Ik+(++)

Herpes · 24 March 2013, 21:21

Hi, there!

I don't know whether it belongs here - so please dear MOD feel free to move this post - thanks.

Recently I got seriously pissed off by my favorite party game IK+ since the actual games is every second round disrupted by the annoying ball-deflection or bomb-kicking game. Since I did not find a ready solution I had to do it myself and debugged with Winuae and patched the game. Then I wrote a little boring intro and put the stuff together and nothing worked

I changed to Stingrays startup-code which really is great and will be used from now on all the time I need it - but still had troubles with the loader.
Fortunately I found a small binary, and used the crunched bin to include it at the end of my intro - had to do some mem-"relocation" to make it work and appply the patch after decrunching with also 512KB (thanks Stingray again, for answering my questions).

Anyway the game is much more fun now without the disruptions.
Hope you also enjoy it. If you find some bugs please tell me - it took me a while to see that after the patch the levels were counting wrong so I had to check that again, and afterwards with 512KB I noticed that the fighters were not reset after entering the next level - so possible there is still something although it looked quite ok - but I have to admit I'm hardly able to reach level 17...

Making this patch and the intro was real fun and I could learn a lot especially how to startup properly

But the game code of IK+ is really a mess - but maybe that's the case with most of the games.

I upped Ik+++ to the zone.

Adio!

Predseda · 24 March 2013, 21:52

Nice idea, although I like those sub games.

alkis21 · 24 March 2013, 22:29

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've wanted this option for a very long time!

Now, if only StingRay would write a WHDLoad patch for it...

StingRay · 24 March 2013, 22:33

Updating the IK+ patch and adding an option to skip the sub-games is not much of a problem, personally I like them though. IK+ has been patched by Wepl, I'll see what he says about an updated patch so either him or me will do it.

lilalurl · 24 March 2013, 22:45

Thanks, it is pretty interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Nice idea, although I like those sub games.

I am waiting for people who will ask Herpes for a version which skip the annoying battles allowing you to only play the sub games

.

In one player-game I don't have an issue with the sub games, but it is true that when playing with a friend it was a bit of a bother sometimes if you tried to play them seriously (instead of dying as soon as possible) as it meant the other player had nothing to do for a while.

Predseda · 24 March 2013, 22:49

We need a patch for 2nd player that would allow him to control those balls and bombs then

TCD · 24 March 2013, 22:49

What about a balls vs. bombs 2 player sub-game?

Predseda · 24 March 2013, 22:58

If I think about that now.... no, I dont want other player to play with my balls.

TCD · 24 March 2013, 23:01

If you put it that way... you got a point there.

Retro-Nerd · 24 March 2013, 23:03

A 3-Player patch would be nice too. Just like IK+ Gold for the C64.

Minuous · 25 March 2013, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilalurl

I am waiting for people who will ask Herpes for a version which skip the annoying battles allowing you to only play the sub games

.

Yes, I'd be interested in subgames-only version(s).

Bamiga2002 · 25 March 2013, 13:52

Now we're onto something! I proposed similar things in a thread many moons ago too

spoUP · 25 March 2013, 23:39

+1 for 3 player patch. Maybe even a 4-player hack would be possible on the amiga?

TjLaZer · 25 March 2013, 23:56

Nice, I'll give it a go on my NTSC A500. Hope it works well!

lesta_smsc · 26 March 2013, 00:58

Not sure how... I thought it only allowed 2 players, unless there is a way to take control of CPU into character?

pmc · 26 March 2013, 08:30

Good stuff this Herpes - nice to see a trainer release for 2013

daxb · 26 March 2013, 11:45

Thanks for it. The subgames are really boring after some time. Just wait for WHDLoad install.

TjLaZer · 31 March 2013, 05:55

Does not work on NTSC. Shame. Works on PAL but it has a large gap at the bottom of the screen. Do all the IK+ games require PAL and don't use the whole screen????

Herpes · 31 March 2013, 11:17

@all: thanks for the nice ideas ... it looks that there is potential to waste a huge amount of time for me adding some more options to that game. Pretty sure I will realize some of these suggestions in the future but at the moment I will make a break since my son will be born with the next 2 weeks

Quote:

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Does not work on NTSC. Shame. Works on PAL but it has a large gap at the bottom of the screen. Do all the IK+ games require PAL and don't use the whole screen????

