Supercars 2 AGA - Page 8

jurassicman · 13 June 2021, 10:24

Yesterday night I played a whole Easy Championship with "in game music" enabled and I didn't have any issues. I didn't find the music very catchy, though... I mean, it is nice but, except for one or maybe two tracks, in my opinion it doesn't suit the game very well.
Overall a great job, I look forward to play Medium and Hard Championship as soon as I have some spare time.

jotd · 13 June 2021, 11:08

The tunes take some time to get used to, I must admit but they're good. They'll grow on you or ... just put the engine noise instead

New release in a few. Just adjusting some stuff like water patterns and pink car color. Also working on a non whdload version.

saimon69 · 13 June 2021, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurassicman

Yesterday night I played a whole Easy Championship with "in game music" enabled and I didn't have any issues. I didn't find the music very catchy, though... I mean, it is nice but, except for one or maybe two tracks, in my opinion it doesn't suit the game very well.
Overall a great job, I look forward to play Medium and Hard Championship as soon as I have some spare time.

Tunes were made for a different project that i tried to pitch to devs that was more on a cyberpunk/darkwave vibe, but since were sitting idle for like three years i decided this was a good place where to use them.

jotd · 15 June 2021, 23:30

small update 0.82 in the zone. Static screens look better (truecolor palette used), changed some colors in cars & water.

DanielAllsopp · 16 June 2021, 00:00

Quick question, which has always bugged me: when the race starts and the horns sounds 3 blasts, why is the third one an explosion sound effect, rather than what you would expect such as a higher note of the original blast?

Could be a car backfiring I guess?

jurassicman · 16 June 2021, 00:18

@jotd
Thanks for the update! I'll try it as soon as possible!

@saimon69
I understand that and you certainly did a great job, mate, but I didn't find them "engaging enough" for such a game. That's just my opinion, obviously, and as jotd said I can play without music or I will get used to them eventually but, maybe, it would have been better if the tunes could have been played "a bit faster". I am not a musician and I know very little about music but what I'm trying to say is that if it would be possible to increase at least the rhythm some way I think they should fit the game better. As an example, consider the original soundtrack, when a race finishes and you enter the shop the music is very captivating and gives you the adrenaline for the next race.

saimon69 · 16 June 2021, 05:53

Well, it was for an idea that was trying to pitch with no success to use fedepede04 revamped outrun engine to make a game on this style... (with more variations and an option for an happy ending of course)
[ Show youtube player ]

jotd · 16 June 2021, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielAllsopp

Quick question, which has always bugged me: when the race starts and the horns sounds 3 blasts, why is the third one an explosion sound effect, rather than what you would expect such as a higher note of the original blast?

Could be a car backfiring I guess?

Yes, that's something I also always wondered, then forgot

I suppose that's like a race pistol shot. That could be easily changed by playing the horn sound at a higher rate.

ransom1122 · 16 June 2021, 11:05

Some v0.82 gameplay

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jotd · 16 June 2021, 12:03

thanks for the video! have you noticed that the Supercars II title is now true color with a gradient? that's subtle but quite a lot of work.

Now images can use real AGA palette (but 256 colors max, of course) allowing gradients if not a lot of other colors in the image.

ransom1122 · 16 June 2021, 13:21

Not really, I was getting into the game as quick as possible and giving it a spin.

Can you show both title screens in comparison?

Phantomz · 16 June 2021, 13:36

Thank for doing this jotd.

I haven't checked it out yet so no idea what the new music tracks are like.

Maybe would have been cool if used tracks from the lotus games.

dlfrsilver · 16 June 2021, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

thanks for the video! have you noticed that the Supercars II title is now true color with a gradient? that's subtle but quite a lot of work.

Now images can use real AGA palette (but 256 colors max, of course) allowing gradients if not a lot of other colors in the image.

awesome

DDNI · 16 June 2021, 15:06

Superb! Tested on my A1200 with Blizzard1239 mkIV.
Plays great, no crashes. Text on the questions cutscenes flickers and hard to see which option is selected.
Anyone else notice the race position in game sometimes did not match the post race table. Was certain I finished second in last easy race, only to be placed last??

Great work thanks!!

jotd · 16 June 2021, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantomz

Thank for doing this jotd.

I haven't checked it out yet so no idea what the new music tracks are like.

Maybe would have been cool if used tracks from the lotus games.

done that in my SC3 remake. Actually good idea got to check the number of tracks used by the in-game tracks of Lotus 3. Using a module that uses 4 channels would sound weird because of sound effects interrupting all the time, but that could work.

