Bridgeboard emulation (x86 CPU, for example A2286)

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Arnie

The thing is, with Janus enabled and AT IDE enabled, (hard drive added as AT-IDE) nothing boots, just a blinking cursor. Also tried with a floppy in A: at boot, I just get "Starting MS-DOS..."

Should the AT-IDE HD boot with Janus enabled?

I'm using A3000 wb2 config.

Did you rename or delete sys:pc/system/aboot.ctrl to disable janus hardfile. I think it will always attempt to boot from aboot.ctrl file if it exists.

[Arnie]

Tried renaming aboot.ctrl, tried renaming DriveC, tried with no DriveC. At the moment nothing is booting with Janus enabled except the Janus Hardfile.

I'm going to start from scratch and try again, I've got that many different setups now, I don't know which one does what.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Arnie

Tried renaming aboot.ctrl, tried renaming DriveC, tried with no DriveC. At the moment nothing is booting with Janus enabled except the Janus Hardfile.

I'm going to start from scratch and try again, I've got that many different setups now, I don't know which one does what.

Arnie, I am attaching a hardfile PC-32M and my config file, you just have to change the path of the file with your file paths, and add your Amiga OS. Started the DOS, if required, go into the BIOS and stores content that you see without touching anything. If you are using an OS that functions AMOUSE Amiga with Kick 1.3, preferably 060 / Jit / 128 Z3 Fast

[AnnaWu]

Windows 3.11 in 386 enhanced mode (not standard mode) is working with the original A2386SX Bridgeboard hardware?

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Tried to install Windows 95 and it went well for most of the installation, after installing Windows Components, black screen with flashing prompt.

[AnnaWu]

68030 CPU
KS 2.04
A2386SX
IDE Primary
VGA
AMouse installed

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

68030 CPU
KS 2.04
A2386SX
IDE Primary
VGA
AMouse installed

Filesystem that you used OFS or FFS?
With XIDE Uninersal Bios it does not work?

[AnnaWu]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Filesystem that you used OFS or FFS?
With XIDE Uninersal Bios it does not work?

I don't care about OFS or FFS.
Also I am tired to make an test with XIDE Universal Bios again.
If you have still problems with higher KS version, faster CPU and AMouse then try to remove the lines with 'SMARTDRV.EXE', 'HIMEM.SYS' and 'DOS=high,umb' in your config.sys and autoexec.bat (PC side).

[AMIGASYSTEM]

For the test it is important to know, with OFS to me it works perfectly with any OS and any CPU, even when configured with XIDE Uninersal Bios, AMOUSE and it works even if there are "SMARTDRV.EXE', 'HIMEM.SYS. Just to understand, if possible, You tell me about what filesystem you installed your OS 2.04, thanks

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Arnie, I am attaching a hardfile PC-32M and my config file, you just have to change the path of the file with your file paths, and add your Amiga OS. Started the DOS, if required, go into the BIOS and stores content that you see without touching anything. If you are using an OS that functions AMOUSE Amiga with Kick 1.3, preferably 060 / Jit / 128 Z3 Fast

Your config is crazy! 68060 and KS 1.3 and JIT and approximate speed? If you want help, use configurations that actually exist in real world..

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Your config is crazy! 68060 and KS 1.3 and JIT and approximate speed? If you want help, use configurations that actually exist in real world..

There is reason Toni my config are crazy, but they work well, everything is faster, convenient when you do the test, I know it's unreal, but it is right to know that the 060 will also work on older OS; of course we must adapt Startup otherwise the systems do not start. In [ Show youtube player ] my videos like this, OS 1.3 e really set on 060, create a Hardfile 32MB with standard WB1.3 Janus takes a minute, with Os 1.3/060 Janus creates Hardfile 32MB in only 1 or 2 seconds.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

There is reason Toni my config are crazy, but they work well, everything is faster, convenient when you do the test, I know it's unreal, but it is right to know that the 060 will also work on older OS; of course we must adapt Startup otherwise the systems do not start. In my videos like this, OS 1.3 e really set on 060, create a Hardfile 32MB with standard WB1.3 Janus takes a minute, with Os 1.3/060 Janus creates Hardfile 32MB in only 1 or 2 seconds.

You do know that there is no speed difference whatsoever between 68020 and 68060 in emulation? Just use 68020.

If config is weird or can't exist in real world or didn't exist when used software or hardware was released: you are on your own.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I know Toni and agree more with you that there is no difference in emulation, but for the reasons explained above, generally i find it more convenient to work with increased CPU!

Thanks for your patience with me!

[Dunny]

I think what Toni is getting is that you should only test the bridgeboards with the Amiga models that they were intended to work with when they were manufactured. If you start changing things (like adding an 060, using JIT) and it doesn't work, then it doesn't mean that the emulation is broken.

D.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Dunny

I think what Toni is getting is that you should only test the bridgeboards with the Amiga models that they were intended to work with when they were manufactured. If you start changing things (like adding an 060, using JIT) and it doesn't work, then it doesn't mean that the emulation is broken.

Exactly. Always use normal config before even thinking about reporting anything.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Dunny

I think what Toni is getting is that you should only test the bridgeboards with the Amiga models that they were intended to work with when they were manufactured. If you start changing things (like adding an 060, using JIT) and it doesn't work, then it doesn't mean that the emulation is broken.
D.

This is granted, tests do them with the Amiga standard configuration, then I finished the test feel the extreme configurations.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Did some testing with the games and I have to say that a good work, successfully tested various Doom although they are a little slow.

[tlosm]

The goldengate was the best bridgeboard ;-) when tony will emulate it you will see everything will work great Doom too :-P

[Toni Wilen]

Also about OFS. Do you really think everyone used OFS when Janus 2.x was released (1990 or so). FFS has already been standard for years. Probably only A1060 users (had) to use OFS, at least until later.

Only possible reason is some KS 1.3 FFS bug. (I don't think any A2286+ user used 1.3..). There are many very easy ways to test this, don't jump to conclusions!

And never just say "not working", it only means post will be ignored and I will get more annoyed.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Hello Toni, do not consider my terms of writing, because it can only be the result of not exact translations (I will try in the future to avoid the term "not working"). Regarding the operation of AMOUSE, to me it sounds strange that a system OS2.x / OS3.x installed on hardfile FFS not start, and then the on the same system copied hardfile formatted OFS AMOUSE hassle starts. In my humble opinion it, can not be software problem; if the way I discuss gratido not here, I can not write in the future