Hi - thanks for giving it a try. Does the menu already fail? Concerning the IK+ and PAL/NTSC functionality unfortunately I have no idea - and can not test it on real hardware, but try out the different versions from here:
http://www.thegamearchives.com

It would be nice if you find a version which works on NTSC and PAL - if that exists - then I would patch that version as well if you like.

But I think the WHDLOAD patch will be released earlier than I find a solution for this problem...

TjLaZer · 31 March 2013, 18:19

I tried another IK+ and it does indeed work well on NTSC so it is possible.

edit
tried the one from this link:
http://trinity.geforce.nl/~mb/files/..._collection/i/

Has Return of the Jedi and Driller on it too. It's the single filed version, also called "International Karate + (1988)(System 3).adf"

24 March 2013, 21:21	#1
Herpes ... aka Amix73 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Posts: 87	Ik+(++) Hi, there! I don't know whether it belongs here - so please dear MOD feel free to move this post - thanks. Recently I got seriously pissed off by my favorite party game IK+ since the actual games is every second round disrupted by the annoying ball-deflection or bomb-kicking game. Since I did not find a ready solution I had to do it myself and debugged with Winuae and patched the game. Then I wrote a little boring intro and put the stuff together and nothing worked I changed to Stingrays startup-code which really is great and will be used from now on all the time I need it - but still had troubles with the loader. Fortunately I found a small binary, and used the crunched bin to include it at the end of my intro - had to do some mem-"relocation" to make it work and appply the patch after decrunching with also 512KB (thanks Stingray again, for answering my questions). Anyway the game is much more fun now without the disruptions. Hope you also enjoy it. If you find some bugs please tell me - it took me a while to see that after the patch the levels were counting wrong so I had to check that again, and afterwards with 512KB I noticed that the fighters were not reset after entering the next level - so possible there is still something although it looked quite ok - but I have to admit I'm hardly able to reach level 17... Making this patch and the intro was real fun and I could learn a lot especially how to startup properly But the game code of IK+ is really a mess - but maybe that's the case with most of the games. I upped Ik+++ to the zone. Adio!

31 March 2013, 18:19	#20
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	I tried another IK+ and it does indeed work well on NTSC so it is possible. edit tried the one from this link: http://trinity.geforce.nl/~mb/files/..._collection/i/ Has Return of the Jedi and Driller on it too. It's the single filed version, also called "International Karate + (1988)(System 3).adf" Last edited by TjLaZer; 31 March 2013 at 19:54.

24 March 2013, 21:52	#2
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Nice idea, although I like those sub games.

24 March 2013, 22:29	#3
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've wanted this option for a very long time! Now, if only StingRay would write a WHDLoad patch for it...

24 March 2013, 22:33	#4
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Updating the IK+ patch and adding an option to skip the sub-games is not much of a problem, personally I like them though. IK+ has been patched by Wepl, I'll see what he says about an updated patch so either him or me will do it.

24 March 2013, 22:49	#6
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	We need a patch for 2nd player that would allow him to control those balls and bombs then

24 March 2013, 22:49	#7
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	What about a balls vs. bombs 2 player sub-game?

24 March 2013, 22:58	#8
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	If I think about that now.... no, I dont want other player to play with my balls.

24 March 2013, 23:01	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	If you put it that way... you got a point there.

24 March 2013, 23:03	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	A 3-Player patch would be nice too. Just like IK+ Gold for the C64.

25 March 2013, 13:52	#12
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Now we're onto something! I proposed similar things in a thread many moons ago too

25 March 2013, 23:39	#13
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 46 Posts: 430	+1 for 3 player patch. Maybe even a 4-player hack would be possible on the amiga?

25 March 2013, 23:56	#14
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Nice, I'll give it a go on my NTSC A500. Hope it works well!

26 March 2013, 00:58	#15
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Not sure how... I thought it only allowed 2 players, unless there is a way to take control of CPU into character?

26 March 2013, 08:30	#16
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	Good stuff this Herpes - nice to see a trainer release for 2013

26 March 2013, 11:45	#17
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Thanks for it. The subgames are really boring after some time. Just wait for WHDLoad install.

31 March 2013, 05:55	#18
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Does not work on NTSC. Shame. Works on PAL but it has a large gap at the bottom of the screen. Do all the IK+ games require PAL and don't use the whole screen????

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