Msx Thread !!! - Page 5

Shatterhand · 13 October 2001, 07:31

Bleh, I was trying to help and only made things worse..

Aleste 2 needs this minimal configuration to run:

MSX 2
64 KBs of Ram
720 Kb Disk-Drive
Fm-Pac optional

you DON'T NEED any memory expansion to play it

that's what I wanted to say from the beginning

RetroMan · 13 October 2001, 10:37

Now I got it

Ah anyway, I´m still trying to complete The Castle so no need for a new game yet

But I have tried KNIGHTMARE (SHMUPS) and MAGICAL KID WIZ (JUMP`NRUN) yesterday they are also very kewl, especially KNIGHTMARE rox

RetroMan · 13 October 2001, 11:44

Just seen that currently is a TOSEC MSX flood on alt.binaries.emulators.misc

Edit : these are the ones I grabbed :

Bouken Roman (1986)(Systemsoft).ROM
Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp).rom
1942 (1987)[Bad].ROM
Legend Of Kage, The (1986)(Taito)[a1].ROM
Knight Mare (1986)(Konami)(SCC).rom
Boulder Dash (1986)(Orpheus).rom
Dragon Quest 2 (1987)(Enix)(Jp)[a].rom
Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b3].rom
Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b2].ROM
Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b].rom
Crusader (1986)(Pony)[b].rom
EElslid (19xx)(NCS)(Jp).rom
Druid (1987)(Dexter)[b2].rom
Druid (1987)(Dexter)[b].rom
Druid (1987)(Dexter).ROM
Dragon Slayer 4 - Drasle Family (1987)(Falcom)[o].rom
Zexas Limited (Y)(Db-Soft).rom
Skyjaguar (1984)(Konami).ROM
Wedding Bells (1984)(Colpax).rom
Snake It (1986)(Eaglesoft).ROM
Twin Bee (1986)(Konami)[a1].rom
Konami's Baseball (1984)(Konami)[a].rom
Konami's Tennis (1984)(Prosoft)(RC-720).rom
Konami's Synthesizer (1986)(Konami).rom
Gun Fright (1986)(Sammi).rom
Zaxxon (1981-85)(Sega).ROM
Young Sherlock (1985)(Amblin-Paramount).Rom
Yie Ar Kung-Fu II - The Emperor Yie-Gah (1985)(Konami)(SCC).rom
ZZZ-UNK-Nergooli (1985)(TecnoSoft).rom
Xevious (1988)(Namcot).rom
Xizolog (1984)(Taito).rom
Xizolog (1984)(Taito)[Alt].ROM
Kimpo (1984)(Boram By Klaus).rom
Dragon Quest 2 (1997)(Enix)(Jp)[b2].ROM
King's Valley (1985)(Konami)[a].rom
Video Hustler (1984)(Konami)(SD Snatcher RAM SCC+).rom
Venus Fire (Y)(Victor Musical Industries Inc.).Rom
Dragon Quest 2 (1987)(Enix)(Jp)[b].rom
Twin Hamer (1989)(Best).ROM
Flicky (1985)(Sega)[b].rom
Twin Bee (1986)(Konami)(The Snatcher RAM SCC+).rom
Super Soccer (1985)(Sony Corp & Takara).rom
Super Golf (1984)(Comtec Co. Ltd.).rom
Star Force (1985)(Tehkan And Hudson Soft).rom
Spy Vs Spy II (1986)(Orpheus).rom
Sokoban (1983-84)(Ascii Corp.).rom
Sinbad (19xx)(-)[b].ROM
Senjyo (1984)(Tehkan Ltd.)[a].rom
AAndrogynus (1988)(Telenet)[b3].rom
Artic (19xx)(Pony Canyon).ROM

any rare ones ?? Shatterhand ??

Shatterhand · 14 October 2001, 01:31

Most games in this list are good... who are those guys behind this Tosec stuff for MSX? Knightmare and Yie-ar Kung-Fu 2 has NO SCC. and what the hell is "Twin Bee (1986)(Konami)(The Snatcher RAM SCC+).rom " ?

Twin Bee has NO SCC, The Snatcher is a game in disk format, and SD Snatcher is a game in disk format that asks for a SCC+ to run..

Eelslid, Wedding Bells, ZZZ-UNK-Nergooli . Twin Hamer and Super Golf are games from this list I've never heard about it.. I would like to take a look at them..

Xizolog is spely with Y (Xyzolog) and Aandrogynus is spelt just Androgynus

Bah, I could join the Tosec team and teach a few things to them

Knightmare is indeed fantastic.. Magical Kid Wiz is fun, nothing great.

