Lotus 2 & 3 A1200 versions

mattsell · 08 August 2005, 01:49

I have been loking everywhere for an A1200 version of Lotus 2 and 3. All the .adf's I've found are the A500 version and the hdload version, takes ages to load and doesn't run at full speed (in game).

I know that Magnetic Fields created an A1200 version for these two games because, way back when, I bought Lotus Triolgy and sent the disks back to Gremlin to get the A1200 versions.

A1200 version of lotus 3 is something special, it runs at full speed in two player.

Please, please someone help, I don't mind ADF, copies or originals.

BippyM · 08 August 2005, 03:35

There are no 1200 specific versions of any of the Lotus games..

The disks you received may have been 1200 fixed!

Gremlin did release the Lotus Trilogy on the CD32 though again it was just the standard versions!

mattsell · 08 August 2005, 11:07

Yeah, I know they weren't AGA versions but I want the A1200 fixed versions. In game the A1200 fixed version ran the same speed in 2 player as the A500 version did in one player (i.e. no slowdown). The whdload version doesn't run at this faster speed

.

Bizarly the A500 disks work at the faster speed on a CD32 with SX-1, but don't work at all with an A1200.

Please someone help

.

Mad-Matt · 08 August 2005, 11:30

Lotus Trilogy was also released in a Disk version in which all work fine on a stock a1200 and I havent any issues with them on whdload either. Although older versions of lotus2 did have glitchy gfx in whd. lotus3 and lotus1 work great in whd.

mattsell · 08 August 2005, 23:44

Prehaps I have older verisons on whdload, or its due to your extra memory (fast ram) or accelerator card. I'll have to try another version.

Is the load speed on your whdload version really slow?

Thanks

Mad-Matt · 08 August 2005, 23:52

not at all, almost instant

mattsell · 09 August 2005, 01:07

I must have an old version then. Time to do a little internet searching me thinks!

Thanks!

mattsell · 29 August 2005, 19:46

After getting an 1240 with 16mb and trying Lotus 3 again, load times are now correct. But its still the A500 version speed, in game; the track looks like it moves backwards.

Really want the A1200 fixed version of the Lotus 3 disks, anyone please, please contact me!

SOS!

BippyM · 29 August 2005, 19:47

You'll find a lot of Amiga racing games (lotus style) look as though the track is going backwards!!

mattsell · 30 August 2005, 11:29

The A1200 fixed version was super smooth and didn't look like it was going backwards either. It was 1 Player speed in 2 player mode. The A500 version is fine in 1 player just slow in 2 player.

If someone thinks their version of WHDLoad or Lotus 3 on A1200, is the same frame rate in 2 player as 1 player. Please get in cotact.

Thanks

ImmortalA1000 · 10 October 2011, 20:16

I know what he means, so will clarify.

There was a version that ran on A1200 which was AS FAST AND SMOOTH as CD32 Lotus 3 given out for use on A1200.

This is the fix he means, also the Lotus 3 Tosec ADF doesn't work and WHDLOAD one he has is the inferior "Atari ST graphics speed" ECS version fixed not to crash NOT the one I had from contacts (which is almost as fast as Lotus II on A500). May have been without music though just SFX IIRC.

Go look at A500 and CD32 Lotus 3 on youtube if you don't believe me, it is obviously faster.

Now does anyone have this improved version for A1200 as an ADF please?

CD32 version will not load on A1200 + CD says Amiga Format and I had this on disk 15 years ago.

mai · 10 October 2011, 21:24

Quote:

Lotus III was fixed for a1200 / a4000 by Uk Divison / Ministry

I dont know, what the "Ministry" fixed version improves.
The unfixed version seems to work on an A1200 too.

Ebster · 11 October 2011, 09:27

Maybe you should try the "cache"tooltype in whdload
.

zipper · 11 October 2011, 10:00

I remember playing Lotus II on my A500/060 I needed to remove all caches except instruction cache.

12 October 2011, 13:48

Hey hey hey, what !!!?? An A1200 "fixed"'version of lotus 3 running at the same speed than in 1 player mode ??? I never heard a such of thing. If it really exists well, ... WE HAVE TO FIND IT ABSOLUTLY !!!

@mai : did you see some speed differences with the ministry version ?

mai · 12 October 2011, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollldo

@mai : did you see some speed differences with the ministry version ?

Would you like to check it for yourself?
I am again to lazy.

13 October 2011, 11:25

Haha mai, ok mate i will do this today and will report the result

. What a surprise if this version is running at full speed !!

But is the fixed version we're taling about is this file located here ?

"Lotus III - The Ultimate Challenge (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT - Crack Inc][f AGA][t +5]"

It is the version i transfered months ago to check precisely if the game could run at full speed in 2 players mode and unfortunatly, IT DOESNT. So, there is nothing to check if this is this file

.

I read indeed now that the cd32 version in "Lotus trilogy" is known to run at full spped in 2 players mode... So logical question : would it be possible to rip the cd32 version (without the cd tracks of course) like it with some other games in order to make an ADF disk ? It would be REALLY interesting !

mai · 13 October 2011, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollldo

Haha mai, ok mate i will do this today and will report the result

. What a surprise if this version is running at full speed !!

But is the fixed version we're taling about is this file located here ?

