Elf Mania original adf:s

macce2 · 07 June 2006, 22:39

Help please ! I need the original adf:s of Elf Mania. Man, it's cool!
Anyone there who has them ?
Thanks in advance.

Galahad/FLT · 07 June 2006, 23:53

You cannot ADF the original Elfmania as both disks are MFM copy protected

macce2 · 08 June 2006, 01:00

Aha, thats interesting.. what exactly is that MFM copy protection ?
Anyway, does anyone know if there's any kind of cracked version adfsof Elf Mania where highscores can be saved ? Or was that possible even with the original disks..?

musashi5150 · 08 June 2006, 10:41

MFM is where the disk uses a custom format that can't be copied without knowing details of how it is layed out. So you can't make ADFs of it without cracking the game.

A cracked version of Elfmania is easy to come by, there is one on planetemu.net (but of course you knew that because you have read the FAQ haven't you?

) I've no idea if it saves highscores or not - but I'd guess it doesn't.

If you desparately want highscore saving then you would have to use the WHDLoad version instead.

CFou! · 08 June 2006, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

MFM is where the disk uses a custom format that can't be copied without knowing details of how it is layed out. So you can't make ADFs of it without cracking the game.

A cracked version of Elfmania is easy to come by, there is one on planetemu.net (but of course you knew that because you have read the FAQ haven't you?

) I've no idea if it saves highscores or not - but I'd guess it doesn't.

If you desparately want highscore saving then you would have to use the WHDLoad version instead.

in my memory, highscores are not saved on original game,
but i can look documentation if you want....

blade002 · 08 June 2006, 15:35

Or you can find them at Emuasylum.
http://www.emuasylum.com/index.php?page=roms

Retro-Nerd · 08 June 2006, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002

Or you can find them at Emuasylum.
http://www.emuasylum.com/index.php?page=roms

He is looking for the original disks, not a crack.

Arnie · 08 June 2006, 20:06

Pack #11 of Ipf disk images ( Caps) has Elf & Elfmania.

Retro-Nerd · 08 June 2006, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Pack #11 of Ipf disk images ( Caps) has Elf & Elfmania.

He is searching for the ADF's not IPF's.

Arnie · 08 June 2006, 20:15

Retro nerd, are you Macce2`s P.A by any chance ??....Let the guy answer for himself!!!..........

Retro-Nerd · 08 June 2006, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Retro nerd, are you Macce2`s P.A by any chance ??....Let the guy answer for himself!!!..........

No, but read his topic? He is not searching for a crack or a IPF! It is so difficult to read carefully?

musashi5150 · 08 June 2006, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

It is so difficult to read carefully?

Obviously it is for you...

We've already said he ISN'T going to find a non-cracked ADF and if he doesn't want an IPF then he is screwed. But, he said he WOULD take a cracked version if it saved highscores... but if he doesn't want WHDLoad then he's shit out of luck with that too

Arnie · 09 June 2006, 19:54

I`ve also noted that some IPF games can be converted to ADF. Is this possible with Elf or Elfmania

DamienD · 09 June 2006, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

I`ve also noted that some IPF games can be converted to ADF. Is this possible with Elf or Elfmania

Shite, I hope you didn't get that impression from my testing

Another World + Flashback were very rare exceptions as they do not have protection, weird track sizes or file systems

I guess you could always try...

musashi5150 · 09 June 2006, 21:16

If WWarp can understand the MFM then it should be possible to create DISKS on a real Amiga - but they still won't be ADF-friendly I'm afraid.

Galahad/FLT · 09 June 2006, 23:44

WWarp will not correctly write back to disk a Copylock track that exists on Elf

WWarp will not correctly write back to disk the MFM on Elfmania.

I think this thread is somewhat exhausted, the question has been answered.

musashi5150 · 10 June 2006, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

WWarp will not correctly write back to disk the MFM on Elfmania.

Fair enough, I trust your judgement on this Galahad. But for the other guys future reference you can sometimes get lucky on a game and WWarp will write back the MFM tracks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

I think this thread is somewhat exhausted, the question has been answered.

Indeed

macce2 · 10 June 2006, 15:24

Hi all, and thanks for the many answers

.
I think I have to play with the cracked floppy version. It doesn't in my opinion make much sense to play hd-installed (whd-) version, if you have to keep one floppy in disk drive anyway.. ;-)
So, I prefer playing floppy version.
If highscores are not saved in the original version, then that's it.