Oh yeah, maybe you would like to take a look at my list of MSX games... Those are the ones in my PC HD, I have more in MSX disks

RetroMan · 14 October 2001, 01:47

Soooooo, I was able to get some more, btw. I really don´t care about TOSEC renaming, anyway, if you want some, please make a list here and I´ll send them to you (E-Mail ???) ..... i´ll have a look at your list soon too

Damn, I really have to get myself a disk drive (AND a MegaRom *hint*hint*hint*

)

Shatterhand · 14 October 2001, 03:15

hey, good colection you got there, I don't have a few of those games...

There are some brazilian games in this collections, and others cracked by brazilian groups (Like Nemesis)

Just a warning, be ready, because you got a few really shitty games..

(Corsarios, Chicagos 30 and The crap Bubble Bobble from Zemina are a few to mention.. always avoid games from Opera Soft and Zemina, as they are the crappiest from the crap.. Zemina wasn't even a legitimate softwarehouse, they only made l bootlegs, and unoficial conversions (like this Bubble Bobble you got, the oficial is from Taito for MSX 2). Their only good games are Super Boy 2 & 3, clones of Super Mario Bros. And I can't name one single good game from Opera Soft )

I would like to get my hands in a few of those games.. I won't ask all I don't have, just the ones I got interested:

Boynight. Haunted House. Yokew (1986)(Casio)(Jp).rom ( I bet this is Haunted Boys, as some Casio games are known with many different names. If isn't, I believe it's the only Casio game I don't have)

Exterminator (1987)(Bytebusters).dsk
Ghostflisters. Ghost Flipper (1984)(Ascii).dsk
Hard Boiled (1987)(Methodic Solutions).dsk
Hero X (1985)(-).dsk
Ice World (1985)(Casio).dsk (Ok, I lied, if this isn't Ski Commander, I don't have this one too.)
Hostages (-)(Infogrames).dsk (Do u have any idea if this is working? ALL disk versions of Hostages I got didn't work, they all crashed in the 2nd part of the game)
International Karate (1986)(Aictive).dsk (My copy stopped working

)
Kimpo (1984)(Boram By Klaus).rom
Macattack (1986)(Bytebusters).dsk
Mega Desolators (E)(-)(Colin Dooley).dsk (Desolator from Colin
Dooley it's one of the best Defender clones ever, and if this Mega Desolators isn't the same game, it gotta be good)
Wedding Bells (1984)(Colpax).rom

For now, I just want those

If you don't mind, zip them and send them to lima83@bol.com.br , and I will be thankfull

Twistin'Ghost · 14 October 2001, 04:17

Heck, zip 'em up and post to the zone, as I wouldn't mind grabbing that set, as well. Just be sure and include Boynight Haunted House as well, regardless of which version!

RetroMan · 14 October 2001, 23:44

Ok, the games are in THE ZONE

@Shatterhand

Sorry, but I didn´t found any time yet, to test those games, so I couldn´t say, if any particular game is working or not.....

Have fun with those .....

Twistin'Ghost · 15 October 2001, 04:34

Thanks. I can add these to the rest of that massive MSX thread from usenet. I missed most of the previous MSX thread (The MSX Story, as it was dubbed), so I was ecstatic to see it get another go, if under a new name. All of those tiny obscure 8-bit formats get reposted in that group probably three times a week and that gets old.

Thanx again, Retroman!

15 October 2001, 06:32

I'm thinking about getting a MSX2 with a 3.5" drive in the near future but there is a lot of models and manufacturers, so what is the best MSX2 model and company (Sony or Phillips)?

Also, if anybody wants msx disks I have a lot of TOSEC disks, so just ask for it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Shatterhand
Just a warning, be ready, because you got a few really shitty games.. (Corsarios, Chicagos 30 and The crap Bubble Bobble from Zemina are a few to mention.. always avoid games from Opera Soft and Zemina, as they are the crappiest from the crap

MSX games from spanish company Opera Soft are crap coz they're shitty spectrum conversions. If you want a good Opera game and can read Spanish try 'La Abadia del Crimen', this is simply the best CPC game ever.

RetroMan · 15 October 2001, 08:08

Hmmm, that´s only my opinion, but I think Sony built better MSX1 and Philips built better MSX2 .............

RetroMan · 15 October 2001, 14:04

Hmmm, anyone got $200 for me

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1285486776

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I would die for such baby

Amiga1992 · 15 October 2001, 18:49

OH SHIT! this seller is great, i bought Gradius 2 from him...

