2 winuae-versions on one partition

G.Longsword · 21 May 2007, 19:09

this is not really a prob, but something to change perhaps.
I have three different versions of winuae (compatibility-reasons) in different folders on one partition, whenever I start one version, it actualizes the paths (under settings) to the version i started before, but in my case every winuae-version-folder has his own configurations and roms-folder, so winuae 1.32 suddenly shows the paths of winue 1.43 vice versa, and i have to search or write the new paths.
Can I stop this anyhow,? i didn`t try but i think installing the versions on different partions C: ; D: ; E; f.e. wouldn`t help

thanks in advance
g.longsword

Belgarath · 21 May 2007, 19:12

Not sure what you can do about that, but er, what do you think works on older winuae ver's that doesn't work on 1.4.3?

G.Longsword · 21 May 2007, 19:21

yes,
ahm, you understood "compatibilty-reasons" wrong, i am sure everything works fine, but i prefered having at least two versions of winuae, because: I cancelled gui-startup in my wb3.1-hdd install, but if I`am going to play old A500-games its not necessary to load the HDD, but better to see the gui,
you know?

Edit: I run only a few programs/games, that certainly work on both versions

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2007, 19:28

Use Windows shortcuts + command line parameters?

G.Longsword · 21 May 2007, 19:34

"Windows shortcuts + command line parameters"

arrgh, explanation for winxp-idiots , please....what does "windows-shortcut or command line parameters" mean something on my keyboard?
sorry, i have no idea what this means..

G.Longsword · 21 May 2007, 19:48

ah yes,
shortcut and command-line parameters, i answered too fast, sry
yes they are already changed, but this doesn`t help

DamienD · 21 May 2007, 20:37

Hmmm, I actually use 2 different versions of WinUAE on the same HDD / Partition. Didn't know about the "Windows shortcuts + command line parameters" that Toni's mentioned

The way I handle this is by exporting the main registry settings for each version into a file called WinUAE_*version*_Add.reg e.g. WinUAE_1.4.1_Add.reg which looks like this:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiehet]
 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiehet\WinUAE]
"FloppyPath"=".\\Adf\\"
"KickstartPath"=".\\Rom\\"
"hdfPath"=".\\Hdf\\"
"ConfigurationPath"=".\\Configurations\\"
"ScreenshotPath"=".\\Screenshots\\"
"StatefilePath"=".\\Savestates\\"
"SaveimagePath"=".\\SaveImages\\"
"VideoPath"=".\\Videos\\"
"InputPath"=".\\Inputrecordings\\"
"Version"="WinUAE 1.4.1 (2007.03.18)"
"ROMCheckVersion"="WinUAE 1.4.1 (2007.03.18)"
"DisplayInfo"=dword:00000004
"QuickStartModel"=dword:00000000
"QuickStartConfiguration"=dword:00000000
"QuickStartCompatibility"=dword:00000001
"QuickStartMode"=dword:00000000
"xPosGUI"=dword:00000000
"yPosGUI"=dword:00000000
 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiehet\WinUAE\DetectedROMs]
"ROM25"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk I v1.50.rom"
"ROM26"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk II v2.05.rom"
"ROM27"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk II v2.12.rom"
"ROM28"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk II v2.14.rom"
"ROM29"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk III v3.09.rom"
"ROM30"=".\\Rom\\Action Replay Mk III v3.17.rom"
"ROM19"=".\\Rom\\CD32 Extended rev 40.60.rom"
"ROM18"=".\\Rom\\CD32 Kickstart v3.1 rev 40.60.rom"
"ROM20"=".\\Rom\\CDTV Extended v1.00.rom"
"ROM21"=".\\Rom\\CDTV Extended v2.30.rom"
"ROM22"=".\\Rom\\CDTV Extended v2.70.rom"
"ROM01"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.0 (A1000)(NTSC).rom"
"ROM02"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.1 (A1000)(NTSC) rev 31.34.rom"
"ROM03"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.1 (A1000)(PAL) rev 32.34.rom"
"ROM05"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.2 (A500,A1000,A2000) rev 33.180.rom"
"ROM04"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.2 (A1000) rev 33.166.rom"
"ROM06"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.3 (A500,A1000,A2000) rev 34.5.rom"
"ROM32"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v1.3 (A3000) rev 34.5.rom"
"ROM07"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v2.04 (A500+) rev 37.175.rom"
"ROM08"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v2.05 (A600) rev 37.299.rom"
"ROM09"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v2.05 (A600HD) rev 37.300.rom"
"ROM10"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v2.05 (A600HD) rev 37.350.rom"
"ROM11"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.0 (A1200) rev 39.106.rom"
"ROM12"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.0 (A4000) rev 39.106.rom"
"ROM14"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A500,A600,A2000) rev 40.63.rom"
"ROM15"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A1200) rev 40.68.rom"
"ROM16"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A4000) rev 40.68.rom"
"ROM31"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A4000)(Cloanto) rev 40.68.rom"
"ROM17"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A4000T) rev 40.70.rom"
"ROM24"=".\\Rom\\A1000 Bootstrap (64k).rom"
"ROM23"=".\\Rom\\A1000 Bootstrap (8k).rom"
"ROM13"=".\\Rom\\Kickstart v3.1 (A4000) rev 40.70.rom"

