a playable demo/beta version.

13 May 2017, 09:25	#7
Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	daff is right there are around 5000 commercial amiga games which of course most of them are crap of course, you can rescue around 200

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