Retroman, I think Sony did GREAT MSX2 machines, teh HBF1XDJ is a fabulous sleek machine.

I'd go for a (what brandwas it?) Wavy... Great MSX2+ model.

RetroMan · 15 October 2001, 19:13

Oh damn, I wish I would have that much money now

But I think shipping from Japan to Germany would cost another $50 or anything around it

That´s not fair

Ah well, I think I will complete THE CASTLE today, I got the second red key and still 8 Lives left ...... after that I will play some games out of the Tosec flood on a.b.e.m

@Akira : did you allready tested THE CASTLE ?

Amiga1992 · 15 October 2001, 19:37

50 bucks by surface

Anyway, NO I didnt try any other frigging game after my soundcard got busted! And Im not trying again, pilf PC soundcards. I rather make a proper cable OR buy a stupid 5 1/4 drive for my PC.

Then im in for fun

RetroMan · 15 October 2001, 21:21

Hmmm, I mentioned it before, I got 5 or 6 disk drives here (5 1/4") and I would send you one (shipping would be like $15 or so), just tell me if you want one ...... if so, I would test all of them this weekend and send you one 100% working .... that would be no problem at all ....

Shatterhand · 16 October 2001, 04:39

Thx Retroman, I'll download the pack as soon as I read all new posts, and I'll test them by myself

@ Uukrul
I know only a few MSX models, so I can't help yah about. I bet Akira and Retroman, being the retro-enthusiastics they are, know better than me

And about Opera Soft, I know all they did was shitty Spectrum conversions (Actually, they also made a few souped up MSX 2 games, one of them are Goody), but Topo Soft and Dinamic are 2 companies who only made spectrum conversions too, and they did some very good games for MSX.

Opera soft games were crap already in the Spectrum

And about La Abadia Del Crimen.. well, yeah, I know this game, it and indeed is a favourite between 9 out of 10 MSX users.. but I am the 1 out of 10 who doesn't like it. It may even have a cool plot, but the game it's too obscure, it took me about a week to figure out that I had to sit in the right position of the table in the dinner to not be banned from the abadia, and those change camera angles when you leave a room makes too easy to get lost in the abadia.

The game is SO obscure that I only say a complete solution for it in 1996...

If you like it so much, look for the recent remake of it for MSX 2

16 October 2001, 06:05

The Philips 8245 is a good MSX2?

And about spanish games, you'll find all of them (8 and 16 bits) and also a crappy Abu Simbel Profanation remake for Amiga

here: http://www.computeremuzone.com/

RetroMan · 16 October 2001, 08:28

Well, the Philips NMS 8245 is a rather rare one .... it was one of the first MSX2 that appeared and got 128KB of RAM ..... I really can´t say much about it, since I never saw one

But since it´s rare, it´s allways cool to get one

Edit : Just wanted to say, that I just got myself a 3,5" Disk Drive with FDD Controller from Ebay for about $20

I call this a BARGAIN !!!!!!!!

Shatterhand · 17 October 2001, 04:28

bah, damn Tosec renaming... Mega Desolators indeed was Desolator, and Nightboy indeed was Haunted Boys..

About La Abadia Del Crimen... this game was also released for PC, in a time when Opera was also publishing 16 bits titles. I know they published stuff for Amiga too, so who knows, maybe there's a version for Amiga?

@retroman

way to go

now you can have lots of games and load them quickly and safely (i.e. , not running the risk to blow your soundcard like Akira..

)