I also have a file called WinUAE_*version*_Remove.reg e.g. WinUAE_1.4.1_Remove.reg that I run before applying a different versions ..._Add.reg which looks like this:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
 
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiehet]

Anyway, I'm sure you get the idea... Works perfectly for me

Mad-Matt · 21 May 2007, 20:41

easy fix would be to not put config info in the registry and keep it local to winuae itself.

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2007, 21:46

"easy"? like rom scan results in config file?

Whats wrong with command line parameters? You can override everything in config file with command line parameters.

Multiple installations are not supported. simple.

Mad-Matt · 21 May 2007, 22:07

do you need rom scan results in registry ? no

shouldnt take you long to get it all to save in a single file in progdir: instead of the huge mess that is the registry

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

do you need rom scan results in registry ? no

shouldnt take you long to get it all to save in a single file in progdir: instead of the huge mess that is the registry

Yeah and then I get question about that weird file in "every" directory. Sorry but I use registry exactly as MS has documented and it won't change.

Mad-Matt · 21 May 2007, 22:17

whos gonna moan about a winuae.ini ?. I say let god sort em out

.

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2007, 22:18

.ini is so 1900s

Mad-Matt · 21 May 2007, 22:35

well...we could try .prefs for originality

eLowar · 21 May 2007, 22:46

Thought XML was all the rage today. But seriously, I also very much prefer file based settings (of any kind) over the registry. They're easier to separate and easier to back up. Why use the registry for anything other than data different instances actually need to share? And even then, Windows has POSIX-ish home dirs now.

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2007, 23:05

no.

added: I will follow MS guidelines, I don't care what you (or even me) think about Microsoft.

eLowar · 21 May 2007, 23:11

It's not what I think about Microsoft, it's what I think about the registry.

But fair enough. I don't really care enough to argue about it too much.

Konrad · 21 May 2007, 23:20

@GLongsword:
Tony mentioned the possibillity of using shortcuts. You can also do this:

Open your WB31-config in WinUAE, go to Misc and remove the checkmark from "Show GUI on startup". Then save the config.
Now everytime you doubleclick the WB31-config the emulation starts directly and loads the workbench. If you want to see the gui just doubleclick WinUAE

G.Longsword · 21 May 2007, 23:34

finally konrad.
thank you konrad,

I knew there is a simple solution,

Toni Wilen · 22 May 2007, 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by eLowar

It's not what I think about Microsoft, it's what I think about the registry.

But fair enough. I don't really care enough to argue about it too much.