You can test yourself by replacing the files "file00...file05" by other modules, as long as filesize doesn't exceed the biggest module of the list.

jotd · 16 June 2021, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Superb! Tested on my A1200 with Blizzard1239 mkIV.
Plays great, no crashes. Text on the questions cutscenes flickers and hard to see which option is selected.

Confirmed. Got to fix this.

Quote:

Anyone else notice the race position in game sometimes did not match the post race table. Was certain I finished second in last easy race, only to be placed last??

Never heard of that. Unless you're second, but you explode with max damage => last. I've played a lot the original version and quite a bit that version to test and never noticed that. Can you confirm?

DDNI · 16 June 2021, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Never heard of that. Unless you're second, but you explode with max damage => last. I've played a lot the original version and quite a bit that version to test and never noticed that. Can you confirm?

Thanks.
I was second, can't recall if I blew up. Is finishing last if you blow up at race end a game feature?

ransom1122 · 16 June 2021, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

You can test yourself by replacing the files "file00...file05" by other modules, as long as filesize doesn't exceed the biggest module of the list.

I'll be trying that out tomorrow .. Super Lotus Cars II

saimon69 · 16 June 2021, 17:38

Will need some work , lotus tracks are 4 channel though

jotd · 16 June 2021, 18:20

even the in-game lotus 3 tracks?

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DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Superb! Tested on my A1200 with Blizzard1239 mkIV. Plays great, no crashes. Text on the questions cutscenes flickers and hard to see which option is selected. Anyone else notice the race position in game sometimes did not match the post race table. Was certain I finished second in last easy race, only to be placed last?? Great work thanks!! Last edited by DDNI; 16 June 2021 at 15:27.

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13 June 2021, 10:24	#141
jurassicman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Sassari/Italy Posts: 867	Yesterday night I played a whole Easy Championship with "in game music" enabled and I didn't have any issues. I didn't find the music very catchy, though... I mean, it is nice but, except for one or maybe two tracks, in my opinion it doesn't suit the game very well. Overall a great job, I look forward to play Medium and Hard Championship as soon as I have some spare time.

13 June 2021, 11:08	#142
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	The tunes take some time to get used to, I must admit but they're good. They'll grow on you or ... just put the engine noise instead New release in a few. Just adjusting some stuff like water patterns and pink car color. Also working on a non whdload version.

15 June 2021, 23:30	#144
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	small update 0.82 in the zone. Static screens look better (truecolor palette used), changed some colors in cars & water.

16 June 2021, 00:00	#145
DanielAllsopp Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 272	Quick question, which has always bugged me: when the race starts and the horns sounds 3 blasts, why is the third one an explosion sound effect, rather than what you would expect such as a higher note of the original blast? Could be a car backfiring I guess?

16 June 2021, 00:18	#146
jurassicman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Sassari/Italy Posts: 867	@jotd Thanks for the update! I'll try it as soon as possible! @saimon69 I understand that and you certainly did a great job, mate, but I didn't find them "engaging enough" for such a game. That's just my opinion, obviously, and as jotd said I can play without music or I will get used to them eventually but, maybe, it would have been better if the tunes could have been played "a bit faster". I am not a musician and I know very little about music but what I'm trying to say is that if it would be possible to increase at least the rhythm some way I think they should fit the game better. As an example, consider the original soundtrack, when a race finishes and you enter the shop the music is very captivating and gives you the adrenaline for the next race.

16 June 2021, 05:53	#147
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Well, it was for an idea that was trying to pitch with no success to use fedepede04 revamped outrun engine to make a game on this style... (with more variations and an option for an happy ending of course) [ Show youtube player ]

16 June 2021, 11:05	#149
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Some v0.82 gameplay [ Show youtube player ]

16 June 2021, 12:03	#150
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	thanks for the video! have you noticed that the Supercars II title is now true color with a gradient? that's subtle but quite a lot of work. Now images can use real AGA palette (but 256 colors max, of course) allowing gradients if not a lot of other colors in the image.

16 June 2021, 13:21	#151
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Not really, I was getting into the game as quick as possible and giving it a spin. Can you show both title screens in comparison?

16 June 2021, 13:36	#152
Phantomz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 214	Thank for doing this jotd. I haven't checked it out yet so no idea what the new music tracks are like. Maybe would have been cool if used tracks from the lotus games.

16 June 2021, 17:38	#159
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Will need some work , lotus tracks are 4 channel though

16 June 2021, 18:20	#160
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	even the in-game lotus 3 tracks?

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