13 October 2001, 11:44	#83
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Just seen that currently is a TOSEC MSX flood on alt.binaries.emulators.misc Edit : these are the ones I grabbed : Bouken Roman (1986)(Systemsoft).ROM Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp).rom 1942 (1987)[Bad].ROM Legend Of Kage, The (1986)(Taito)[a1].ROM Knight Mare (1986)(Konami)(SCC).rom Boulder Dash (1986)(Orpheus).rom Dragon Quest 2 (1987)(Enix)(Jp)[a].rom Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b3].rom Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b2].ROM Famicle Parodic (1988)(Bit2)(Jp)[b].rom Crusader (1986)(Pony)[b].rom EElslid (19xx)(NCS)(Jp).rom Druid (1987)(Dexter)[b2].rom Druid (1987)(Dexter)[b].rom Druid (1987)(Dexter).ROM Dragon Slayer 4 - Drasle Family (1987)(Falcom)[o].rom Zexas Limited (Y)(Db-Soft).rom Skyjaguar (1984)(Konami).ROM Wedding Bells (1984)(Colpax).rom Snake It (1986)(Eaglesoft).ROM Twin Bee (1986)(Konami)[a1].rom Konami's Baseball (1984)(Konami)[a].rom Konami's Tennis (1984)(Prosoft)(RC-720).rom Konami's Synthesizer (1986)(Konami).rom Gun Fright (1986)(Sammi).rom Zaxxon (1981-85)(Sega).ROM Young Sherlock (1985)(Amblin-Paramount).Rom Yie Ar Kung-Fu II - The Emperor Yie-Gah (1985)(Konami)(SCC).rom ZZZ-UNK-Nergooli (1985)(TecnoSoft).rom Xevious (1988)(Namcot).rom Xizolog (1984)(Taito).rom Xizolog (1984)(Taito)[Alt].ROM Kimpo (1984)(Boram By Klaus).rom Dragon Quest 2 (1997)(Enix)(Jp)[b2].ROM King's Valley (1985)(Konami)[a].rom Video Hustler (1984)(Konami)(SD Snatcher RAM SCC+).rom Venus Fire (Y)(Victor Musical Industries Inc.).Rom Dragon Quest 2 (1987)(Enix)(Jp)[b].rom Twin Hamer (1989)(Best).ROM Flicky (1985)(Sega)[b].rom Twin Bee (1986)(Konami)(The Snatcher RAM SCC+).rom Super Soccer (1985)(Sony Corp & Takara).rom Super Golf (1984)(Comtec Co. Ltd.).rom Star Force (1985)(Tehkan And Hudson Soft).rom Spy Vs Spy II (1986)(Orpheus).rom Sokoban (1983-84)(Ascii Corp.).rom Sinbad (19xx)(-)[b].ROM Senjyo (1984)(Tehkan Ltd.)[a].rom AAndrogynus (1988)(Telenet)[b3].rom Artic (19xx)(Pony Canyon).ROM any rare ones ?? Shatterhand ?? Last edited by RetroMan; 13 October 2001 at 12:07.

16 October 2001, 08:28	#99
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, the Philips NMS 8245 is a rather rare one .... it was one of the first MSX2 that appeared and got 128KB of RAM ..... I really can´t say much about it, since I never saw one But since it´s rare, it´s allways cool to get one Edit : Just wanted to say, that I just got myself a 3,5" Disk Drive with FDD Controller from Ebay for about $20 I call this a BARGAIN !!!!!!!! Last edited by RetroMan; 16 October 2001 at 22:21.

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13 October 2001, 07:31	#81
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Bleh, I was trying to help and only made things worse.. Aleste 2 needs this minimal configuration to run: MSX 2 64 KBs of Ram 720 Kb Disk-Drive Fm-Pac optional you DON'T NEED any memory expansion to play it that's what I wanted to say from the beginning

13 October 2001, 10:37	#82
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Now I got it Ah anyway, I´m still trying to complete The Castle so no need for a new game yet But I have tried KNIGHTMARE (SHMUPS) and MAGICAL KID WIZ (JUMP`NRUN) yesterday they are also very kewl, especially KNIGHTMARE rox

14 October 2001, 03:15	#86
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	hey, good colection you got there, I don't have a few of those games... There are some brazilian games in this collections, and others cracked by brazilian groups (Like Nemesis) Just a warning, be ready, because you got a few really shitty games.. (Corsarios, Chicagos 30 and The crap Bubble Bobble from Zemina are a few to mention.. always avoid games from Opera Soft and Zemina, as they are the crappiest from the crap.. Zemina wasn't even a legitimate softwarehouse, they only made l bootlegs, and unoficial conversions (like this Bubble Bobble you got, the oficial is from Taito for MSX 2). Their only good games are Super Boy 2 & 3, clones of Super Mario Bros. And I can't name one single good game from Opera Soft ) I would like to get my hands in a few of those games.. I won't ask all I don't have, just the ones I got interested: Boynight. Haunted House. Yokew (1986)(Casio)(Jp).rom ( I bet this is Haunted Boys, as some Casio games are known with many different names. If isn't, I believe it's the only Casio game I don't have) Exterminator (1987)(Bytebusters).dsk Ghostflisters. Ghost Flipper (1984)(Ascii).dsk Hard Boiled (1987)(Methodic Solutions).dsk Hero X (1985)(-).dsk Ice World (1985)(Casio).dsk (Ok, I lied, if this isn't Ski Commander, I don't have this one too.) Hostages (-)(Infogrames).dsk (Do u have any idea if this is working? ALL disk versions of Hostages I got didn't work, they all crashed in the 2nd part of the game) International Karate (1986)(Aictive).dsk (My copy stopped working ) Kimpo (1984)(Boram By Klaus).rom Macattack (1986)(Bytebusters).dsk Mega Desolators (E)(-)(Colin Dooley).dsk (Desolator from Colin Dooley it's one of the best Defender clones ever, and if this Mega Desolators isn't the same game, it gotta be good) Wedding Bells (1984)(Colpax).rom For now, I just want those If you don't mind, zip them and send them to lima83@bol.com.br , and I will be thankfull

