Winuae blue screen of death

MichelN86 · 28 December 2009, 23:40

Sometimes i get the bluescreen of death screen after launching a cd32 game in winuae. I use the latest version, i tested it on my laptop and pc and on both machines i got 2 times the bsod.

NewDeli · 28 December 2009, 23:46

Is it happening while WinUAE is accessing the CD32 game through the DVD Rom device ? May be you could try loading the next game from an ISO instead. (of course, purpose of this is to determine if it hasn't something to do with access method setting in misc. panel)

FOL · 29 December 2009, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thegoldenman

Sometimes i get the bluescreen of death screen after launching a cd32 game in winuae. I use the latest version, i tested it on my laptop and pc and on both machines i got 2 times the bsod.

Whats the spec of both machines?

Maybe its a driver problem, have you tried an earlier version?

Retro-Nerd · 29 December 2009, 00:52

The Blue Screen error message would help.

FOL · 29 December 2009, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

The Blue Screen error message would help.

Aye that would help to.

lilalurl · 29 December 2009, 03:23

Are you using ASPI?

Although a bit different, your issue reminded me of this:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35668

MichelN86 · 29 December 2009, 09:11

Probleemhandtekening:
Gebeurtenisnaam van probleem: BlueScreen
Versie van besturingssysteem: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Landinstelling-id: 1043

Aanvullende informatie over dit probleem:
BCCode: 50
BCP1: FFFFF900C2290048
BCP2: 0000000000000000
BCP3: FFFFF96000222AC6
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Bestanden die helpen bij het beschrijven van het probleem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\122809-19640-01.dmp
C:\Users\*****\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-44054-0.sysdata.xml

Lees de onlineprivacyverklaring:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...8&clcid=0x0413

Als de onlineprivacyverklaring niet beschikbaar is, lees dan onze offlineprivacyverklaring:
C:\Windows\system32\nl-NL\erofflps.txt

Toni Wilen · 29 December 2009, 09:50

Cause of bluscreen is always driver or hardware bug.

EDIT: there should be device driver name in bottom part of bluescreen.

MichelN86 · 29 December 2009, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

EDIT: there should be device driver name in bottom part of bluescreen.

Will check it out when i get it again, i didnt really look at it.

MichelN86 · 03 January 2010, 22:48

I also got a BSOD when launching cool spot (spot) (adf format), i couldnt take a closer look at the screen because it whas going away quit fast.

Is winuae supporting windows 7 fully ? both 32 and 64 bit have bsod sometimes.

FOL · 03 January 2010, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thegoldenman

I also got a BSOD when launching cool spot (spot) (adf format), i couldnt take a closer look at the screen because it whas going away quit fast.

Is winuae supporting windows 7 fully ? both 32 and 64 bit have bsod sometimes.

Im on Win7 32Bit using the latest nvidia drivers and all is working flawless.

MichelN86 · 03 January 2010, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Im on Win7 32Bit using the latest nvidia drivers and all is working flawless.

Hmmmm i dont think this is related to my ati card(s)

, anyway can you provide me the best settings to use (for the amiga games).

FOL · 04 January 2010, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thegoldenman

Hmmmm i dont think this is related to my ati card(s)

, anyway can you provide me the best settings to use (for the amiga games).

My Laptop is running same setup but with ATI card and that is running flawless too.

As for settings, im using a custom setup as I have AmigaSYS installed, and using WHDLoad for games via Killa Gorrila's WHDLoad Packs.

If I need to run an ADF, I just use the quick start, and use A500 config. Then screen res to my monitors highest and D3D filter to fill screen.
Never failed me yet. I did have a problem when going full screen, but toni fixed that months ago.

MichelN86 · 04 January 2010, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

My Laptop is running same setup but with ATI card and that is running flawless too.

As for settings, im using a custom setup as I have AmigaSYS installed, and using WHDLoad for games via Killa Gorrila's WHDLoad Packs.

If I need to run an ADF, I just use the quick start, and use A500 config. Then screen res to my monitors highest and D3D filter to fill screen.
Never failed me yet. I did have a problem when going full screen, but toni fixed that months ago.

I use null filter and automatic scaling, maybe this is wrong. Also i never used AmigaSYS or WHDLoad (dont even know how to use WHDLoad).

PC: ATI Radeon 4870 512MB
Laptop: ATI Mobile Radeon x1600

gimbal · 04 January 2010, 13:15

can you run a current gen PC game (like Crysis or whatever) without any problems? BSOD can be anything from a driver problem (not unlikely with ATI) or something silly like a memory module that is not plugged in properly. I also got BSODs from a faulty harddrive for that matter.

Fact of the matter is that a BSOD is NEVER an application problem, no matter what people like to believe. The BSOD is caused in logic that is closest to the kernel (as there faults are critical enough to halt execution), which is usually a driver.

Toni Wilen · 04 January 2010, 13:39

It is "guaranteed" to be some cd/dvd related driver if it happens only in CD32 mode or if uaescsi.device is enabled.

Download imgburn (freeware) and check Tools/Filter Driver Load Order for list of installed (possibly useless) drivers.

You can also attach the kernel dump file (or email it). It should show the problem if you aren't interested in capturing the bluescreen text manually

MichelN86 · 04 January 2010, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

can you run a current gen PC game (like Crysis or whatever) without any problems? BSOD can be anything from a driver problem (not unlikely with ATI) or something silly like a memory module that is not plugged in properly. I also got BSODs from a faulty harddrive for that matter.

