Problems using gamepad button 2

Borgy · 03 October 2018, 12:45

Hi folks,

I've recently been testing gamepads for Amiga games (Mega drive pads + PS controller) but seemingly struggling to use button 2 - it simply doesn't work.

For example, Roadkill accelerates fine when set to CD32 pad but no button can activate the rockets.

Similarly, when I activate 'Custom 1' (Whdload) in Ruff n Tumble no button allows me to jump (= no jumping possible at all).

Any ideas what might be causing this? Is it the pads? Is it the Whdload version (I have the latest one)?

Regards

-Acid- · 03 October 2018, 13:29

In Roadkill you just select joystick to use the 2nd button to fire rockets iirc

Borgy · 03 October 2018, 14:26

I did do that but unfortunately no luck...

kriz · 03 October 2018, 15:19

Maybe test with a joytest program to see if all the buttons works:

http://aminet.net/package/driver/input/joytest_CP

DanyPPC · 03 October 2018, 17:23

Which Amiga model you use ?

Don't use a MegaDrive pad on Amiga without a proper adapter/converter.

Borgy · 03 October 2018, 18:50

Made some progress...am thinking it might be a Workbench setting or driver? I switched from A1200 to A500 + ACA 500...same problem using the same game files and gamepad (although different workbench config). Then connected ACA500+ with (again) new workbench config but same pad and same game file...works fine!

Basically, I know for sure that pad and game files work. And I know that there are some workbench setups that work and some not.

Could it be a setting or driver in WB? Although its great that the A500 works it doesn't help me on my a1200 Roadkill AGA setup.

DanyPPC · 03 October 2018, 23:15

Joypad on Amiga are managed by lowlevel.library in Workbench.

Borgy · 06 October 2018, 12:30

Thanks for the tip... I replaced the non-working file with the seemingly working one. Still the same challenge unfortunately.

Any other thoughts welcome.

Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

Retro1234 · 06 October 2018, 13:09

There are some games that have problems afaik R-Type works on every setup try that.

Daedalus · 16 October 2018, 11:09

Lowlevel.library was only included with Kickstart 3.1 and up, so games that use that won't work on older systems without adding it. I'm not fully sure if that's what you mean by replacing the seemingly faulty file.

However, most games don't use it since they need to work on Kickstart 3.0 and below (and it's not needed for reading 2-button controllers), so it could potentially be a problem elsewhere. Certain patches and configurations might interfere with 2-button use since with a CD32 pad certain pins have to be configured certain ways to put it in 2-button mode. If you have things like Freewheel or similar mouse adaptor drivers installed it could cause problems.

03 October 2018, 12:45	#1
Borgy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wokingham/uk Posts: 109	Problems using gamepad button 2 Hi folks, I've recently been testing gamepads for Amiga games (Mega drive pads + PS controller) but seemingly struggling to use button 2 - it simply doesn't work. For example, Roadkill accelerates fine when set to CD32 pad but no button can activate the rockets. Similarly, when I activate 'Custom 1' (Whdload) in Ruff n Tumble no button allows me to jump (= no jumping possible at all). Any ideas what might be causing this? Is it the pads? Is it the Whdload version (I have the latest one)? Regards

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03 October 2018, 13:29	#2
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	In Roadkill you just select joystick to use the 2nd button to fire rockets iirc

03 October 2018, 14:26	#3
Borgy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wokingham/uk Posts: 109	I did do that but unfortunately no luck...

03 October 2018, 15:19	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Maybe test with a joytest program to see if all the buttons works: http://aminet.net/package/driver/input/joytest_CP

03 October 2018, 17:23	#5
DanyPPC Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 729	Which Amiga model you use ? Don't use a MegaDrive pad on Amiga without a proper adapter/converter.

03 October 2018, 18:50	#6
Borgy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wokingham/uk Posts: 109	Made some progress...am thinking it might be a Workbench setting or driver? I switched from A1200 to A500 + ACA 500...same problem using the same game files and gamepad (although different workbench config). Then connected ACA500+ with (again) new workbench config but same pad and same game file...works fine! Basically, I know for sure that pad and game files work. And I know that there are some workbench setups that work and some not. Could it be a setting or driver in WB? Although its great that the A500 works it doesn't help me on my a1200 Roadkill AGA setup.

03 October 2018, 23:15	#7
DanyPPC Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 729	Joypad on Amiga are managed by lowlevel.library in Workbench.

06 October 2018, 12:30	#8
Borgy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wokingham/uk Posts: 109	Thanks for the tip... I replaced the non-working file with the seemingly working one. Still the same challenge unfortunately. Any other thoughts welcome. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

06 October 2018, 13:09	#9
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	There are some games that have problems afaik R-Type works on every setup try that.

16 October 2018, 11:09	#10
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Lowlevel.library was only included with Kickstart 3.1 and up, so games that use that won't work on older systems without adding it. I'm not fully sure if that's what you mean by replacing the seemingly faulty file. However, most games don't use it since they need to work on Kickstart 3.0 and below (and it's not needed for reading 2-button controllers), so it could potentially be a problem elsewhere. Certain patches and configurations might interfere with 2-button use since with a CD32 pad certain pins have to be configured certain ways to put it in 2-button mode. If you have things like Freewheel or similar mouse adaptor drivers installed it could cause problems.

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