14 October 2001, 04:17	#87
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Heck, zip 'em up and post to the zone, as I wouldn't mind grabbing that set, as well. Just be sure and include Boynight Haunted House as well, regardless of which version!

14 October 2001, 23:44	#88
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Ok, the games are in THE ZONE @Shatterhand Sorry, but I didn´t found any time yet, to test those games, so I couldn´t say, if any particular game is working or not..... Have fun with those .....

15 October 2001, 04:34	#89
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Thanks. I can add these to the rest of that massive MSX thread from usenet. I missed most of the previous MSX thread (The MSX Story, as it was dubbed), so I was ecstatic to see it get another go, if under a new name. All of those tiny obscure 8-bit formats get reposted in that group probably three times a week and that gets old. Thanx again, Retroman!

15 October 2001, 08:08	#91
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, that´s only my opinion, but I think Sony built better MSX1 and Philips built better MSX2 .............

15 October 2001, 14:04	#92
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, anyone got $200 for me http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1285486776 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I would die for such baby

15 October 2001, 18:49	#93
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	OH SHIT! this seller is great, i bought Gradius 2 from him... Retroman, I think Sony did GREAT MSX2 machines, teh HBF1XDJ is a fabulous sleek machine. I'd go for a (what brandwas it?) Wavy... Great MSX2+ model.

15 October 2001, 19:13	#94
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Oh damn, I wish I would have that much money now But I think shipping from Japan to Germany would cost another $50 or anything around it That´s not fair Ah well, I think I will complete THE CASTLE today, I got the second red key and still 8 Lives left ...... after that I will play some games out of the Tosec flood on a.b.e.m @Akira : did you allready tested THE CASTLE ?

15 October 2001, 19:37	#95
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	50 bucks by surface Anyway, NO I didnt try any other frigging game after my soundcard got busted! And Im not trying again, pilf PC soundcards. I rather make a proper cable OR buy a stupid 5 1/4 drive for my PC. Then im in for fun

15 October 2001, 21:21	#96
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, I mentioned it before, I got 5 or 6 disk drives here (5 1/4") and I would send you one (shipping would be like $15 or so), just tell me if you want one ...... if so, I would test all of them this weekend and send you one 100% working .... that would be no problem at all ....

16 October 2001, 04:39	#97
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Thx Retroman, I'll download the pack as soon as I read all new posts, and I'll test them by myself @ Uukrul I know only a few MSX models, so I can't help yah about. I bet Akira and Retroman, being the retro-enthusiastics they are, know better than me And about Opera Soft, I know all they did was shitty Spectrum conversions (Actually, they also made a few souped up MSX 2 games, one of them are Goody), but Topo Soft and Dinamic are 2 companies who only made spectrum conversions too, and they did some very good games for MSX. Opera soft games were crap already in the Spectrum And about La Abadia Del Crimen.. well, yeah, I know this game, it and indeed is a favourite between 9 out of 10 MSX users.. but I am the 1 out of 10 who doesn't like it. It may even have a cool plot, but the game it's too obscure, it took me about a week to figure out that I had to sit in the right position of the table in the dinner to not be banned from the abadia, and those change camera angles when you leave a room makes too easy to get lost in the abadia. The game is SO obscure that I only say a complete solution for it in 1996... If you like it so much, look for the recent remake of it for MSX 2

16 October 2001, 06:05	#98
Uukrul Posts: n/a	The Philips 8245 is a good MSX2? And about spanish games, you'll find all of them (8 and 16 bits) and also a crappy Abu Simbel Profanation remake for Amiga here: http://www.computeremuzone.com/

17 October 2001, 04:28	#100
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	bah, damn Tosec renaming... Mega Desolators indeed was Desolator, and Nightboy indeed was Haunted Boys.. About La Abadia Del Crimen... this game was also released for PC, in a time when Opera was also publishing 16 bits titles. I know they published stuff for Amiga too, so who knows, maybe there's a version for Amiga? @retroman way to go now you can have lots of games and load them quickly and safely (i.e. , not running the risk to blow your soundcard like Akira.. )

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