English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Coders > Coders. General

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 26 July 2017, 15:02   #2001
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
Doesn't it really need an A1200 at this point to run? Though it should be an A500 game?
A500 with 1mb of chip ram.
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:25   #2002
roondar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 3,411
I would suggest that you then test all your builds on that environment (A500, 1MB chip/no fast/no slow) in WinUAE and only accept them if they actually work on that environment.

Mainly because it feels that there are some unknown differences between your UAE environment and those of others. This usually isn't a big deal, but apparently in this case it leads to some issues when testing (which may or may not have to do with amounts of memory or what kickstart version is being used).

Furthermore, developing & debugging on a machine that is bigger than the one that is your target can mean nasty surprises when you do test it on the target machine later and find you need more memory than available, or that performance is too low, etc.

Hope this can help
roondar is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:29   #2003
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
Doesn't work for me in a Amiga 500 1MB/2MB Chipram config. Tried most the compatible config, also with KS 1.3 and 3.1. Garbled graphics, freezed screen.

Only with ClassicWB it worked (A1200+2MB Chip+8MB Fastram, KS 3.1), but with many graphics error. Does it need some libraries or other stuff i didn't put on the bootable disk for plain disk testing?
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:30   #2004
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
Doesn't work for me in a Amiga 500 1MB/2MB Chipram config. Tried most the compatible config, also with KS 1.3 and 3.1. Garbled graphics, freezed screen.

Only with ClassicWB it worked (A1200+2MB Chip+8MB Fastram, KS 3.1), but with many graphics error. Does it need some libraries or other stuff i didn't put on the bootable disk for plain disk testing?
Only system libraries
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:31   #2005
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
Which files exactly? From WB 1.3?
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:33   #2006
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
Which files exactly? From WB 1.3?
Kickstart 40.69
WB 40.42
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:34   #2007
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
Yes, but which files do i need to copy on the disk?
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:36   #2008
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
Yes, but which files do i need to copy on the disk?
Just game files: audio, sfx, gfx, and .exe of course
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:39   #2009
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
So, no other files are needed? Only the ones you've provided in the Rygar.adf? Well tried that. Ok, this leads to nothing so far. Let's wait what other people find out.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:41   #2010
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
So, no other files are needed? Only the ones you've provided in the Rygar.adf? Well tried that. Ok, this leads to nothing so far. Let's wait what other people find out.
Just another try: if you can, send me a uae config to test. No hurt
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:44   #2011
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
This solves nothing. You can do it on your own. Go to the Quickstart Tab and select a system, compatibility slider most left (best compatibility). Tick the "start in quickstart mode" option. Remove the tick, if you want to add specific other settings (like ram, kickstart)
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:51   #2012
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Did it, and still work
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 15:53   #2013
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
We need real Amiga 500 user (with 1MB chipram) anyway since it doesn't work properly on A1200 hardware (i dont' have an A500 with 1MB chip yet).
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 16:38   #2014
Amiga1992
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
I will test this today on my 1MB A500. Will report later.
Amiga1992 is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 16:53   #2015
Toni Wilen
WinUAE developer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland
Age: 49
Posts: 26,514
It is not very scientific test if there is no bootable adf to guarantee identical setup. (Number of floppy drives, possible HD, random startup-sequence, whatever can cause side-effects)
Toni Wilen is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 16:56   #2016
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
Sorry, for my non so well skill about amiga os. Can someone help me with coding some kind of printf so maybe we can get comenthig?
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 17:07   #2017
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
Here are 2 bootable disk images, one with OFS/one with FFS bootblock.
Attached Files
File Type: rar RygarTest-bootable.rar (544.7 KB, 109 views)
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 17:12   #2018
Amiga1992
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
Find attached a version of the disk that is self-booting. OFS.
Also a WinUAE configuration that runs it. A500 ECS with 1.5MB RAM
Plus a minidump of when it crashed.
Attached Files
File Type: uae a500.uae (15.9 KB, 123 views)
File Type: dmp winuae_3.5.0_R_2017.07.26_11.09.31.dmp (88.9 KB, 110 views)
File Type: zip Rygar.zip (338.1 KB, 123 views)
Amiga1992 is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 17:14   #2019
sandruzzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Italy/Rome
Posts: 2,291
I'll do my best to find these bugs
sandruzzo is offline  
Old 26 July 2017, 17:17   #2020
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,441
What a strange config. FullECS and 1 Chipram + 512KB fastram? Well it works for a second then it crashes as Akira said.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
rygar? Prosonic support.Games 7 09 June 2013 14:18
two more that borrow heavily from Rygar & Black Tiger NfernalNfluence Nostalgia & memories 5 30 September 2012 18:57
SCIENCE 451-RYGAR: same disks mrodfr project.TOSEC (amiga only) 0 26 December 2006 15:38
Wordworth conversion vertigo support.Apps 5 09 December 2003 14:46

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:06.

Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.15115 seconds with 14 queries