"Lotus III - The Ultimate Challenge (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT - Crack Inc][f AGA][t +5]"

No, its different version, but its probably cache fixed version too.
Uploaded to the zone

14 October 2011, 12:26

Mmmm it sounds interesting, i don't know this version so. I am going to test it on my A1200 and report the result

. Is there a disk B by the way and if not which disk B has to be used with the disk A ? Thanks a lot mai !

mai · 14 October 2011, 15:27

Anybody tried the "TLC" version, if this version has the same issue?

08 August 2005, 01:49	#1
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	Lotus 2 & 3 A1200 versions I have been loking everywhere for an A1200 version of Lotus 2 and 3. All the .adf's I've found are the A500 version and the hdload version, takes ages to load and doesn't run at full speed (in game). I know that Magnetic Fields created an A1200 version for these two games because, way back when, I bought Lotus Triolgy and sent the disks back to Gremlin to get the A1200 versions. A1200 version of lotus 3 is something special, it runs at full speed in two player. Please, please someone help, I don't mind ADF, copies or originals.

29 August 2005, 19:46	#8
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	Still no luck After getting an 1240 with 16mb and trying Lotus 3 again, load times are now correct. But its still the A500 version speed, in game; the track looks like it moves backwards. Really want the A1200 fixed version of the Lotus 3 disks, anyone please, please contact me! SOS!

13 October 2011, 11:25	#17
Vollldo Posts: n/a	Haha mai, ok mate i will do this today and will report the result . What a surprise if this version is running at full speed !! But is the fixed version we're taling about is this file located here ? "Lotus III - The Ultimate Challenge (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT - Crack Inc][f AGA][t +5]" It is the version i transfered months ago to check precisely if the game could run at full speed in 2 players mode and unfortunatly, IT DOESNT. So, there is nothing to check if this is this file . I read indeed now that the cd32 version in "Lotus trilogy" is known to run at full spped in 2 players mode... So logical question : would it be possible to rip the cd32 version (without the cd tracks of course) like it with some other games in order to make an ADF disk ? It would be REALLY interesting ! Last edited by Vollldo; 13 October 2011 at 12:00.

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08 August 2005, 03:35	#2
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	There are no 1200 specific versions of any of the Lotus games.. The disks you received may have been 1200 fixed! Gremlin did release the Lotus Trilogy on the CD32 though again it was just the standard versions!

08 August 2005, 11:07	#3
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	Yeah, I know they weren't AGA versions but I want the A1200 fixed versions. In game the A1200 fixed version ran the same speed in 2 player as the A500 version did in one player (i.e. no slowdown). The whdload version doesn't run at this faster speed . Bizarly the A500 disks work at the faster speed on a CD32 with SX-1, but don't work at all with an A1200. Please someone help .

08 August 2005, 11:30	#4
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	Lotus Trilogy was also released in a Disk version in which all work fine on a stock a1200 and I havent any issues with them on whdload either. Although older versions of lotus2 did have glitchy gfx in whd. lotus3 and lotus1 work great in whd.

08 August 2005, 23:44	#5
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	Prehaps I have older verisons on whdload, or its due to your extra memory (fast ram) or accelerator card. I'll have to try another version. Is the load speed on your whdload version really slow? Thanks

08 August 2005, 23:52	#6
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	not at all, almost instant

09 August 2005, 01:07	#7
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	I must have an old version then. Time to do a little internet searching me thinks! Thanks!

29 August 2005, 19:47	#9
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	You'll find a lot of Amiga racing games (lotus style) look as though the track is going backwards!!

30 August 2005, 11:29	#10
mattsell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wales Age: 47 Posts: 12	The A1200 fixed version was super smooth and didn't look like it was going backwards either. It was 1 Player speed in 2 player mode. The A500 version is fine in 1 player just slow in 2 player. If someone thinks their version of WHDLoad or Lotus 3 on A1200, is the same frame rate in 2 player as 1 player. Please get in cotact. Thanks

10 October 2011, 20:16	#11
ImmortalA1000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: london/england Posts: 1,347	I know what he means, so will clarify. There was a version that ran on A1200 which was AS FAST AND SMOOTH as CD32 Lotus 3 given out for use on A1200. This is the fix he means, also the Lotus 3 Tosec ADF doesn't work and WHDLOAD one he has is the inferior "Atari ST graphics speed" ECS version fixed not to crash NOT the one I had from contacts (which is almost as fast as Lotus II on A500). May have been without music though just SFX IIRC. Go look at A500 and CD32 Lotus 3 on youtube if you don't believe me, it is obviously faster. Now does anyone have this improved version for A1200 as an ADF please? CD32 version will not load on A1200 + CD says Amiga Format and I had this on disk 15 years ago.

11 October 2011, 09:27	#13
Ebster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Frankfurt / Germany Age: 48 Posts: 313	Maybe you should try the "cache"tooltype in whdload .

11 October 2011, 10:00	#14
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	I remember playing Lotus II on my A500/060 I needed to remove all caches except instruction cache.

12 October 2011, 13:48	#15
Vollldo Posts: n/a	Hey hey hey, what !!!?? An A1200 "fixed"'version of lotus 3 running at the same speed than in 1 player mode ??? I never heard a such of thing. If it really exists well, ... WE HAVE TO FIND IT ABSOLUTLY !!! @mai : did you see some speed differences with the ministry version ?

14 October 2011, 12:26	#19
Vollldo Posts: n/a	Mmmm it sounds interesting, i don't know this version so. I am going to test it on my A1200 and report the result . Is there a disk B by the way and if not which disk B has to be used with the disk A ? Thanks a lot mai !

14 October 2011, 15:27	#20
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Anybody tried the "TLC" version, if this version has the same issue?

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