Every Amiga user must have seen what happens when programmers don't follow guidelines

21 May 2007, 19:09	#1
G.Longsword Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holy roman Realm of German Nation Age: 46 Posts: 89	2 winuae-versions on one partition this is not really a prob, but something to change perhaps. I have three different versions of winuae (compatibility-reasons) in different folders on one partition, whenever I start one version, it actualizes the paths (under settings) to the version i started before, but in my case every winuae-version-folder has his own configurations and roms-folder, so winuae 1.32 suddenly shows the paths of winue 1.43 vice versa, and i have to search or write the new paths. Can I stop this anyhow,? i didn`t try but i think installing the versions on different partions C: ; D: ; E; f.e. wouldn`t help thanks in advance g.longsword

21 May 2007, 19:21	#3
G.Longsword Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holy roman Realm of German Nation Age: 46 Posts: 89	yes, ahm, you understood "compatibilty-reasons" wrong, i am sure everything works fine, but i prefered having at least two versions of winuae, because: I cancelled gui-startup in my wb3.1-hdd install, but if I`am going to play old A500-games its not necessary to load the HDD, but better to see the gui, you know? Edit: I run only a few programs/games, that certainly work on both versions Last edited by G.Longsword; 21 May 2007 at 19:29.

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21 May 2007, 19:12	#2
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,529	Not sure what you can do about that, but er, what do you think works on older winuae ver's that doesn't work on 1.4.3?

21 May 2007, 19:28	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,535	Use Windows shortcuts + command line parameters?

21 May 2007, 19:34	#5
G.Longsword Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holy roman Realm of German Nation Age: 46 Posts: 89	"Windows shortcuts + command line parameters" arrgh, explanation for winxp-idiots , please....what does "windows-shortcut or command line parameters" mean something on my keyboard? sorry, i have no idea what this means..

21 May 2007, 19:48	#6
G.Longsword Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holy roman Realm of German Nation Age: 46 Posts: 89	ah yes, shortcut and command-line parameters, i answered too fast, sry yes they are already changed, but this doesn`t help

21 May 2007, 20:41	#8
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,852	easy fix would be to not put config info in the registry and keep it local to winuae itself.

21 May 2007, 21:46	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,535	"easy"? like rom scan results in config file? Whats wrong with command line parameters? You can override everything in config file with command line parameters. Multiple installations are not supported. simple.

21 May 2007, 22:07	#10
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,852	do you need rom scan results in registry ? no shouldnt take you long to get it all to save in a single file in progdir: instead of the huge mess that is the registry

21 May 2007, 22:17	#12
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,852	whos gonna moan about a winuae.ini ?. I say let god sort em out .

21 May 2007, 22:18	#13
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,535	.ini is so 1900s

21 May 2007, 22:35	#14
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,852	well...we could try .prefs for originality

21 May 2007, 22:46	#15
eLowar Citizen of Elthesh Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 949	Thought XML was all the rage today. But seriously, I also very much prefer file based settings (of any kind) over the registry. They're easier to separate and easier to back up. Why use the registry for anything other than data different instances actually need to share? And even then, Windows has POSIX-ish home dirs now.

21 May 2007, 23:05	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,535	no. added: I will follow MS guidelines, I don't care what you (or even me) think about Microsoft.

21 May 2007, 23:11	#17
eLowar Citizen of Elthesh Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 949	It's not what I think about Microsoft, it's what I think about the registry. But fair enough. I don't really care enough to argue about it too much.

21 May 2007, 23:20	#18
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	@GLongsword: Tony mentioned the possibillity of using shortcuts. You can also do this: Open your WB31-config in WinUAE, go to Misc and remove the checkmark from "Show GUI on startup". Then save the config. Now everytime you doubleclick the WB31-config the emulation starts directly and loads the workbench. If you want to see the gui just doubleclick WinUAE

21 May 2007, 23:34	#19
G.Longsword Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holy roman Realm of German Nation Age: 46 Posts: 89	finally konrad. thank you konrad, I knew there is a simple solution,

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