Fact of the matter is that a BSOD is NEVER an application problem, no matter what people like to believe. The BSOD is caused in logic that is closest to the kernel (as there faults are critical enough to halt execution), which is usually a driver.

I never had 1 single BSOD in 4 years of time (running crysis, crysis warhead etc on my pc), my laptop on the other hand has a low video card and cant run crysis. But also my laptop never had BSOD. It's the emulator's problem, it also happens with ADF format.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deleauvive

Most likely, you have a driver / system file corruption. If "Check System Files and chkdsk /F and cleaning all temp files (and reboot) don't do the trick, I am afraid you will have to reinstall Windows.

I am talking about 2 fresh installs of windows 7, and no its not a driver problem or such. When i run winuae a few times, open/close/open/close i get a BSOD when i reload a new game (ADF, CD32)

Toni Wilen · 04 January 2010, 17:57

Maybe you failed to read previous posts but BSOD is always driver or hardware problem.

If driver sucks so much it crashes when asked to do something that no other program does = it is broken.

It is always the usual case, one program causing BSOD = it "obviously" must be bug in that program. See any game forum and you'll see the exact same "bug" reports everywhere when the real problem is bad drivers or overheating cpu or gpu..

MichelN86 · 04 January 2010, 17:59

Toni, i posted the BSOD dumps....maybe usefull.

Anyway i never got BSOD's with other games/programs etc i use.....only with winuae (amiga forever)

Toni Wilen · 04 January 2010, 18:30

Even when using plain winuae (without af) in windowed mode?

(checking dumps soon)

28 December 2009, 23:40	#1
MichelN86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 44	Winuae blue screen of death Sometimes i get the bluescreen of death screen after launching a cd32 game in winuae. I use the latest version, i tested it on my laptop and pc and on both machines i got 2 times the bsod.

29 December 2009, 09:11	#7
MichelN86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 44	Probleemhandtekening: Gebeurtenisnaam van probleem: BlueScreen Versie van besturingssysteem: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1 Landinstelling-id: 1043 Aanvullende informatie over dit probleem: BCCode: 50 BCP1: FFFFF900C2290048 BCP2: 0000000000000000 BCP3: FFFFF96000222AC6 BCP4: 0000000000000000 OS Version: 6_1_7600 Service Pack: 0_0 Product: 256_1 Bestanden die helpen bij het beschrijven van het probleem: C:\Windows\Minidump\122809-19640-01.dmp C:\Users\****\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-44054-0.sysdata.xml Lees de onlineprivacyverklaring: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...8&clcid=0x0413 Als de onlineprivacyverklaring niet beschikbaar is, lees dan onze offlineprivacyverklaring: C:\Windows\system32\nl-NL\erofflps.txt Last edited by MichelN86; 29 December 2009 at 09:16.*

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28 December 2009, 23:46	#2
NewDeli Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris / FRANCE Age: 50 Posts: 1,248	Is it happening while WinUAE is accessing the CD32 game through the DVD Rom device ? May be you could try loading the next game from an ISO instead. (of course, purpose of this is to determine if it hasn't something to do with access method setting in misc. panel)

29 December 2009, 00:52	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,458	The Blue Screen error message would help.

29 December 2009, 03:23	#6
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Are you using ASPI? Although a bit different, your issue reminded me of this: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35668

29 December 2009, 09:50	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	Cause of bluscreen is always driver or hardware bug. EDIT: there should be device driver name in bottom part of bluescreen.

03 January 2010, 22:48	#10
MichelN86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 44	I also got a BSOD when launching cool spot (spot) (adf format), i couldnt take a closer look at the screen because it whas going away quit fast. Is winuae supporting windows 7 fully ? both 32 and 64 bit have bsod sometimes.

04 January 2010, 13:15	#15
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,977	can you run a current gen PC game (like Crysis or whatever) without any problems? BSOD can be anything from a driver problem (not unlikely with ATI) or something silly like a memory module that is not plugged in properly. I also got BSODs from a faulty harddrive for that matter. Fact of the matter is that a BSOD is NEVER an application problem, no matter what people like to believe. The BSOD is caused in logic that is closest to the kernel (as there faults are critical enough to halt execution), which is usually a driver.

04 January 2010, 13:39	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	It is "guaranteed" to be some cd/dvd related driver if it happens only in CD32 mode or if uaescsi.device is enabled. Download imgburn (freeware) and check Tools/Filter Driver Load Order for list of installed (possibly useless) drivers. You can also attach the kernel dump file (or email it). It should show the problem if you aren't interested in capturing the bluescreen text manually

04 January 2010, 17:57	#18
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	Maybe you failed to read previous posts but BSOD is always driver or hardware problem. If driver sucks so much it crashes when asked to do something that no other program does = it is broken. It is always the usual case, one program causing BSOD = it "obviously" must be bug in that program. See any game forum and you'll see the exact same "bug" reports everywhere when the real problem is bad drivers or overheating cpu or gpu..

04 January 2010, 17:59	#19
MichelN86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 44	Toni, i posted the BSOD dumps....maybe usefull. Anyway i never got BSOD's with other games/programs etc i use.....only with winuae (amiga forever)

04 January 2010, 18:30	#20
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,573	Even when using plain winuae (without af) in windowed mode? (checking dumps soon)

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