Not a dos disk in device

[spacebiscuit]

I am trying to install classic workbench 68k on a compact flash. Using WinUAE I have partitioned my compact flash and formatted it. I then created a bootable hardfile pointing to the System.adf in the downloaded classic workbench folder.

When I reboot the WinUAE I get to the start of the install process, I'm prompted for the original Workbench 3.1 disk, I enable my floppy drive DF0 point it to my Workbench3.1.adf but the emulator complains with a system request: "not a dos disk in device ff0"

This is clearly a bug, I've used the same adf file on several occasions to initialise the install, but now the emulator doesn't like the disk.

I find WinUAE to be very temperamental - seems some time things work then later they don't and I'm frequently having to close it and restart (as administrator). I'm using an A600 configuration.

Please help - thanks!

[spacebiscuit]

So I managed to get the workbench 3.1 disk to be read by moving the location on my pc of the workbench folder - why that wold make a difference I do not know.

I was able to seemingly complete the installation of classic workbench 68k, after being presented with around 10 config option I receive a confirmation of installation. But should I not have been prompted to swap the various workbench disks during the install - I wasn't and from memory I seem to remember previous installs taking longer than 60 seconds. When I attempt to reboot after removing the workbench3.1 disk all I get is an Amiga DOS prompt.

Should I also not be prompted to select the install location, how else does the installer know where to install?

This is really buggy - please help.

[Predseda]

First - I think WB3.1 installation starts by booting from Install disk, not from Workbench, doesnt it?

[Toni Wilen]

I don't think this is directly WinUAE related because it is AmigaDOS that opens that requester and "FF0" sounds really weird device name anyway. (Wrong HDF? Wrong HDF parameters?)

[spacebiscuit]

I was wanting to install this:

https://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/68k.htm

Reading between the lines, if I am not mistaken the download is an image of a working install. There is no installation as such, but rather a set of config choices which get written to the System.ADF file, I then have to re-boot with the configured System.adf and then copy the contents across to the compact flash.

Strange because the tutorial I watched doesn't mention any of this....

[chip]

Not a dos disk means the disk is not bootable

[Predseda]

Originally Posted by chip

Not a dos disk means the disk is not bootable

Not, it means it does not a standard AmigaDOS bootblock. Even NDOS disks can be bootable.

[Predseda]

Originally Posted by spacebiscuit

I was wanting to install this:

https://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/68k.htm

Reading between the lines, if I am not mistaken the download is an image of a working install. There is no installation as such, but rather a set of config choices which get written to the System.ADF file, I then have to re-boot with the configured System.adf and then copy the contents across to the compact flash.

Strange because the tutorial I watched doesn't mention any of this....

There is System.hdf, not System.adf as you said.

[chip]

So, thanks for the info !

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Predseda

Not, it means it does not a standard AmigaDOS bootblock. Even NDOS disks can be bootable.

It is debatable if a NDOS hard disk makes sense though

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by spacebiscuit

I was wanting to install this:

https://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/68k.htm

I think you are doing the procedure wrong, done thousands of installations with WinUAE and never had any problem !

This is the correct procedure to install ClassicWB:

- Copy the Workbench floppies to the Windows Desktop, or other volume
- From WinUAE -> QuickStart choose the Amiga model
- Set the right KickStart and the right RAM
- With this configuration chosen enter and start "System.hdf"
- Having done this you will be prompted to insert the various floppies
- When the installation is finished remove the floppies in the Winuae drive
- Reboot the system with "System.hdf"

For the NoDos Disk issue, one of the volumes fed to WinUAE is not a DOS disk, i.e., it was not initialized and formatted with "correct" Amiga Filesystem

[spacebiscuit]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

- With this configuration chosen enter and start "System.hdf"
- Having done this you will be prompted to insert the various floppies

When I start with the System.hdf I am not prompted for any floppies, it asks about the various options (icons, borders etc) but it seems to just update the System.hdf with version 3.1 of workbench!

The only time that I am prompted for floppies is when I insert the WB installer into the floppy, boot and start the installer manually.

[spacebiscuit]

Originally Posted by Predseda

There is System.hdf, not System.adf as you said.

Sorry I meant, HDF not ADF

[spacebiscuit]

Something which I don't understand, Classic WB 68k says it is for A600 and 3.0 ROM, I thought the A600 only had 2.05 ROM?

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by spacebiscuit

When I start with the System.hdf I am not prompted for any floppies, it asks about the various options (icons, borders etc) but it seems to just update the System.hdf with version 3.1 of workbench!

The only time that I am prompted for floppies is when I insert the WB installer into the floppy, boot and start the installer manually.

Negative, you are not starting System.hd, otherwise you would have the floppy request, see screenshot !!!

The reasons why you don't have the request may be:

- Check that on WinUAE besides System.hd, you do not have some other bootable device inserted, such as a floppy

- System.hd is not the original one but already pre-styled previously

Attach exact link of the version of ClassicWB you downloaded

Kickstart on the A600 also on the real Amiga can be replaced with Kick 3.0, the Request on A600 of Kick 3.0, is because the package includes software not supported by Kick and WB 2.05 of A600 Base

[spacebiscuit]

My hard disks - USB (compact flash formatted) and the hard disk file pointing to System.hdf



No floppies inserted



I then start the emulator and I am prompted for the Workbench 3.1 disk and then some basic options are presented



After less than 30 seconds the install is completed, I did not have to insert any of the other floppies.



If I now reboot with the same config I am booted into Workbench (source being the System.hdf). So this is actually running an update on the System.hdf and no instlaation is done on my compact flash.

Source for Classic WB 68k:

https://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/download68k.htm

[AMIGASYSTEM]

The procedure I described is only for installing the operating system on the 'System.hd' hardfile (without compact flash).

If you want to install ClassicWB on the compact flash instead, there are two solutions:

1)
- Copy the contents of "System.hd" on compact flash
- Start WinUAE with compact flash (without System.hd)
- When required install with WB 3.0 floppy

2)
Install ClassicWB on "System.hd", and then copy all contents to the compact flas
- Start WinUAE Workbench fro Compact Flash (without System.hd)

[spacebiscuit]

Thanks, I had done as described in option 2. One final question, why are my icons at the lower part of the screen outside of the main window requiring scroll bars....?

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Menu at the top, right mouse button

- Menu Workbench
- Checkmark on Backdrop

- Menu Windows
- Snapshot Windows