However, I think I'm quite interested in the CAPS project and IPFs and all kinds of strange formats, and will have to get more information.
Is there any (easy?) way of transferring IPF files to ADFs ?
What does that process require?

Cheers

Retro-Nerd · 10 June 2006, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by macce2

Hi all, and thanks for the many answers

.
I think I have to play with the cracked floppy version. It doesn't in my opinion make much sense to play hd-installed (whd-) version, if you have to keep one floppy in disk drive anyway.. ;-)
So, I prefer playing floppy version.
If highscores are not saved in the original version, then that's it.

However, I think I'm quite interested in the CAPS project and IPFs and all kinds of strange formats, and will have to get more information.
Is there any (easy?) way of transferring IPF files to ADFs ?
What does that process require?

Cheers

You can try to copy all unprotected IPFs with X-Copy under WinUAE. You cannot write back the protected games at the moment. Check the SPS site for more infos.

http://www.softpres.org/

Retro-Nerd · 10 June 2006, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by macce2

Hi all, and thanks for the many answers

.
I think I have to play with the cracked floppy version. It doesn't in my opinion make much sense to play hd-installed (whd-) version, if you have to keep one floppy in disk drive anyway.. ;-)
So, I prefer playing floppy version.
If highscores are not saved in the original version, then that's it.

However, I think I'm quite interested in the CAPS project and IPFs and all kinds of strange formats, and will have to get more information.
Is there any (easy?) way of transferring IPF files to ADFs ?
What does that process require?

Cheers

You can try to copy all unprotected IPFs with X-Copy under WinUAE. You cannot write back/tranfering all IPF games at the moment. Check the SPS site for more infos.

http://www.softpres.org/

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07 June 2006, 22:39	#1
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Elf Mania original adf:s Help please ! I need the original adf:s of Elf Mania. Man, it's cool! Anyone there who has them ? Thanks in advance.

07 June 2006, 23:53	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	You cannot ADF the original Elfmania as both disks are MFM copy protected

08 June 2006, 01:00	#3
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Aha, thats interesting.. what exactly is that MFM copy protection ? Anyway, does anyone know if there's any kind of cracked version adfsof Elf Mania where highscores can be saved ? Or was that possible even with the original disks..?

08 June 2006, 10:41	#4
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 43 Posts: 2,351	MFM is where the disk uses a custom format that can't be copied without knowing details of how it is layed out. So you can't make ADFs of it without cracking the game. A cracked version of Elfmania is easy to come by, there is one on planetemu.net (but of course you knew that because you have read the FAQ haven't you? ) I've no idea if it saves highscores or not - but I'd guess it doesn't. If you desparately want highscore saving then you would have to use the WHDLoad version instead.

08 June 2006, 15:35	#6
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Or you can find them at Emuasylum. http://www.emuasylum.com/index.php?page=roms

08 June 2006, 20:06	#8
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Pack #11 of Ipf disk images ( Caps) has Elf & Elfmania.

08 June 2006, 20:15	#10
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Retro nerd, are you Macce2`s P.A by any chance ??....Let the guy answer for himself!!!..........

09 June 2006, 19:54	#13
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I`ve also noted that some IPF games can be converted to ADF. Is this possible with Elf or Elfmania

09 June 2006, 21:16	#15
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 43 Posts: 2,351	If WWarp can understand the MFM then it should be possible to create DISKS on a real Amiga - but they still won't be ADF-friendly I'm afraid.

09 June 2006, 23:44	#16
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	WWarp will not correctly write back to disk a Copylock track that exists on Elf WWarp will not correctly write back to disk the MFM on Elfmania. I think this thread is somewhat exhausted, the question has been answered.

10 June 2006, 15:24	#18
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Hi all, and thanks for the many answers . I think I have to play with the cracked floppy version. It doesn't in my opinion make much sense to play hd-installed (whd-) version, if you have to keep one floppy in disk drive anyway.. ;-) So, I prefer playing floppy version. If highscores are not saved in the original version, then that's it. However, I think I'm quite interested in the CAPS project and IPFs and all kinds of strange formats, and will have to get more information. Is there any (easy?) way of transferring IPF files to ADFs ? What does that process require? Cheers

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